Me too Gopalakrishnan ; it is so simple to understand; maturity is needed for anyone to understand. OK? KR IRS 181025
On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 at 17:55, 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty < [email protected]> wrote: > If one respond it should be in understandable language. I have put the > query in simple language. > Gopalakrishnan > > On Saturday 18 October, 2025 at 05:50:00 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Immature minds always read in between the truth KR IRS 181025 > > On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 at 17:46, 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I read the lengthy *forward with highlights*. Siva and Vishnu are same. > If it is so why more than 90% Vaishnavas do not visit Lord Siva temple > where as all other Hindus and smarthas visit Lord Vishnu and Lord Siva > temples equally. > > Gopalakrishnan > > On Saturday 18 October, 2025 at 01:29:23 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > The significance siva vishnu > > shiva god meaning > > Shiva, one of the most revered gods in Hinduism, embodies both destruction > and transformation. His presence symbolizes the cycle of creation and > dissolution, a theme that resonates deeply in the practice of yoga. For > millennia, Shiva’s mythology has captivated the minds and hearts of > spiritual seekers, offering lessons on life, death, and the pursuit of > inner freedom. His role as the destroyer in the Hindu trinity is often > misunderstood, but within this destruction lies the promise of renewal—a > concept that can be transformative when applied to the yogic path.For > modern yogis and teachers, understanding Shiva not only deepens our > appreciation of his role in mythology but also enhances our connection to > yoga’s spiritual and philosophical roots. Whether it’s Shiva’s connection > to Kundalini energy, his union with Parvati, or his role as the cosmic > dancer, his stories offer profound insights that can be directly applied to > our practice both on and off the mat. > > Shiva Meaning: The Great God of Transformation > > Shiva, often referred to as the “Destroyer,” plays a central role in the > trinity of Hindu gods alongside Brahma, the creator, and Vishnu, the > preserver. But Shiva’s destruction isn’t simply an act of chaos. It’s the > process of clearing space for new beginnings. Unlike typical ideas of > destruction, Shiva’s acts serve the purpose of regeneration and renewal. In > Hindu cosmology, destruction is not a negative act but a necessary part of > life’s cycle—making way for new beginnings. This mirrors the practice of > yoga, where we aim to shed old patterns, habits, and limitations to create > space for growth and evolution. Statues often depict Shiva sitting in > meditation, embodying peace and stillness, even in his role as the > destroyer. This balance is an essential aspect of yoga, where strength and > surrender coexist. In yogic philosophy, the act of destruction, much like > in the story of Shiva, is not about loss but about transformation and the > renewal of spirit. > > > > shiva god meaning > > Unlike many deities in Hindu mythology who are born through divine > intervention or human lineage, Shiva’s birth story is unique. In many > traditions, Shiva is considered self-manifested, meaning he has no parents > and no origin point. He is eternal, representing the infinite and formless > aspect of the divine. His existence transcends time, beginning, and end—an > idea that resonates deeply with the yogic concept of oneness and universal > consciousness. Some versions of Shiva’s origin say he manifested from a > cosmic pillar of fire, symbolizing purification and the power of > transformation. This fire aspect of Shiva can be seen in yogic practices > like tapas (spiritual discipline) and pranayama (breath control), which are > designed to burn away impurities and elevate the practitioner to higher > states of consciousness. > > Shiva with Parvati: A Sacred Union > > One of Shiva’s most well-known stories is his union with Parvati, the > goddess of fertility, love, and devotion. Together, Shiva and Parvati > symbolize the balance between masculine and feminine energies, also known > as “Shiva and Shakti.” Parvati is seen as the manifestation of Shakti, or > creative energy, while Shiva represents pure consciousness. Their union > signifies the harmonious balance of creation and destruction, strength and > compassion. In yoga, this duality can be likened to the balance we seek > between effort and ease, or “sthira and sukha,” in our practice. Shiva’s > stillness and Parvati’s active energy reflect the dynamic between > meditation and movement, which is at the heart of many yoga traditions. > Their union reminds us of the importance of integrating both masculine and > feminine qualities into our practice and our lives. > > Shiva with Snake: Symbolism of Kundalini > > One of Shiva’s most iconic depictions is with a snake coiled around his > neck. The snake represents Kundalini energy, an essential concept in yoga > and Tantra. Kundalini energy rests dormant at the base of the spine, > waiting to be awakened through spiritual practice. Once activated, this > energy rises through the chakras, leading to spiritual enlightenment. > Shiva’s snake, therefore, symbolizes mastery over Kundalini energy and > complete control over the forces of the universe. In yogic practices, > awakening the Kundalini is achieved through advanced asanas, pranayama, and > meditation. Shiva’s relationship with the snake reminds us of the potential > power that lies within each of us, waiting to be awakened through > disciplined practice. > > Shivशिवाय विष्णु रूपाय शिव रूपाय विष्णवे | > > शिवस्य हृदयं विष्णुं विष्णोश्च हृदयं शिवः || > > यथा शिवमयो विष्णुरेवं विष्णुमयः शिवः | > > यथाsन्तरम् न पश्यामि तथा में स्वस्तिरायुषि| > > यथाsन्तरं न भेदा: स्यु: शिवराघवयोस्तथा|| > > सकंदपुराण २३ । ४१ : > > यथा शिवस्तथा विष्णुर्यथा विष्णुस्तथा शिव: । > > अन्तरं शिवविष्ण्वोश्र भनागपि न विद्यते ।। > > अर्थ = "जैसे शिव हैं, वैसे ही विष्णु हैं तथा जैसे विष्णु हैं, वैसे ही शिव > हैं । शिव और विष्णु में तनिक भी अंतर नहीं है।" > > Shivaaya Vishnu Roopaaya, Shiva Roopaaya Vishanave | > > Shivasya Hrudayam Vishnur, Vishnuscha Hrudayam Shivaha || > > Yatha Shivamayo Vishnuhu, Yevam Vishnu Mayaha Shivaha | > > Yathaantharam Na Paschyaami, Thatha Me Swasthi Ra Yushi || > > “As is if you find Shiva , you have found Vishnu. They are one and the > same. Until a person dont find any difference between these two, he will be > safe and long living" > > “yo vishnu bhakthivyajena, shiva bhakthichhalena vaa | > > dvestinaa shankaram vishnum, tham gruhnidvam mamanthikam || > > ~~ AGNI PURANA! > > “Bring them to me "people who hates vishnu in the name of shiva and people > who hates shiva in the name of vishnu" said yama. > > a and Vishnu: The Cosmic Dance of Preservation and Destruction > > Shiva and Vishnu are complementary deities, representing the cosmic forces > of destruction and preservation. While Shiva’s role is to dissolve the > universe, Vishnu’s is to maintain it. Together, they ensure the cycle of > creation, sustenance, and dissolution—critical principles in both Hindu > cosmology and yoga philosophy. This balance of opposing forces is crucial > in yoga, where we aim to harmonize effort and surrender, strength and > flexibility, action and stillness. Understanding the dynamic between Shiva > and Vishnu deepens our awareness of these dualities in life and in > practice, offering a more holistic approach to spirituality. > > The Significance of the Shiva Temple > > Temples dedicated to Shiva are sacred spaces where devotees come to > worship, meditate, and seek blessings. Shiva temples are often centered > around the lingam, a symbol of divine generative energy. The most famous > among them is the Kashi Vishwanath Temple in Varanasi, one of the holiest > cities in India. Other temples, such as Shiva Vishnu Temples, honor the > dual aspects of preservation and destruction by worshiping both Shiva and > Vishnu. The architecture and energy of these temples are designed to > elevate consciousness, much like the practice of yoga itself. Visiting a > Shiva temple is an act of spiritual cleansing, similar to how yogis use > asana, pranayama, and meditation to purify their minds and bodies. These > sacred spaces allow devotees to connect with the energy of Shiva, seeking > his guidance and blessings for transformation and inner peace. > > शिवाय विष्णु रूपाय शिव रूपाय विष्णवे | > > शिवस्य हृदयं विष्णुं विष्णोश्च हृदयं शिवः || > > यथा शिवमयो विष्णुरेवं विष्णुमयः शिवः | > > यथाsन्तरम् न पश्यामि तथा में स्वस्तिरायुषि| > > यथाsन्तरं न भेदा: स्यु: शिवराघवयोस्तथा|| > > सकंदपुराण २३ । ४१ : > > यथा शिवस्तथा विष्णुर्यथा विष्णुस्तथा शिव: । > > अन्तरं शिवविष्ण्वोश्र भनागपि न विद्यते ।। > > अर्थ = "जैसे शिव हैं, वैसे ही विष्णु हैं तथा जैसे विष्णु हैं, वैसे ही शिव > हैं । शिव और विष्णु में तनिक भी अंतर नहीं है।" > > Shivaaya Vishnu Roopaaya, Shiva Roopaaya Vishanave | > > Shivasya Hrudayam Vishnur, Vishnuscha Hrudayam Shivaha || > > Yatha Shivamayo Vishnuhu, Yevam Vishnu Mayaha Shivaha | > > Yathaantharam Na Paschyaami, Thatha Me Swasthi Ra Yushi || > > “As is if you find Shiva , you have found Vishnu. They are one and the > same. Until a person dont find any difference between these two, he will > be safe and long living" > > “yo vishnu bhakthivyajena, shiva bhakthichhalena vaa | > > dvestinaa shankaram vishnum, tham gruhnidvam mamanthikam || > > ~~ AGNI PURANA! > > “Bring them to me "people who hates vishnu in the name of shiva and > people who hates shiva in the name of vishnu" said yama. > > KR IRS 181025 > > On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 at 11:42, 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty < > [email protected]> wrote: > > VISHNU TEMPLES WITH PROMINENT SIVA SHRINES IN KERALA > > Southern Kerala > > Vishnu temples in Southern Kerala feature dedicated sanctums or > sub-shrines for Lord Shiva, reflecting the syncretic Hindu traditions of > the region. The following are notable examples: > > *Sree Janardhana Swamy Temple- Varkala, Trivandrum District. * > > This ancient Vishnu temple, also known as "Dakshin Kashi," is one of the > most prominent Vaishnavite shrines in India. In addition to the main deity > of Lord Vishnu, the temple complex includes smaller shrines for other > deities, including a separate sanctum for Lord Shiva. > > *Chirakkara Sri Mahavishnu Temple,Trivandrum* > > Situated on the banks of the Karamana River, this temple is unique for > having the idols of *both Lord Vishnu and Lord Shiva housed within the > same Sreekovil (sanctum sanctorum).* The deities are positioned > back-to-back inside the shrine. > > Central Kerala > > *Thriprayar Sree Rama Kshetram, Trichur District * > > While Thrissur is in central Kerala, this temple is *significant for > having a sanctum for Lord Shiva within its complex, in addition to its main > deity, Lord Rama* (an avatar of Vishnu). The temple complex also features > shrines for other deities such as Ganesha and Sastha. > > *Thirumangalam Sree Maha Vishnu Siva Temple, Trichur District * > > This ancient temple, located in Thrissur district, has *separate > sreekovils (sanctums) for the principal deities, Maha Vishnu and Shiva, > facing east*. The temple is also considered one of the 108 famous Shiva > temples in Kerala. > > *Aranmula Parthasarathy Temple, Pathanamthitta District* > > This ancient temple, located on the banks of the Pamba River, is dedicated > to Lord Krishna (an avatar of Vishnu). *A separate shrine for Lord Shiva > is located on the temple's premises. * > > > > North Kerala > > *Shree Ananthapadmanabha Swamy Temple, Kasargod* > > Located in northern Kerala, this temple is believed to be the original > seat of the deity of the Sree Padmanabhaswamy Temple in Thiruvananthapuram. > It is dedicated to Lord Mahavishnu, but the complex contains shrines for > various other deities including Siva , attracting both Vaishnava and Shaiva > devotees. > > *Thiruvangad Sree Rama Swami Temple, Thalassery, Kannur District.* > > This ancient Vishnu temple, dedicated to Lord Rama, has two separate > Shiva temples within its 10-acre complex—the Kizhakkedam and Vadakkedam. > > *Several ancient temples in Central Kerala feature both Lord Vishnu as the > primary deity and a separate sanctum dedicated to Lord Shiva*. > > This reflects the syncretic nature of Hinduism in the region, where > Vaishnavite and Shaivite traditions coexist. > > *Compiled and posted by R. 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