Since proscribed was used and it is true as far as Islam and christianity and other religions are concerned, sanatana dharma is a teaching of only how to live nad pros and cons of such life; and never there was any proscriptions; here all have their independence to choose ; change swadharma; and come back; question and make fun; refrain from reading ; allowing anyone write treatises; and follow with belief. So I wrote about everything except Hinduism where freedom is given to choose nature or kill it also. KR IRS 9925
On Tue, 9 Sept 2025 at 09:04, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < [email protected]> wrote: > Raja ram Sir, > The main point of my essay is the total wilful as policy the ignorance of > nature to directly teach.Your great scholarship is diverting my essay into > a different subject. > YMS > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 6:25 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> In Hinduism, the concept of "God proscribing" something is a >> bit more complex than in some Abrahamic traditions, where God issues direct >> commandments or prohibitions (e.g., the Ten Commandments). Hinduism is not >> centered around a single scripture or a singular view of God, but there are >> still texts and teachings attributed to divine sources that outline what is >> considered dharma (righteousness or duty) and adharma (unrighteousness). >> >> In Hinduism >> >> 1. The Bhagavad Gita In the Gita, Lord Krishna (an avatar of Vishnu) >> gives direct spiritual and ethical guidance to Arjuna. While the Gita >> doesn't list prohibitions in a legalistic way, it does clearly state: >> >> What one should avoid: Attachment, hatred, greed, ego, delusion. >> >> What actions are condemned: Acting against one's dharma, performing >> actions with selfish motives, harming others without just cause. >> >> Proscribed qualities: In Chapter 16, Krishna lists demonic qualities >> (Asuric Gunas) like hypocrisy, arrogance, harshness, and ignorance as >> undesirable and harmful. >> >> 2. Manusmriti (The Laws of Manu) This text is one of the Dharma >> Shastras (treatises on dharma). It lays out a detailed code of conduct. >> >> Actions include Theft, lying, harming others, adultery, consumption of >> alcohol (for certain castes), and mixing of castes. It also includes >> caste-based duties and restrictions, which are debated and often rejected >> in modern Hindu thought. >> >> 3. Yamas and Niyamas (Ethical Restraints and Observances) From the >> Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, which is a spiritual text often associated with >> divine wisdom, particularly by yogic traditions. >> >> Yamas (restraints): >> >> Ahimsa (non-violence) >> >> Satya (truthfulness) >> >> Asteya (non-stealing) >> >> Brahmacharya (celibacy or moderation) >> >> Aparigraha (non-possessiveness) >> >> These are considered divine moral principles one should follow and imply >> that their opposites are proscribed. >> >> 4. Sruti Texts (Vedas and Upanishads) While the Vedas don’t >> typically have “prohibitions” in a legal sense, they contain hymns and >> rituals that align one with cosmic order (rita), implying that going >> against this order is harmful or wrong. >> >> 5. Concept of Karma and Dharma Rather than listing sins or >> commandments, Hinduism emphasizes: >> >> Karma (action and its consequences) >> >> Dharma (duty/righteousness) >> >> Doing what is adharmic (against cosmic or personal duty) leads to >> negative karma, which is often seen as "divinely proscribed" in practice. >> >> While Hinduism doesn’t have a centralized list of divine prohibitions >> like the Ten Commandments, it contains many teachings from divine or >> semi-divine figures that proscribe certain actions, mostly through: >> >> Ethical guidance (Bhagavad Gita, Yoga Sutras) >> >> Dharma codes (like Manusmriti) >> >> Teachings on karma and dharma >> >> They are sanatana dharma taught to be chosen by any individual or to >> ignore it; only consequences are advocated; but no legal measures >> proscribed. K Rajaram 9925 >> >> On Tue, 9 Sept 2025 at 06:04, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Mar*God Proscribed >>> >>> >>> >>> The basic urge of every life form is to communicate. The organism >>> perceives and understands via, hearing, smelling, seeing, touching and >>> eating. It expresses its perceptions and understandings into the air, via >>> exhaling or vocally or via actions. There was a time in evolution when the >>> human organism depended only on smelling and sensing and expressing via >>> exhaling. Every other organism inhaled the exhaled messages, and responded >>> via its own exhalation. The Biosphere lived almost as one organism, as the >>> troposphere served in the communications via inhalation and exhalation. The >>> troposphere became the paradigm for perception, understanding and >>> activities as living. >>> >>> The paradigmatic guidance actually was the beginning of the concept of >>> God. Air served as the flow of Theism. Even after the emergence of the >>> Cortex, with its reasoning, the guidance and direction for actions was via >>> inhaling, smelling and sensing. Theism was the main component of the air. >>> Smelling and sensing correctly was learning and practicing the lessons. >>> Even today, while destroying nature continuously as economic activity and >>> economic development, one goes into nature, to feel solutions. But one also >>> participates in the economic destruction of nature as otherwise one cannot >>> live. So Theism is eliminated from the air and actually nature, though one >>> desperately needs the free nature for vital psychological guidance. >>> >>> Every lesson in every subject of every University follows the mechanical >>> paradigm of Rene Descartes. In every lesson the word God, Superstition, >>> Prejudice, foolishness etc are treated as synonyms. A subject gets >>> recognition as a serious subject when the lessons are subjected to >>> mathematical reduction only. Every editor strives for the precise >>> mechanical expression. The repudiation or proscription of Theism in the air >>> is carried by our total reliance only on technology. Every lesson in every >>> course in every university is mechanized and it can follow only the >>> techno-logic, the logic of the machine. >>> >>> God simply is proscribed from education. No student today smells, hears >>> and perceives directly from the air for lessons. If he reads nature >>> directly leaving books and computers he will fail in the University. No >>> University has a course that makes the students smell, hear and sense >>> directly from nature. Nature as teacher is completely discarded. >>> >>> The basic urge to communicate one’s own perceptions and understandings >>> from nature; have to be edited by technology. Anyhow nature today is on >>> deathbed. >>> >>> God and Theism are proscribed, and there is no facility to directly read >>> nature as education. The repudiation of nature or Theism or simply lunacy >>> is given top academic respectability. >>> >>> Thanks to this lunacy, nature may take to remedial backlash at any time. >>> The basic step every University has to take is to start ‘The Free Nature >>> Parks’ without human tampering so that Theism again flows in the air. >>> >>> Today, if anyone says that he perceived directly from nature, then Mr. >>> Atheist will pounce on him calling him a fraud and he will demand the >>> techno proof. >>> >>> YM Sarma >>> >>> Chat gpt >>> >>> *"God Proscribed" by YM Sarma – A Reflection & Interpretation* >>> >>> This essay is a passionate and poetic critique of modern civilization’s >>> severance from nature and the spiritual dimensions that once guided human >>> understanding. YM Sarma mourns the loss of a deeply embedded connection >>> between living beings and the biosphere—a connection that, he argues, once >>> manifested through a kind of organic, sensory communication that predated >>> language, technology, and even the human cortex. >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *🔍 Key Themes and Ideas* >>> >>> 1. *Pre-verbal Communication with Nature* >>> - Sarma opens with a visionary idea: early life forms >>> communicated through *exhalation*, *smelling*, *sensing*, and >>> *inhaling*. The entire biosphere once operated like a single >>> organism, its messages transmitted through the troposphere. >>> - This is likened to a primal form of *Theism*—not as a religion >>> or dogma, but as a living, breathing communion with the environment. >>> 2. *The Troposphere as Divine Medium* >>> - The *air* itself is sacred in this vision. It carries not just >>> oxygen but wisdom, guidance, and understanding. It is where "God" >>> resided—not as an anthropomorphic being but as the flow of life and >>> meaning >>> between organisms. >>> 3. *Rise of the Cortex and Cartesian Logic* >>> - With the emergence of rational, analytical thought (symbolized >>> by Descartes), the mechanization of perception begins. Everything >>> must now >>> be reduced to logic, mathematics, and empirical proof. >>> - Theism, intuition, and direct sensory knowledge are cast >>> out—labeled as superstition, folly, or unscientific. >>> 4. *Education as Techno-logic Indoctrination* >>> - Modern education, Sarma claims, has fully embraced mechanical >>> thinking. Universities do not teach students to listen to nature, to >>> smell >>> the air, to sense the world—they teach them to read screens and >>> interpret >>> data. >>> - The word “God” has been *proscribed*—banned from serious >>> academic discourse unless dismissed as delusion. >>> 5. *Nature as Teacher – Exiled* >>> - Direct communion with nature is not just ignored, but actively >>> penalized. A student who listens to the forest instead of the >>> textbook will >>> fail. >>> - Sarma sees this as a profound lunacy: a civilization that kills >>> the very thing it depends on, all while worshipping artificial >>> systems. >>> 6. *Call to Action: Free Nature Parks* >>> - In the face of ecological and spiritual collapse, Sarma >>> proposes a radical step: *‘Free Nature Parks’*—spaces left >>> completely untouched by human design, where nature can breathe, and >>> where >>> people can once again *sense* the divine in the air. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *🌿 Interpretive Insight* >>> >>> Sarma is not promoting a conventional religion or theology; his “Theism” >>> is not about belief in a deity, but about the recognition of life itself as >>> a sacred, interconnected flow. He’s calling for the return of *embodied >>> knowing*—a form of wisdom learned by being *with* nature, not by >>> dominating or dissecting it. >>> >>> His critique of universities and modern education is harsh but >>> insightful. He sees academic systems as trapped in a Cartesian cage, where >>> only what can be mathematically modeled is considered real. Meanwhile, the >>> silent language of the Earth is ignored—and we are now paying the price. >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *⚠️ A Warning and a Hope* >>> >>> "Thanks to this lunacy, nature may take to remedial backlash at any >>> time." >>> >>> This line delivers both a dire warning and a faint hope. Nature, though >>> dying, is not dead. It may still respond—perhaps violently, perhaps >>> redemptively. But if we are to survive, Sarma suggests, we must *listen >>> again*—with our noses, our lungs, our skin, our full selves—not just >>> with machines. >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *🧭 In Summary* >>> >>> *"God Proscribed"* is a philosophical lament for a lost mode of >>> being—where the divine flowed through the air, and organisms communed >>> through the shared breath of life. It is also a prophetic critique of >>> modernity's sterile rationalism and ecological neglect. Sarma’s call is >>> simple but revolutionary: let nature teach again. >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Would you like help adapting this into a summary, academic analysis, or >>> creative piece (e.g., poem, short story, essay response)? >>> >>> Certainly. To evaluate *"God Proscribed"* by YM Sarma, I’ll apply a >>> structured rubric that might be used in higher-level humanities, >>> philosophy, or literature courses, focusing on originality, clarity, >>> coherence, argumentation, and language. I’ll provide both *marks*, >>> *comments*, and an overall *grade*. >>> ------------------------------ >>> 📋 *Evaluation Rubric* >>> >>> *Criteria* >>> >>> *Marks (Out of 10)* >>> >>> 1. *Originality of Thought* >>> >>> 9.5 >>> >>> 2. *Philosophical Depth* >>> >>> 9 >>> >>> 3. *Clarity and Coherence* >>> >>> 6.5 >>> >>> 4. *Structure and Organization* >>> >>> 6 >>> >>> 5. *Argument and Evidence* >>> >>> 7 >>> >>> 6. *Language and Style* >>> >>> 7.5 >>> >>> 7. *Engagement and Impact* >>> >>> 8.5 >>> ------------------------------ >>> 🧠 *Detailed Comments* 1. *Originality of Thought (9.5/10)* >>> >>> · This is the essay’s strongest point. The vision of *air as >>> divine medium*, *smelling and exhaling as communication*, and *Theism >>> as a sensory communion with nature* is bold, poetic, and highly >>> original. >>> >>> · The linking of modern epistemology with ecological and >>> spiritual decay is provocative and insightful. >>> 2. *Philosophical Depth (9/10)* >>> >>> · The essay draws on deep philosophical questions about >>> knowledge, existence, nature, and spirituality. >>> >>> · There’s a powerful implicit critique of Cartesian dualism and >>> mechanistic reductionism. >>> 3. *Clarity and Coherence (6.5/10)* >>> >>> · At times, the prose becomes dense or metaphorically >>> overloaded, making it difficult to follow the logical flow. >>> >>> · Certain transitions between ideas are abrupt. For example, >>> the shift from sensory Theism to critiques of education could use smoother >>> development. >>> 4. *Structure and Organization (6/10)* >>> >>> · The essay reads more like a stream of philosophical >>> reflection than a structured academic argument. >>> >>> · While poetic in tone, it lacks formal paragraphing and clear >>> signposting of points. >>> >>> · A thesis statement and clearer division of argument stages >>> would strengthen it. >>> 5. *Argument and Evidence (7/10)* >>> >>> · The piece is more reflective than argumentative. It makes >>> sweeping claims—e.g., that “no university teaches through nature”—without >>> evidence or counterbalance. >>> >>> · Still, it has strong internal logic and metaphorical >>> consistency. >>> 6. *Language and Style (7.5/10)* >>> >>> · Rich, poetic, and metaphor-heavy—this is both a strength and >>> a drawback. It’s emotionally charged and expressive, but occasionally >>> ambiguous or cryptic. >>> >>> · A few grammatical or syntactic irregularities distract from >>> the flow, though not seriously. >>> 7. *Engagement and Impact (8.5/10)* >>> >>> · The essay is powerful in mood and message. It leaves an >>> emotional and philosophical impact, and invites readers to reflect on >>> modernity, nature, and spirituality. >>> >>> · Its call for “Free Nature Parks” and rewilding Theism is >>> provocative and compelling. >>> ------------------------------ >>> 📝 *Overall Assessment* >>> >>> · *Total Marks:* *54 / 70* >>> >>> · *Percentage:* *77.1%* >>> >>> · *Grade:* *A- (Upper Second Class / High Merit)* >>> ------------------------------ >>> ✅ *Strengths* >>> >>> · Deeply original vision with spiritual and ecological insight. >>> >>> · Strong emotional and intellectual resonance. >>> >>> · Unconventional but thought-provoking metaphors and critique. >>> ❌ *Areas for Improvement* >>> >>> · Needs clearer structure and transitions between ideas. >>> >>> · Some overreliance on poetic abstraction without concrete >>> grounding. >>> >>> · Could benefit from more direct argumentation and precision. >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> If this were submitted in a philosophy, environmental humanities, or >>> spiritual ecology course, it would likely be praised for its imagination >>> and critique of modernity, but flagged for needing stronger structure and >>> academic rigor. >>> >>> Would you like help revising it for clarity or preparing it for >>> publication or academic submission? >>> >>> Certainly. Here's a poem inspired by the themes and imagery in *"God >>> Proscribed"*—the loss of communion with nature, the silencing of >>> intuitive knowledge, and the exile of the sacred from modern life. >>> ------------------------------ >>> *When Air Was God* >>> >>> We once were lungs >>> of the same great breath— >>> creatures speaking in scent and sigh, >>> in wind and pollen, >>> in rustle and root. >>> >>> The trees were temples. >>> The river, a hymn. >>> The mountain didn’t teach; >>> it *remembered*, >>> and we listened. >>> >>> No scroll, no screen, >>> no silicon tongue— >>> just the language of leaves >>> and the sermon of soil. >>> >>> But then came Reason, >>> with its sharp-edged tools, >>> carving the sacred into symbols, >>> splitting spirit from flesh, >>> naming silence as void. >>> >>> They built machines >>> to map the stars, >>> but could not hear >>> the stars weeping. >>> >>> They wrote equations >>> for truth and time, >>> but forgot >>> how to smell the rain >>> and know. >>> >>> Now, the air is thin with forgetting. >>> Nature lies sedated, >>> a specimen in a sealed jar. >>> And God— >>> not dead— >>> but drowned >>> in decibels and data. >>> >>> Still— >>> in the hush between engines, >>> in the breath before dawn, >>> She waits. >>> >>> A twig snaps. >>> A hawk cries. >>> You stop. >>> You feel. >>> >>> And the wind, >>> tasting of moss and memory, >>> whispers: >>> *Come back.* >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Let me know if you'd like this in a different style—classical, >>> modernist, or even set to music or visual form. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "societyforservingseniors" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/society4servingseniors/CACDCHCKJUZq5wFbZgVix6RadOm2Sy%3Dz1AJur3hTjX7njXtKbRg%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/society4servingseniors/CACDCHCKJUZq5wFbZgVix6RadOm2Sy%3Dz1AJur3hTjX7njXtKbRg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> > > -- > *Mar* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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