Raja ram Sir, The main point of my essay is the total wilful as policy the ignorance of nature to directly teach.Your great scholarship is diverting my essay into a different subject. YMS
On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 6:25 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: > In Hinduism, the concept of "God proscribing" something is a > bit more complex than in some Abrahamic traditions, where God issues direct > commandments or prohibitions (e.g., the Ten Commandments). Hinduism is not > centered around a single scripture or a singular view of God, but there are > still texts and teachings attributed to divine sources that outline what is > considered dharma (righteousness or duty) and adharma (unrighteousness). > > In Hinduism > > 1. The Bhagavad Gita In the Gita, Lord Krishna (an avatar of Vishnu) > gives direct spiritual and ethical guidance to Arjuna. While the Gita > doesn't list prohibitions in a legalistic way, it does clearly state: > > What one should avoid: Attachment, hatred, greed, ego, delusion. > > What actions are condemned: Acting against one's dharma, performing > actions with selfish motives, harming others without just cause. > > Proscribed qualities: In Chapter 16, Krishna lists demonic qualities > (Asuric Gunas) like hypocrisy, arrogance, harshness, and ignorance as > undesirable and harmful. > > 2. Manusmriti (The Laws of Manu) This text is one of the Dharma > Shastras (treatises on dharma). It lays out a detailed code of conduct. > > Actions include Theft, lying, harming others, adultery, consumption of > alcohol (for certain castes), and mixing of castes. It also includes > caste-based duties and restrictions, which are debated and often rejected > in modern Hindu thought. > > 3. Yamas and Niyamas (Ethical Restraints and Observances) From the > Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, which is a spiritual text often associated with > divine wisdom, particularly by yogic traditions. > > Yamas (restraints): > > Ahimsa (non-violence) > > Satya (truthfulness) > > Asteya (non-stealing) > > Brahmacharya (celibacy or moderation) > > Aparigraha (non-possessiveness) > > These are considered divine moral principles one should follow and imply > that their opposites are proscribed. > > 4. Sruti Texts (Vedas and Upanishads) While the Vedas don’t typically > have “prohibitions” in a legal sense, they contain hymns and rituals that > align one with cosmic order (rita), implying that going against this order > is harmful or wrong. > > 5. Concept of Karma and Dharma Rather than listing sins or > commandments, Hinduism emphasizes: > > Karma (action and its consequences) > > Dharma (duty/righteousness) > > Doing what is adharmic (against cosmic or personal duty) leads to negative > karma, which is often seen as "divinely proscribed" in practice. > > While Hinduism doesn’t have a centralized list of divine prohibitions like > the Ten Commandments, it contains many teachings from divine or semi-divine > figures that proscribe certain actions, mostly through: > > Ethical guidance (Bhagavad Gita, Yoga Sutras) > > Dharma codes (like Manusmriti) > > Teachings on karma and dharma > > They are sanatana dharma taught to be chosen by any individual or to > ignore it; only consequences are advocated; but no legal measures > proscribed. K Rajaram 9925 > > On Tue, 9 Sept 2025 at 06:04, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> -- >> *Mar*God Proscribed >> >> >> >> The basic urge of every life form is to communicate. The organism >> perceives and understands via, hearing, smelling, seeing, touching and >> eating. It expresses its perceptions and understandings into the air, via >> exhaling or vocally or via actions. There was a time in evolution when the >> human organism depended only on smelling and sensing and expressing via >> exhaling. Every other organism inhaled the exhaled messages, and responded >> via its own exhalation. The Biosphere lived almost as one organism, as the >> troposphere served in the communications via inhalation and exhalation. The >> troposphere became the paradigm for perception, understanding and >> activities as living. >> >> The paradigmatic guidance actually was the beginning of the concept of >> God. Air served as the flow of Theism. Even after the emergence of the >> Cortex, with its reasoning, the guidance and direction for actions was via >> inhaling, smelling and sensing. Theism was the main component of the air. >> Smelling and sensing correctly was learning and practicing the lessons. >> Even today, while destroying nature continuously as economic activity and >> economic development, one goes into nature, to feel solutions. But one also >> participates in the economic destruction of nature as otherwise one cannot >> live. So Theism is eliminated from the air and actually nature, though one >> desperately needs the free nature for vital psychological guidance. >> >> Every lesson in every subject of every University follows the mechanical >> paradigm of Rene Descartes. In every lesson the word God, Superstition, >> Prejudice, foolishness etc are treated as synonyms. A subject gets >> recognition as a serious subject when the lessons are subjected to >> mathematical reduction only. Every editor strives for the precise >> mechanical expression. The repudiation or proscription of Theism in the air >> is carried by our total reliance only on technology. Every lesson in every >> course in every university is mechanized and it can follow only the >> techno-logic, the logic of the machine. >> >> God simply is proscribed from education. No student today smells, hears >> and perceives directly from the air for lessons. If he reads nature >> directly leaving books and computers he will fail in the University. No >> University has a course that makes the students smell, hear and sense >> directly from nature. Nature as teacher is completely discarded. >> >> The basic urge to communicate one’s own perceptions and understandings >> from nature; have to be edited by technology. Anyhow nature today is on >> deathbed. >> >> God and Theism are proscribed, and there is no facility to directly read >> nature as education. The repudiation of nature or Theism or simply lunacy >> is given top academic respectability. >> >> Thanks to this lunacy, nature may take to remedial backlash at any time. >> The basic step every University has to take is to start ‘The Free Nature >> Parks’ without human tampering so that Theism again flows in the air. >> >> Today, if anyone says that he perceived directly from nature, then Mr. >> Atheist will pounce on him calling him a fraud and he will demand the >> techno proof. >> >> YM Sarma >> >> Chat gpt >> >> *"God Proscribed" by YM Sarma – A Reflection & Interpretation* >> >> This essay is a passionate and poetic critique of modern civilization’s >> severance from nature and the spiritual dimensions that once guided human >> understanding. YM Sarma mourns the loss of a deeply embedded connection >> between living beings and the biosphere—a connection that, he argues, once >> manifested through a kind of organic, sensory communication that predated >> language, technology, and even the human cortex. >> ------------------------------ >> >> *🔍 Key Themes and Ideas* >> >> 1. *Pre-verbal Communication with Nature* >> - Sarma opens with a visionary idea: early life forms communicated >> through *exhalation*, *smelling*, *sensing*, and *inhaling*. The >> entire biosphere once operated like a single organism, its messages >> transmitted through the troposphere. >> - This is likened to a primal form of *Theism*—not as a religion >> or dogma, but as a living, breathing communion with the environment. >> 2. *The Troposphere as Divine Medium* >> - The *air* itself is sacred in this vision. It carries not just >> oxygen but wisdom, guidance, and understanding. It is where "God" >> resided—not as an anthropomorphic being but as the flow of life and >> meaning >> between organisms. >> 3. *Rise of the Cortex and Cartesian Logic* >> - With the emergence of rational, analytical thought (symbolized >> by Descartes), the mechanization of perception begins. Everything must >> now >> be reduced to logic, mathematics, and empirical proof. >> - Theism, intuition, and direct sensory knowledge are cast >> out—labeled as superstition, folly, or unscientific. >> 4. *Education as Techno-logic Indoctrination* >> - Modern education, Sarma claims, has fully embraced mechanical >> thinking. Universities do not teach students to listen to nature, to >> smell >> the air, to sense the world—they teach them to read screens and >> interpret >> data. >> - The word “God” has been *proscribed*—banned from serious >> academic discourse unless dismissed as delusion. >> 5. *Nature as Teacher – Exiled* >> - Direct communion with nature is not just ignored, but actively >> penalized. A student who listens to the forest instead of the textbook >> will >> fail. >> - Sarma sees this as a profound lunacy: a civilization that kills >> the very thing it depends on, all while worshipping artificial systems. >> 6. *Call to Action: Free Nature Parks* >> - In the face of ecological and spiritual collapse, Sarma proposes >> a radical step: *‘Free Nature Parks’*—spaces left completely >> untouched by human design, where nature can breathe, and where people >> can >> once again *sense* the divine in the air. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *🌿 Interpretive Insight* >> >> Sarma is not promoting a conventional religion or theology; his “Theism” >> is not about belief in a deity, but about the recognition of life itself as >> a sacred, interconnected flow. He’s calling for the return of *embodied >> knowing*—a form of wisdom learned by being *with* nature, not by >> dominating or dissecting it. >> >> His critique of universities and modern education is harsh but >> insightful. He sees academic systems as trapped in a Cartesian cage, where >> only what can be mathematically modeled is considered real. Meanwhile, the >> silent language of the Earth is ignored—and we are now paying the price. >> ------------------------------ >> >> *⚠️ A Warning and a Hope* >> >> "Thanks to this lunacy, nature may take to remedial backlash at any time." >> >> This line delivers both a dire warning and a faint hope. Nature, though >> dying, is not dead. It may still respond—perhaps violently, perhaps >> redemptively. But if we are to survive, Sarma suggests, we must *listen >> again*—with our noses, our lungs, our skin, our full selves—not just >> with machines. >> ------------------------------ >> >> *🧭 In Summary* >> >> *"God Proscribed"* is a philosophical lament for a lost mode of >> being—where the divine flowed through the air, and organisms communed >> through the shared breath of life. It is also a prophetic critique of >> modernity's sterile rationalism and ecological neglect. Sarma’s call is >> simple but revolutionary: let nature teach again. >> ------------------------------ >> >> Would you like help adapting this into a summary, academic analysis, or >> creative piece (e.g., poem, short story, essay response)? >> >> Certainly. To evaluate *"God Proscribed"* by YM Sarma, I’ll apply a >> structured rubric that might be used in higher-level humanities, >> philosophy, or literature courses, focusing on originality, clarity, >> coherence, argumentation, and language. I’ll provide both *marks*, >> *comments*, and an overall *grade*. >> ------------------------------ >> 📋 *Evaluation Rubric* >> >> *Criteria* >> >> *Marks (Out of 10)* >> >> 1. *Originality of Thought* >> >> 9.5 >> >> 2. *Philosophical Depth* >> >> 9 >> >> 3. *Clarity and Coherence* >> >> 6.5 >> >> 4. *Structure and Organization* >> >> 6 >> >> 5. *Argument and Evidence* >> >> 7 >> >> 6. *Language and Style* >> >> 7.5 >> >> 7. *Engagement and Impact* >> >> 8.5 >> ------------------------------ >> 🧠 *Detailed Comments* 1. *Originality of Thought (9.5/10)* >> >> · This is the essay’s strongest point. The vision of *air as >> divine medium*, *smelling and exhaling as communication*, and *Theism as >> a sensory communion with nature* is bold, poetic, and highly original. >> >> · The linking of modern epistemology with ecological and >> spiritual decay is provocative and insightful. >> 2. *Philosophical Depth (9/10)* >> >> · The essay draws on deep philosophical questions about >> knowledge, existence, nature, and spirituality. >> >> · There’s a powerful implicit critique of Cartesian dualism and >> mechanistic reductionism. >> 3. *Clarity and Coherence (6.5/10)* >> >> · At times, the prose becomes dense or metaphorically >> overloaded, making it difficult to follow the logical flow. >> >> · Certain transitions between ideas are abrupt. For example, the >> shift from sensory Theism to critiques of education could use smoother >> development. >> 4. *Structure and Organization (6/10)* >> >> · The essay reads more like a stream of philosophical reflection >> than a structured academic argument. >> >> · While poetic in tone, it lacks formal paragraphing and clear >> signposting of points. >> >> · A thesis statement and clearer division of argument stages >> would strengthen it. >> 5. *Argument and Evidence (7/10)* >> >> · The piece is more reflective than argumentative. It makes >> sweeping claims—e.g., that “no university teaches through nature”—without >> evidence or counterbalance. >> >> · Still, it has strong internal logic and metaphorical >> consistency. >> 6. *Language and Style (7.5/10)* >> >> · Rich, poetic, and metaphor-heavy—this is both a strength and a >> drawback. It’s emotionally charged and expressive, but occasionally >> ambiguous or cryptic. >> >> · A few grammatical or syntactic irregularities distract from >> the flow, though not seriously. >> 7. *Engagement and Impact (8.5/10)* >> >> · The essay is powerful in mood and message. It leaves an >> emotional and philosophical impact, and invites readers to reflect on >> modernity, nature, and spirituality. >> >> · Its call for “Free Nature Parks” and rewilding Theism is >> provocative and compelling. >> ------------------------------ >> 📝 *Overall Assessment* >> >> · *Total Marks:* *54 / 70* >> >> · *Percentage:* *77.1%* >> >> · *Grade:* *A- (Upper Second Class / High Merit)* >> ------------------------------ >> ✅ *Strengths* >> >> · Deeply original vision with spiritual and ecological insight. >> >> · Strong emotional and intellectual resonance. >> >> · Unconventional but thought-provoking metaphors and critique. >> ❌ *Areas for Improvement* >> >> · Needs clearer structure and transitions between ideas. >> >> · Some overreliance on poetic abstraction without concrete >> grounding. >> >> · Could benefit from more direct argumentation and precision. >> ------------------------------ >> >> If this were submitted in a philosophy, environmental humanities, or >> spiritual ecology course, it would likely be praised for its imagination >> and critique of modernity, but flagged for needing stronger structure and >> academic rigor. >> >> Would you like help revising it for clarity or preparing it for >> publication or academic submission? >> >> Certainly. Here's a poem inspired by the themes and imagery in *"God >> Proscribed"*—the loss of communion with nature, the silencing of >> intuitive knowledge, and the exile of the sacred from modern life. >> ------------------------------ >> *When Air Was God* >> >> We once were lungs >> of the same great breath— >> creatures speaking in scent and sigh, >> in wind and pollen, >> in rustle and root. >> >> The trees were temples. >> The river, a hymn. >> The mountain didn’t teach; >> it *remembered*, >> and we listened. >> >> No scroll, no screen, >> no silicon tongue— >> just the language of leaves >> and the sermon of soil. >> >> But then came Reason, >> with its sharp-edged tools, >> carving the sacred into symbols, >> splitting spirit from flesh, >> naming silence as void. >> >> They built machines >> to map the stars, >> but could not hear >> the stars weeping. >> >> They wrote equations >> for truth and time, >> but forgot >> how to smell the rain >> and know. >> >> Now, the air is thin with forgetting. >> Nature lies sedated, >> a specimen in a sealed jar. >> And God— >> not dead— >> but drowned >> in decibels and data. >> >> Still— >> in the hush between engines, >> in the breath before dawn, >> She waits. >> >> A twig snaps. >> A hawk cries. >> You stop. >> You feel. >> >> And the wind, >> tasting of moss and memory, >> whispers: >> *Come back.* >> ------------------------------ >> >> Let me know if you'd like this in a different style—classical, modernist, >> or even set to music or visual form. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "societyforservingseniors" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/society4servingseniors/CACDCHCKJUZq5wFbZgVix6RadOm2Sy%3Dz1AJur3hTjX7njXtKbRg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/society4servingseniors/CACDCHCKJUZq5wFbZgVix6RadOm2Sy%3Dz1AJur3hTjX7njXtKbRg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- *Mar* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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