Is it sacrifice to sit happily and write books. Next is Aga Khan Palace a Jail,there so called Jail of Gandhi? Were they physically tortured like Veer Savarkar?
On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 3:53 PM Narayanaswamy Sekar <[email protected]> wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: N Sekar <[email protected]> > Date: Sat, Aug 30, 2025, 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: [society4servingseniors] Gandhi was against Hindus as congress > To: <[email protected]>, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> > Cc: APS Mani <[email protected]>, Surendra Varma <[email protected]>, > Suryanarayana Ambadipudi <[email protected]>, indirapriyadarsini m < > [email protected]>, Inder Mohan Bhalla <[email protected]>, > Chittanandam V R <[email protected]>, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < > [email protected]>, Dr Sundar <[email protected]>, venkat raman < > [email protected]>, Ravi mahajan <[email protected]>, Venkat > Giri <[email protected]>, SRIRAMAJAYAM <[email protected]>, > Rangarajan T.N.C. <[email protected]>, Mathangi K. Kumar < > [email protected]>, Srinivasan Sridharan <[email protected]>, > Rama <[email protected]>, Sanathana group < > [email protected]>, Kerala Iyer < > [email protected]>, Satyanarayana Kunamneni <[email protected]>, > Colinjivadi Mahadevan <[email protected]>, Ravindra Kumar Bhuwalka < > [email protected]>, Seshadri Vellimedu <[email protected]> > > > Thanks. > > It was fun to read about Sardar Patel's so called sacrilege. Be that may, > any one can write anything with no regards to or for, history. > > Yes, Nehru's family " sacrificed" BUT got more than ample rewards and > plundered the Nation many times over. > > It is history that the Congress voted 13 to 0 on favor of Patel. Nobody > can dispute that. > > And the Nehru clan asks for votes based on the so called " sacrifices" of > Nehru. Well, - Sacrifice is doing something withot expecting any returns. > Obviously they don't know the word and what it means. > > M K G wrote what he wrote during the mopla rebellion ( later distorted as > freedom.struggle, to protect you inow who) where Hindus were massacred and > their women were raped - these were no " hasty generalisations". Sai Deepak > and Anand Ranganathan read what he wrote in a newspaper ( Harijan I > suppose) in a public debate on Times TV WITH NO ONE, INCLUDING THE CONGRESS > FELLOWS, OBJECTING. > > You can search in u tube. > > Not just M K G, but millions of others were subjected to harsh trarment, > if anything only M K G and Nehru escaped such harsh treatment in INDIA from > the British. > > Who could have suffered more than V O Chidamabaram PillIi? Did M K G lift > his little finger to help him? > > Vanchinathsn's wife was expecting her first child when he shot collector > Ash and committed suicide. So many others, whose sacrifices went > unnoticed, unheard and unrecognized. So nothing great about M K G. > > How many times did he gonon fast when Hindus were attacked? His sympathy > was only for one community and we live either in ignorance or denial. > > Admration for Patel BUT P M's post, AGAINST > ALL DEMOCRATIC NORMS for Nehru. > (And the great Democrat accepts that postbwoth no qualms). > > What a shame we accept that argument with no sense of justice and > fairness? > > We are not only hypocrites but also are ungrateful to millions but 2. They > are the be all and end all of all. > > No doubt the saying > "History repeats itself as men repeat their mistakes" is true. > I won't be surprised if I N D I Alliance is voted for, as we Hindus > spealize in committing hara kiri. > > " For evil to spread what is required is for Good to keep quiet". > > Ww see that here also. > > N Sekar > > > > > > > > > Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer > <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_315_SearchOrgConquer_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002039&af_sub5=C01_Email_Static_&af_ios_store_cpp=0c38e4b0-a27e-40f9-a211-f4e2de32ab91&af_android_url=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yahoo.mobile.client.android.mail&listing=search_organize_conquer> > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 1:55 PM, Indrajit Ghose > <[email protected]> wrote: > Vallavbhai Patel had very strong view on Subhas Chandra Bose. As a > treasurer of Congress, Patel did not allow Bose to work freely during his > Presidentship in 1938. Once Bose was elected for second term in 1939, it > was Patel along with Rajagopalachari and Rajendra Prasad revolted. It > became an impasse for Bose to function while Patel manuvuared Gandhi and > other erstwhile Working Committee members to expel Bose. Only Nehru > remained neutral. > > Bose was arrested immediately after demiting office, got bail, arranged a > few public meeting, again got arrested, gone for hunger strike and later > house interned for most of 1940 and escaped in January, 1941. > However, Vallavbhai, s elder brother Vittalbhai had liking for Bose in > Europe and bequeathed his wealth to Bose. This was challenged by > Vallavbhai. Ultimately Bose gave it back. But Patel remained suspicious of > Bose and his other family members. ( Bose, s are fourteen siblings ). Even > after Bose, s disappearance, possible death, all other Bose family members > were under IB observations for very very long time. > > Indrajit Ghose > > On Sat, 30 Aug, 2025, 1:14 pm Rajaram Krishnamurthy, < > [email protected]> wrote: > > This is what is known as hasty generalisation. Between sardar and Nehru > there are facts and no distinction was shown. > After Independence, he became India's first Deputy Prime Minister. On > the first anniversary of Independence, Sardar Patel was appointed as the > First Home Minister of India. He was also in charge of the States > Department and the Information and Broadcasting Ministry. Mahatma Gandhi > <https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=3768679dafddd1ea&sxsrf=AE3TifMzjcJ2REVGgQC_tJWNnVaFKnn5Xg:1756538329907&q=Mahatma+Gandhi&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwju38CZ_7GPAxVdS2wGHQUIAT0QxccNegUIgwEQAQ> > gave > the title of "Sardar" to Vallabhbhai Patel in recognition of his excellent > organizational skills during the Bardoli Satyagraha > <https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=3768679dafddd1ea&sxsrf=AE3TifMzjcJ2REVGgQC_tJWNnVaFKnn5Xg:1756538329907&q=Bardoli+Satyagraha&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwju38CZ_7GPAxVdS2wGHQUIAT0QxccNegUIgwEQAg> > of > 1928, a protest against high land taxes levied by the British on farmers in > the Bardoli region of Gujarat. The title means "chief" or "leader" in > Hindi and signifies Gandhi's admiration for Patel's leadership and success > in resolving the issue. Patel's role in organizing and leading the > farmers through this struggle showcased his strong leadership qualities, > earning him widespread respect. Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel is famous as > the "Iron Man of India" and "Unifier of India" for his crucial role in the > Indian Freedom Movement, his integration of over 560 princely states into > the Indian Union after independence, and for establishing the all-India > civil services system, which provided a stable administrative foundation > for the new democracy. He was a key leader of the Indian National > Congress, a close associate of Mahatma Gandhi, and the first Deputy Prime > Minister of India. There is a book "speeches of sardar vallabai patel" > where one may find his broadminded words bound by discipline. One shall > always remember that only one can become a PM; but he was given the > portfolio so coveted. Nehru might have been led to think erroneously due > to coteries, later but his family gave the assets to congress which is a > sacrifice. Reward is decided by a leader on various factors; Azad and so > many did act against the wishes of Gandhi. Individual judgements if given > weight as read here, then all of us must also accept that PM Modi is a > chori. There are more things on heaven and earth Horatio KR IRS 30825 > > On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 at 11:49, N Sekar <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you > > M K Gandhi's shenanigans did not stop with asking Muslims to stay back > only. > > The so called Mahatma brazenly overruled the Congess Working Committee's > (or whatever it was called then) 13 to 0 vote in favor of Sardar Patel to > be P M. He " persuaded " the Sardar to withdraw and the so called great > Democrat Nehru, who was sulking, gleefully and greedily accepted the P M' s > post. > > How an ungrateful Nehru, because he saw the Sardar as a threat, treated > the latter is history. > Patel's daughter died in penury while we all know how the Nehru clan > looted our country. > > Problem is our distorted history and even text books have hidden or > downplayed Netaji and Patel and others while singing one family's glory - > sort of " Hail to the Chief". > > M.K G did not offer legal assistance to the great V O Chidambaram, as the > latter was not his trusted, blind follower. > > Those who rever M K G should read the statement of the great patriot > Nathuram Godse in the court, defending his killing of M K G. Not that I > support the assasinstion. > But the so called great Democrat Nehru banned it as it was too truthful > for his comfort. > > M K G did not support Netaji, ostensibly because the former was not > following his so called pacifist agenda and distorted ahimsa. > Needless to say his asking the Hindu women to submit to the Mopla > atrocities on them which I have already described was so abhorrent. > > Those who defended M K G should ask their conscience whether they would > have asked their own women folk to submit themselves so. > > One has to read the letters Patel wrote to Nehru while serving as Bharat's > Home Minister to see what a great P M he would have been but for the fraud > that denied him what was legitimately his right, as he was the elected > leader. He warned Nehru, as early as 1949 not to trust the Chinese but > Nehru as usual, in his arrogance, did not heed the wise counsel but Bharat > paid a heavy price, the clan still follows that path as shown by the still > secret Agreement signed by them during the sad U P A Era. The party has not > denied signing such an agreement but would not disclose its contents, for > obvious reasons > > Still there people in this country who tho think the present avatar of > Congress as that of INC. > > Nehru's and Cingress' gift is, > Article 370 > Waqf Act > Control of Hindi temples and Hindu religious affairs only > Just to name a few. > > We are a hypocrite Nation Sir, we will mouth platitudes so we can bask in > secular glory. Forget Kashmir, forget the happenings in W Bengal, forget > the iunrestricted influx of foreigners, forget the rampant conversions. > > Hail to the one and only family. > > N Sekar > > > Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer > <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_315_SearchOrgConquer_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002039&af_sub5=C01_Email_Static_&af_ios_store_cpp=0c38e4b0-a27e-40f9-a211-f4e2de32ab91&af_android_url=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yahoo.mobile.client.android.mail&listing=search_organize_conquer> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Thatha_Patty" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CABC81ZcQeV7ELTd_85BtSHMy_yWH6GFdb3%2Bz-ZkqePyrErRGww%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CABC81ZcQeV7ELTd_85BtSHMy_yWH6GFdb3%2Bz-ZkqePyrErRGww%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- *Mar* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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