You are right. But is that possible today? KR

On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 at 09:19, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Sir,
> My main point is about the need for education where the students sense
> nature directly,not variations of the same mechanical paradigm colored by
> Rene Descartes.
> YMS
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2025 at 9:03 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The "new education pattern" is the 5+3+3+4 system introduced by India's
>> National Education Policy (NEP) 2020, replacing the traditional 10+2
>> structure. This new pattern organizes schooling into four stages: the
>> Foundational Stage (ages 3-8), the Preparatory Stage (ages 8-11), the
>> Middle Stage (ages 11-14), and the Secondary Stage (ages 14-18). Key
>> features include an emphasis on play-based learning in the early stages, no
>> rigid stream divisions in the secondary stage, and assessment reforms
>> focused on critical thinking rather than rote learning.
>>
>>  The 5+3+3+4 Structure Explained
>>
>> Foundational Stage (3 years):
>>
>> Ages 3-8. Focuses on play-based, activity-based learning, laying a strong
>> foundation for cognitive and socio-emotional development.
>>
>> Preparatory Stage (3 years):
>>
>> Ages 8-11. Emphasizes the development of literacy and numeracy skills
>> with more structured but still activity-based learning.
>>
>> Middle Stage (3 years):
>>
>> Ages 11-14. Reorients children towards more subject-oriented learning
>> across sciences, mathematics, arts, and social sciences.
>>
>> Secondary Stage (4 years):
>>
>> Ages 14-18. This stage offers greater flexibility with multidisciplinary
>> choices, eliminating rigid stream divisions and fostering critical
>> thinking.
>>
>> Age-Appropriate Learning:
>>
>> The new structure is developmentally aligned, with the foundational stage
>> focusing on early childhood care and education (ECCE).
>>
>> No Rigid Stream Divisions:
>>
>> The Secondary Stage breaks down the traditional Arts, Science, and
>> Commerce silos, allowing students to choose subjects based on their
>> interests.
>>
>> Multilingualism:
>>
>> The policy encourages the use of mother tongue or regional languages as
>> the medium of instruction up to at least Grade 5, promoting
>> multilingualism.
>>
>> Assessment Reforms:
>>
>> The system aims to move away from rote learning and high-stakes board
>> exams by introducing new assessment methods like modular exams, objective
>> and descriptive components, and census assessments in key stages.
>>
>> Holistic Development:
>>
>> The focus is on cognitive, socio-emotional, and creative development,
>> fostering critical thinking and interdisciplinary knowledge.
>>
>> 2          Traditional classroom lectures and teaching methods like rote
>> memorization are now fading into the past. New teaching methodologies are
>> emerging, or new versions of old teaching strategies are being implemented
>> into 21st-century education. Today’s educators are embracing new
>> technologies that help to engage and empower learners. Here are some of the
>> innovative approaches 21st-century educators should be familiar with to
>> equip students with the skills they need to thrive in today’s world.
>>
>> Active learning, a learning approach that encourages students to take a
>> more active role in their learning, emphasizes a student-centered
>> classroom. Students are involved in the learning process through
>> activities, discussions, and group work. Teachers give up some of the
>> control and allow students to be motivated by their interests, be part
>> of the decision-making process, as well as all other aspects of their
>> learning. An active student-centered learning approach usually results
>> in a deeper understanding of the subject matter as well as a higher
>> retention of information from students. Blending learning was and still is
>> a popular teaching technique because it integrates traditional and
>> technological teaching methods that can cater to diverse learning styles.
>> This popular approach is used in many classrooms because of its ability to
>> combine in-person learning with online resources.  The inquiry-based
>> learning model takes the traditional learning model where the teachers
>> lecture and the students listen and flip it around, so the students are the
>> ones doing the asking and the teacher guides them to find the answers they
>> are looking for. In today’s society, our workforce demands individuals
>> to be inquisitive and be able to solve complex problems. Inquiry implies a
>> need to know where students seek answers and want to find resolutions.
>> Educators can nurture these inquisitive minds so that students can carry
>> this mindset with them throughout their lives.   Cooperative learning is
>> another popular teaching method many educators use that force students to
>> interact and work with one another much more than other teaching methods.
>> Student-centered group work is known for helping students attain
>> higher-level thinking, as well as having the ability to preserve
>> information longer than if a student was working alone. Differentiated
>> instruction tailors’ instruction to cater to the unique learning style,
>> readiness, and interests of each student. This strategy involves using a
>> variety of different instructional methods to teach students the same
>> information. It also may require teachers to teach content at varying
>> levels according to individual student readiness. The primary goal of
>> differentiating instruction is to ensure that all students remain
>> actively engaged in the learning process by providing tasks that align with
>> their specific needs.  Culturally responsive teaching (CRT) is the
>> ability to relate to people not only from your own culture but to that of
>> others as well. This method aims to create an inclusive learning
>> environment that meets the needs of a diverse student population. This is
>> much more than simply knowing and understanding the background of your
>> students. It’s recognizing the values, cultural backgrounds, experiences,
>> and perspectives of students. Trauma-informed teaching is an approach that
>> recognizes and understands the effects that trauma has on a student's
>> learning and behavior. This method aims to implement strategies that
>> involve creating a safe and supportive learning environment, so students
>> will be able to heal and thrive.
>>
>> Social-Emotional Learning
>>
>> Social-emotional learning (SEL) involves teaching and developing
>> students’ self-awareness, social awareness, self-management, relationship
>> skills, and responsible decision-making skills. The goal is to focus on
>> nurturing student’s emotional intelligence and well-being and equip them
>> with the interpersonal and social skills they need to navigate their way
>> through life and be able to manage their emotions and behavior.
>> Gamification in education uses game-like features in lessons to help engage
>> students in what they are learning. Using gaming elements such as badges,
>> leveling up, awards, and earning points in learning can help motivate
>> students. A flipped classroom essentially reverses the traditional learning
>> model where students acquire knowledge at home and then apply that
>> understanding in the classroom with their peers. In this teaching
>> method, the teacher is a facilitator offering students guidance or
>> answering questions students may have from the knowledge they’ve acquired
>> at home. One of the main advantages of this approach is the flexibility
>> it offers for students to work at their own pace. Students who usually find
>> it challenging to keep up with their peers can work at their own speed then
>> come to school and be able to collaborate and learn from their classmates.
>>
>> Project-Based Learning
>>
>> Project-based learning (PBL) emphasizes using real-world, hands-on
>> learning experiences that require students to think critically,
>> problem-solve, and collaborate and communicate with others. This approach
>> is much different than a teacher-centered approach because students are
>> actively involved in all aspects of the project. This approach fosters deep
>> understanding and since it’s student-driven, students are more likely to be
>> motivated and engaged throughout the project.
>>
>> 3      1. Japan
>>
>> Japan ranks as the most educated nation in the world, with a strong
>> emphasis on education at all levels.
>>
>> The country boasts a literacy rate of nearly 100%, and its educational
>> system is known for its rigour and high standards.
>>
>> The Japanese education system is characterised by compulsory education
>> from ages 6 to 15, which includes elementary and junior high school.
>>
>> The enrolment rate for tertiary education in Japan was reported at 64.63%
>> in 2022.
>>
>> This reflects a robust commitment to higher education, with many students
>> pursuing degrees in various fields.
>>
>> The focus on STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics)
>> education is particularly pronounced, contributing to Japan’s reputation as
>> a leader in technological innovation.
>>
>> In addition to formal education, Japan emphasises moral and social
>> education, instilling values such as respect, discipline, and teamwork in
>> students.
>>
>> The country’s educational approach combines traditional values with
>> modern teaching methods, ensuring that students are well-prepared for both
>> local and global challenges.
>>
>> Monthly enrollment figures are approximately 3.5 million students
>> enrolled in universities each year.
>>
>> This translates to about 291,667 students per month entering higher
>> education institutions.
>>
>> 4           So if the education pattern needs a course correction,
>> Dravida and atheism policies by law must be put down in interest of the
>> nation. And freedom of speech under the constitution must be a limited
>> offer and not self-oriented, improvements of family (Stalin visits to
>> Germany is to procure Tirupur business so cheaply from to his relatives in
>> Germany and say there are investments; such approach must be visited with
>> one day trial and 50 years imprisonment; can we do that?) focused etc  AND
>> I SAID THERE IS  NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE POLITICIANS ONLY FROM THAT
>> ANGLE. ALL WANTS POWER AND RETENTIONS. SO EDUCATION IN INDIA IS A DAYDREAM
>> ONLY
>>
>> K RAJARAM IRS 31825
>>
>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 at 05:01, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Mar*Ridiculing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ridiculing every perception based on feeling directly nature, and
>>> converting the perception into a paradigm for understanding, is the
>>> terrible pandemic created by Cartesianism or the mechanical approach
>>> glorified as the scientific approach. The very scheme of nature as the base
>>> and fountain of education is being discounted and denigrated. Once nature
>>> was the only teacher. Enjoying the flow of natural Theism, the flow of
>>> symbiosis that connects to the internal hormonal communications of every
>>> organism, the gigantic structure of natural understanding, is dubbed as
>>> superstition.
>>>
>>> Ridiculing unfortunately has become the main feature of education. In
>>> the Universities, only few students get the top grades and the grades sheet
>>> of most students ridicules them on a permanent basis with the damning low
>>> marks or grade sheet.
>>>
>>> And there is only one way of education, the Cartesian way. Being blessed
>>> with God, in our pineal gland, and the same being denied to every other
>>> life form, we treat every life form as a machine only and studying them
>>> only as mechanical structures without feelings, emotions and emotional
>>> interactions, is the main feature of education. There is no university that
>>> has a course that deals with inter specie emotional interactions and
>>> emotional communications based on smelling, hearing, touching and sensing.
>>> And there is no course that deals with the emotional relations between
>>> humans and other organisms.
>>>
>>> There are no courses that train students in smelling and sensing.
>>> Surrender to machines the very faculties of perception and understanding,
>>> and the gradual cyborging of perception, undestanding and day to day living
>>> is now the human frenzy. Last night I saw in a TV channel that in China,
>>> they have developed a chip that can be fixed into the Brain that enables
>>> longevity up to 150 years.
>>>
>>> What sort of human we may come across say, after fifty years from now,
>>> filled with chips in the whole anatomy, creating the subject ‘Chip
>>> Coordination’ of the chips implanted into one’s body.
>>>
>>> When the chipped and equipped human meets a natural human, without any
>>> implanted chips, can we expect the chip snobbery among the chipped humans?
>>> Can the invasion of mechanization into the human anatomy be stopped? There
>>> is the prospect of every human turning into a chat gpt.
>>>
>>> How does nature interact with these mechanized, cyborged and chipped
>>> humans? The very idea of emotional communication among all organisms of the
>>> Biosphere is ridiculed today. We see the University educational Degree
>>> holders, whose education is completely based on the mechanical and
>>> Cartesian paradigm, ostracizing everyone whose education is based on the
>>> direct interaction with nature.
>>>
>>> Is there going to be war between the ‘Chip Haves’ and the ‘Chip Have
>>> Nots’?
>>>
>>> Clearly we are today seeing the mechanized extinction of nature, carried
>>> by persons educated by the Universities. This is the era of ridiculing
>>> nature.
>>>
>>> YM Sarma
>>>
>>> Chat gpt
>>>
>>> The text you've shared is a powerful, emotionally charged critique of
>>> modern education, scientific rationalism, and the trajectory of
>>> technological integration into human life. YM Sarma presents a lament over
>>> what is perceived as a systematic *ridiculing and suppression of
>>> nature, emotion, and holistic perception*, replaced by *Cartesian
>>> reductionism*, mechanical thinking, and the glorification of *technological
>>> enhancement*.
>>>
>>> Here’s a breakdown and reflection on the core themes and ideas:
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *🔍 Core Themes in the Text*
>>>
>>> *1. Cartesian Dualism and Mechanization of Knowledge*
>>>
>>> The piece criticizes Cartesianism—the philosophical approach that
>>> separates mind and body, and tends to prioritize rationality and mechanical
>>> explanation. The author argues that:
>>>
>>>    - Modern education is steeped in Cartesian logic, rejecting *direct,
>>>    emotional, and sensory engagement with nature*.
>>>    - Life is reduced to *mechanical systems*; emotions and natural
>>>    connections are considered unscientific or irrelevant.
>>>
>>> *“...treat every life form as a machine...studying them only as
>>> mechanical structures...”*
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *2. Dehumanization Through Technology*
>>>
>>> There’s deep concern over the *cyborg-like future of humans*, where:
>>>
>>>    - Chips in the brain extend life but may *sacrifice humanity*.
>>>    - Sensory and emotional intelligence is *delegated to machines*.
>>>    - The trend could lead to a *hierarchy between “chipped” and
>>>    “unchipped” humans*, resulting in alienation or even conflict.
>>>
>>> *“Can we expect the chip snobbery among the chipped humans?”*
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *3. Failure of Modern Education*
>>>
>>> Sarma argues that universities:
>>>
>>>    - Promote a narrow path—*Cartesian, mechanical, reductionist*.
>>>    - Do not teach students to engage with *emotions, sensory
>>>    experience, or nature*.
>>>    - Produce graduates who are cut off from *natural empathy and
>>>    organic understanding* of the world.
>>>
>>> *“There is no university that has a course that deals with inter specie
>>> emotional interactions...”*
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *4. Loss of Direct Experience and Sensory Learning*
>>>
>>> There's a nostalgic yearning for a time when *nature was the only
>>> teacher*:
>>>
>>>    - Humans learned by *sensing, feeling, smelling, touching*—engaging
>>>    all faculties in harmony with the world.
>>>    - Modern systems *ridicule* those forms of learning as
>>>    “superstition.”
>>>
>>> *“Enjoying the flow of natural Theism...is dubbed as superstition.”*
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *5. Nature as Sacred, Now Ridiculed*
>>>
>>> The critique is not just academic—it’s *spiritual and existential*. The
>>> natural world, once revered, is now viewed through the lens of *utility
>>> and control*.
>>>
>>> *“This is the era of ridiculing nature.”*
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *🧠 Reflections & Questions*
>>>
>>> This piece raises critical philosophical and ethical questions:
>>>
>>>    - *Can modern science and technology coexist with emotional,
>>>    sensory, and spiritual knowledge of nature?*
>>>    - *Is it possible to integrate education that respects both rational
>>>    inquiry and intuitive, ecological empathy?*
>>>    - *Will technological enhancement divide humanity, and if so, how do
>>>    we navigate this new form of inequality?*
>>>    - *What would it look like to create education systems that teach
>>>    sensing, smelling, and emotional intelligence in interspecies relations?*
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *💡 Potential Responses to Sarma's Concerns*
>>>
>>> If this text were to inspire action or further dialogue, one could
>>> propose:
>>>
>>>    1. *Educational Reform:*
>>>       - Introduce *eco-somatic education*, where learning happens
>>>       through bodily interaction with the environment.
>>>       - Courses on *interspecies empathy*, *biosemiotics*, or *emotional
>>>       intelligence with other life forms*.
>>>    2. *Philosophical Reconciliation:*
>>>       - Explore *post-Cartesian philosophies* (e.g., phenomenology,
>>>       deep ecology) that balance science with lived experience.
>>>    3. *Ethical Frameworks for Technology:*
>>>       - Develop guidelines around *chipping and enhancement*—to prevent
>>>       “chip snobbery” and digital class systems.
>>>    4. *Reclaiming the Sacred:*
>>>       - Reinstate *ritual, reverence, and direct experience* of nature
>>>       as part of human education and culture.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *📝 Final Thought*
>>>
>>> YM Sarma's text is a call to *re-spiritualize and re-naturalize* the
>>> human experience, to *resist the cold mechanics of a purely rationalist
>>> education*, and to *preserve the sanctity of feeling, sensing, and
>>> living in tune with nature*. Whether or not one agrees entirely, it’s
>>> an urgent reminder to ask: *What are we sacrificing in the name of
>>> progress?*
>>>
>>> Would you like help turning this into an article or essay format?
>>>
>>> Sure. I’ll evaluate the text you shared as if it were a university-level
>>> essay in a course such as *Philosophy of Science*, *Environmental
>>> Ethics*, or *Critical Theory and Technology*. I’ll assess it based on
>>> standard academic criteria: *Content & Argument*, *Structure & Clarity*,
>>> *Evidence & Support*, *Originality*, and *Style & Language*.
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 📊 *Evaluation* 1. *Content & Argument (B+)*
>>>
>>> ·         The *central argument* is strong and thought-provoking:
>>> modern, mechanistic education devalues emotional, sensory, and spiritual
>>> knowledge, resulting in alienation from nature and a dehumanizing
>>> overreliance on technology.
>>>
>>> ·         There’s *clear philosophical depth*, engaging with themes of 
>>> *Cartesian
>>> dualism*, *reductionism*, and *technological transhumanism*.
>>>
>>> ·         However, the argument could benefit from *more structure and
>>> clarity*. It’s emotionally persuasive, but at times, it reads more like
>>> a stream of consciousness than a formally organized argument.
>>>
>>> ✅ Strong philosophical position, but could be more logically structured
>>> to clarify key claims and counterarguments.
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 2. *Structure & Clarity (B)*
>>>
>>> ·         The piece lacks *traditional academic structure*: there’s no
>>> clear introduction, body, and conclusion.
>>>
>>> ·         Paragraph transitions are *abrupt*, and some ideas are
>>> introduced without sufficient development or clear connection to the thesis.
>>>
>>> ·         The essay would be stronger with *signposts* or headings to
>>> guide the reader through the progression of thought.
>>>
>>> ✅ Passionate and coherent overall, but improvement in formal structure
>>> would help convey the message more effectively.
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 3. *Evidence & Support (C+)*
>>>
>>> ·         The text is mostly *philosophical and rhetorical*. It makes
>>> many assertions (e.g. about universities, brain chips, emotional
>>> communication with animals) without *specific references* or *examples*.
>>>
>>> ·         Incorporating *sources, studies, or even
>>> historical/philosophical references* (e.g. Descartes, Heidegger, Donna
>>> Haraway) would strengthen the credibility of the critique.
>>>
>>> ✅ Strong voice, but lacks empirical or textual support that would make
>>> the critique more academically grounded.
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 4. *Originality & Insight (A-)*
>>>
>>> ·         The essay expresses *original and insightful concerns* about
>>> education, technology, and nature.
>>>
>>> ·         The idea of *"chip snobbery"* is a particularly fresh and
>>> provocative image.
>>>
>>> ·         The critique of education and emotional intelligence is
>>> timely, echoing broader critiques from *posthumanist and ecological
>>> thinkers*.
>>>
>>> ✅ One of the strongest aspects of the essay. The ideas are unique and
>>> challenge dominant paradigms.
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 5. *Style & Language (B)*
>>>
>>> ·         The prose is *rich, poetic, and passionate*, which gives the
>>> piece a strong emotional resonance.
>>>
>>> ·         However, some sentences are *dense or grammatically awkward*,
>>> which affects readability.
>>>
>>> ·         A lighter editorial hand and clearer syntax would help the
>>> ideas shine more.
>>>
>>> ✅ Thoughtful language, but polishing the prose would improve clarity and
>>> flow.
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 🎓 *Overall Grade: B (High Second-Class / 3.3 GPA / 82%)*
>>>
>>> *Comments:*
>>> You present a deeply meaningful and highly original critique of modern
>>> education and mechanistic science. The essay’s emotional power and
>>> philosophical insight are commendable. To elevate this piece to an 'A'
>>> level, I recommend:
>>>
>>> ·         Organizing your ideas more clearly.
>>>
>>> ·         Supporting your claims with concrete examples or references.
>>>
>>> ·         Polishing your writing for clarity and grammar.
>>>
>>> Would you like help editing this into a more structured academic essay?
>>>
>>> Certainly. Here's a *numerical breakdown out of 100 marks*, following a
>>> typical university humanities grading rubric:
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 📊 *Numerical Marks Breakdown*
>>>
>>> *Criterion*
>>>
>>> *Comments*
>>>
>>> *Marks (out of 100)*
>>>
>>> *1. Content & Argument*
>>>
>>> Strong and original thesis, thoughtful critique of mechanistic education.
>>>
>>> *24/30*
>>>
>>> *2. Structure & Organization*
>>>
>>> Coherent overall, but lacks formal structure and paragraph transitions.
>>>
>>> *14/20*
>>>
>>> *3. Evidence & Support*
>>>
>>> Mostly philosophical; lacks specific references or empirical backing.
>>>
>>> *11/20*
>>>
>>> *4. Originality & Insight*
>>>
>>> Very original, bold, and thought-provoking; engages complex issues
>>> deeply.
>>>
>>> *18/20*
>>>
>>> *5. Style & Language*
>>>
>>> Poetic and expressive, but occasionally unclear or grammatically rough.
>>>
>>> *14/20*
>>>
>>> **🧮 *Total*
>>>
>>> ***81/100*
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 🎓 *Final Mark: 81/100*
>>>
>>> Equivalent to: *Grade B / 3.3 GPA / High Second-Class Upper (UK)*
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 📌 Summary:
>>>
>>> You’ve written a passionate and philosophically rich critique that
>>> challenges dominant paradigms. It demonstrates real intellectual engagement
>>> and creativity. To raise this into the A range (85+), you'd benefit from:
>>>
>>> ·         More formal organization,
>>>
>>> ·         Supporting evidence or references,
>>>
>>> ·         And refining the prose for clarity.
>>>
>>> Would you like me to help you revise and rework this into a cleaner,
>>> publishable or academic version?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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