Respected Mr. Narayanaswamy Sir,
Trying to pointing out mistakes of Mr. Rajaram, is like a tiger arguing with an
ass. There will be no end of correcting his postings.
We know Mr. Rajaram is a contradictor, arguer, abuser and a person telling
lies. He cannot understand highly caliber members are in the group.
So it is best to make your own postings than making responses to his postings.
I request sir to make all the points as a separate posting. We all will be
enlightened.Gopalakrishnan
On Thursday 27 March, 2025 at 07:44:08 am IST, Laxminarayan Sarma
<[email protected]> wrote:
Most Respected and VeneratedNarayanaswamy Anna
Father, forgive them for they know not what they do" pleaded the Jew called
Jesus. I'm not sure if there really existed a guy called such , whether he said
all that's attributed to him or whether and if he was born to a so called
Virgin Mother - Immaculate Conception.
But you, Anna are real. A saintly figure, well versed in the knowledge abd ways
of the worid, a fatherly Christ-like figure (as portrayed bb the Church) with
a large heart, so Christ like, so my plea to you is to just ignore the shit&
slurping mongrel, the mangy, flea-infested, pariah quadruped canine in the form
of a totally illiterate, congenitally idiotic don of a thengalai thevidiya who
conceived him copulating with her own brother in a public latrine in Chennai
The Sob IaRSe-hole has repeatedly proved his incapability in composing even a
straight 8-word sentence, leave alone writing reams on weighty subjects like
the Vedas and other hallowed works.
The Koottachi-magan only cuts - paste stuff that he oretends is his own. Just
as he had his iwn deflowered by his male Muslim lover whom he paid to
impersonate him on his wedding night.
So, Anna, let the SoB stew in his shit. Continue enlightening us, educating us
and entertaining us with your scholarly outputs in your inimitable style
And, by the way, his Andhravadu Pantulu lover - boy Markandeyulu-garu who
recommended to Sri Gopalakrishnan to 'de bracket" himself from you and me , is
in two minds about supporting the tuppence charging Thengalai pundai eunuch
whore Riger-Run IaRSe, collector of soiled sanitary towels and shit soaked
toilet tissue
Abivadaye and humble Prostrations Anna
Respectfully yours
On Thu, 27 Mar, 2025, 6:57 am Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear folks
There is a Malayalam saying:-
"Take into your home a stray vagrant flea-infested mangy starving homeless dog
from the street, bathe it, cleanse it, feed it with the best food, and place it
in the centre of your hall. It will immediately wag its tail, run out and
search for human excreta to eat."
Fits perfectly the character of an ex-IRS former tax collector now turned
full-time garbage-collector who retains his unique faculty of lying even when
he is easily detected.
For example, he claims, in his vain attempt at rebuttal in his article headed
"soma juice":-
"The (soma) yaga lasting from more than twelve days to thousand years is called
‘Satra’[1]. Taittiriya Samhita,1. 2. 1..
The yajur-veda thaiththireeya samhithaa says no such thing.
What it actually says, under the heading "agnishtome krayaha", is:-
"somasya thanoorasi thanuvam me paahi"
which under no misinterpretation can be rendered as soma-yajnya being a
thousand-years-long yaagam.
Twist and turn as he may, he only affirms, which was never disputed, that the
soma juice is extracted from plants.
And that indra and the other vedic deities and their wives are earnestly and
repeatedly invited to join in the orgy of drinking the intoxicant soma-juice as
much as they wish, and in return bestow on the supplicants such blessings as
innumerable cows, horses, other pleasant things, and wealth.
Being uninitiated, uneducated and a lone wolf wandering in the desert, the
current garbage-collector is unaware that just as soma-juice is of vegetable
origin, so are other intoxicants such as European champagnes, wines, beers,
Indian toddy and arrack, Chinese samsu, Japanese sake, Russian vodka, Pacific
Islands' kava, European gin, rum, whisky, brandy, and American "hooch" and
"root beer".
Just as in today's social circles no party is complete without intoxicants
being served, so, it would appear, soma-juice was the prized and popular
intoxicant served to vedic gods at functions during vedic times, according to
the r'g-vedam.
The garbage-collector proudly proclaims:-
"Indra is described in Ṛgveda as the first and most favorite national deity
born to goddess Aditi and Dyaus(both revered as earth and heaven). More hymns
are dedicated to Indra’s honor than to the praise of any other divinity. He is
the God who reigns over the region of heaven. Born as a hero, Indra attains
Godly status by his valor."
My comments:-
Let us not forget the sad tale of Ahalya, wife of Brahmarishi Gauthama, whom
Indra seduced one night, and the couple were caught flagrante delicto by the
rishi and Indra was cursed that his body be turned into a thousand vaginas.
Let us also not forget that Lord Sree Krishna told his devoted cowherds and
cowgirls not to worship Indra, whereupon, on their doing so, Indra invoked the
powers of the rain and the wind gods (Varuna and Vaayu) to destroy the hill on
which the cowpeople lived, in a vain attempt to annihilate them totally. And
Lord Sree Krishna lifted and upheld the hill on his little finger, thus saving
his devotees from Indra's rage. For which heroic act Lord Krishna is revered
as Giridhara Gopaala.
The garbage-collector also tries to bamboozle innocent trusting readers by
saying:-
"Soma was linked with the moon, calling it the ‘moon plant’ because the plant
was gathered by moonlight on mountain regions and carried to the place of
sacrifice."
My comments:-
This weak attempt at deception also fails.
Nowhere in the r'g vedam or any of the other two vedams does it say that the
soma plant "was gathered by moonlight on mountain regions" (and hence soma was
linked with the moon).
In our pooja rituals we call Monday "somavaaram", or the weekday of the moon.
Lord Shiva is called Somashekaran (the deity who wears a crescent moon on his
head). Somanaatha-svaami is the deity of the oft-destroyed Somnah temple in
North India.
Is the garbage collector trying to say that soma juice is just "mooshine"?
There is a popular ditty out west in the United States:-
"I'm a rambler, I'm a gambler; I'm far away from home;And if you don't like me
then leave me alone.I'll eat when I'm hungry, and drink when I am dry,And if
moonshine won't kill me I'll live till I die."
As for the oft-repeated Grand Lie that the r'g-vedam came first, I have pointed
out many and many a time that when Lord Prajaapathi Brahma first gave out the
vedic manthrams to his mid-born Sanaka quadruplets, they were an
undifferentiated mass. It was only much, much later that the original Vyaasas
(not the illegitimate Vaasa od Mahaabhaaratham) split the mass into r'g, yajur,
for ease of study.
Let me repeat, for the garbage-collecor's attention, that a thousand lies do
not turn a lie into the truth.
The r'gvedam was no earlier than the yajur. Nor the saamam. It was
contemporary with the other two.
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 5:01 PM Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear folks
What is r'g-vedam, which is touted by westerners (and by some uninitiated
uneducated blindly imitating locals) as the first and most important of our
vedams?
The serious student of its first two chapters will be forgiven for concluding
that it is nothing more than a rallying cry to the vedic gods such as indra,
agni, vaayu, the maruts, and varuna to come in haste and assemble, together
wives, to join in an orgy of drinking the intoxicating soma juice and, in
return showering the devotees with gifts of cows, horses, thousands of other
valuable things, untold wealth and blessings.
Consider, for example, the following:-
vaayavaa darshathame somo arangkrughaaha theshaapaa hi shrudheehavam l(R V
Cap. I, sooktham 2, sargam 3)
meaning --
O visible god of the winds, come across and drink the soma juice. The entirety
of the supply of soma juice is for you alone. Please drink all of it.
vaaya vindrascha sunvatha aa yaathamam panishkruth l dhiyam khruthaacheem
saadhananaa l(R V Cap. I, sooktham 2, sargam 4)
meaning --
May you, O god of winds and may you, indra, arrive and partake of the ceremony
of drinking soma juice.
ashvino yajvareerisho dravath paanee shubhaspathi l(R V Cap. I, sooktham 3,
sargam 5)
meaning --
O twin-horses ashvini gods, soma juice is specially brewed for you both.
Please come and drink it
indrasoma piba ruthunaa nvavishanthindavaha l mathsaraasthadokasaha ll(R V
Cap. I, sooktham 15, sargam 28)
meaning --
Hey indra, on this auspicious occasion drink as much soma juice as you wish.
R V Cap. I, sooktham 16, sargam 31:-
Hey indra, drink up all the soma juice filling all the vessels in preparation
for the fire-sacrifice so as to give you strength.
somapaa soma peethaye lR V Cap.II, sooktham 21, sargam 3)
meaning --
Let the celestials who so wish drink up all the soma juice.
asya somasya peethaye l(R V Cap.II, sooktham 22, sargam 4)
meaning --
Let the ashvini twins drink the soma juice prepared for them.
agne pathneerihaavaha devaanaamushatheerupa l thvashtaaram soma peethaye
ll(R V Cap.II, sooktham 22, sargam 5)
meaning --
Let all the wives of all the devathaas join in, in drinking the soma juice,
including the celestial called thvashtaa.
agnaayeem somapeethaye l(R V Cap.II, sooktham 22, sargam 6) asyasya somasya
peethayey l(R V Cap.II, sooktham 22, sargam 8)
indramaa somasya peethayey l(R V Cap.II, sooktham 22, sargam 9)
yachchiddhi sathya somapaa anaaashasthaaa ivasmasi l(R V Cap.II, sooktham 29,
sargam 2)
meaning --
Hey indra who loves drinking soma juice, bless us with uncountable numbers of
cows, horses, other thousands of valuable things, and wealth.
aava indrang krivim yathaa vaajanthaha shathakrathum maahishtam sincha
indubhihi l shatham vaayaha shucheenaam l sahasramaa samaashiraam ll(R V
Cap.II, sooktham 30, sargam 28)
meaning --
We are performing tharppanam (sacred oblations) using soma juice. Let indra
who loves the various varieties of soma juice and also the various varieties of
cocktails of milk mixed with soma juice rain blessings upon us.
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
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