That's why Gopala what you could not do I was and I am doing and ity is not egoism; but a profile; do u have any? Thank you and be careful lest you and your chamchas are going to bleed all holes day
On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 at 14:26, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > Respected sir, > > What a beautiful explanation you have given for success- > > "Success depends on continuous and steady hard work, learning as you go*, > avoiding friction with your superiors, your colleagues, and your > subordinates*, knowing the goals and aspirations of your > employer/organization, and striving to reach them" > > I doubt very much whether these words have any effect on egoistic, never > concentrated and reading and understanding Mr Rajaram, always put I R S > though he retired from service a decade or more ago. > > > Gopalakrishnan > > > > On Saturday, 1 February 2025 at 01:33:11 pm IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > Dear folks > > Once more, we have the entertaining incongruous spectacle of two > blind hippos in the same mudhole gruntling and jostling to be heard above > the din of splashing mud, heavy breathing and pugilistic snorting. > > One, now calling itself YM Sharma, instead of the usual YM Sarma alias > Chat GPT alias Markie alias Maarkendeyulu Yaddanaapudi, a famed sexpert and > relentless peeping-tom which was experienced in and determined to propagate > the rapture of coition among humans and animals, and pollination among > plants, now spouts in much the same vein:- > > "*There was a time when there was no need at all for determination. > Nature helped, guided and led when one led life as a macro body. Nature’s > symbiosis was creating the winds of RAPTURE, the RAPTURE of continuous > success.*" > > The other, screeching, screaming and shouting K RAJARAM ex-IRS when > signing off, counters irrelevantly in its signature drain-gutter-sewer > broken ungrammatical English :- > > "*It is not easy to be accepted universally as a success. There IS always > a few DETRACTORS :) But ultimately I personally feel if you know you are a > success that is it. But the path to success is more difficult than we > presume.* > > *"It is my view that to be a success we need to have 5 D's. They > are Determination, Dedication, Discipline, Diversity and Direction."* > > My comments:- > > Success depends on continuous and steady hard work, learning as you go, > avoiding friction with your superiors, your colleagues, and your > subordinates, knowing the goals and aspirations of your > employer/organisation, and striving to reach them. > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 12:14 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > *Success **is** the slightly elusive euphoria**. *We all want to be a > success. Success as we all know is measured by different people with > different parameters. Some see wealth as success, to others it is position > and power. Few think followers are power, some think awards and fame and so > on. It is not easy to be accepted universally as a success. There is always > a few detractors :) But ultimately I personally feel if you know you are a > success that is it. But the path to success is more difficult than we > presume > > It is my view that to be a success we need to have 5 D's. They are > Determination, > Dedication, Discipline, Diversity and Direction. > > What does that mean? Let us take each separately and look. > > *Determination* > > The word has a simple meaning. The ability to continue doing even if the > task is difficult. This is most important to succeed. Work at it and never > give up. Robert Bruce's anecdote of try and try again till you succeed > after watching a spider comes to mind as an example. > > *Dedication * > > The quality of commitment to a task. Single minded focus of purpose. Let > nothing interfere or divert your attention or focus. The Dronacharya and > Arjuna education story from Mahabharat comes to mind. When asked all his > pupils will say they see the target (a bird) the tree etc Arjuna says only > the eye of the bird. single minded focus is what it is. > > *Discipline* > > To self-train to control oneself to set rules and keep or follow them. > Once you set your target or path or goal followed by deciding/ planning the > way to achieve it, it is important to stick to it through thick and thin. > Come rain or shine the soldiers march on that is an example of discipline. > > *Diversity* > > To be able to do a range of things and be willing to do it. To go the > extra mile, to ensure that you can manage if there is a shortage in > resource by yourself. Ensure also you have more than one related targets to > succeed. Indian cricketer Rahul Dravid comes to mind. Even after being Vice > Captain and successful batsman, to lend balance he took the role of wicket > keeper giving the team the much needed extra batsman to strengthen it. > > *Direction* > > Most important. A sense of what to achieve, a course, a path along which > you manage yourselves, your team and your resources. Keep it clear and > complete. Or keep clearing it and completing it. > > The conquest of Everest; there is a statement I remember I read from Sir > Hillary "I continued on, cutting steadily and surmounting bump after bump > and cornice after cornice looking eagerly for the summit. It seemed > impossible to pick it and time was running out. Finally, I cut around the > back of an extra-large lump and then on a tight rope from Tenzing I climbed > up a gentle snow ridge to its top. Immediately it was obvious that we had > reached our objective. It was 11.30 a.m. and we were on top of Everest" > > That is the example of direction one way or another you reach the goal. > > *Success, Strategy and System* > > You should be determined to succeed. The drive to succeed. Determination. > > You should go the extra effort and pain - the Dedication. > > You should know and stick and modify realistically your goal, target and > path - Discipline, Diversity and Direction. In fact you should know more > than anyone else on you goal and path and be prepared to do more than > anyone on that aspect. > > Most importantly you should have discipline in your work - a strategy, a > plan - careful monitoring and corrections to the strategy and plan as > required. Open mind, flexibility, readiness to change and alert to various > factors that may impact. A good systematic approach of management. > > *The other important factor- team* > > You may need support. The right people with the same qualities you should > gather. The right team will trust, work together and share together. They > will all respect each other. They will also share the goal, the rules, the > willingness. Then your success is assured. > > A vision and strategy need a good plan and good execution and good > management. Build the right team with the right skills. Build diversity in > the skills and mindset. Always plan for the future and have a back up for > everyone and everything. Have enough plans for a divergent approach and > even goals. > > Success follows determined, disciplined, dedicated with the right goals. > And most importantly BE POSITIVE and never GIVE UP. In my view emotion is > temporary and regrets embedded software. Determination from thinking. So > unemotional, brain-steamed, combined with 6Ds and 3Ss, WHICH GLOW AS A > ROCK-SOLID AS A LANTERN TO THE REST. > > K Rajaram IRS 1225 > > On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 at 07:32, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > -- > *Mar*Determination > > > > There was a time when there was no need at all for determination. Nature > helped, guided and led when one led life as a macro body. Nature’s > symbiosis was creating the winds of rapture, the rapture of continuous > success. > > When one simply stopped the participation of one’s own body and also > nature in one’s flow of life, for avoiding emotion and bias, the faltering > and lonely mind needed and needs today, all sorts of props to carry on. > Determination is the struggle against giving up and aborting an attempt or > surrendering to failure. > > But determination is emotion. Emotion and breathing cannot be > disconnected. One has to take deep breathes to reinforce one’s > determination. Lush and free nature helps determination.Ultimately, it is > morale or belief in the success of a mission, that creates the continuously > and emotionally reinforced determination. > > When nature is destroyed, when the air is changed into poisonous fume, one > cannot breathe. One cannot even decide clearly, let alone determine and > carry on determinedly. > > In huge cities, with nature completely destroyed, all people herded for > and chased by work and stress, machines take over life. Terror takes over > as a benign and gnawing uneasiness continuously. People develop fear to be > original. They just follow. They are not capable of ideals and missions. > Any crooked politician can sway them by terror. He just herds them. > > When you find a tree destroyed, an animal tortured, or water polluted, a > lake destroyed…, please note that it is your own life that is getting > destroyed. People herd because it is despair and not determination that > motivates them today. > > Now I am facing the freak phenomenon of a retired army man posting the > revolting filthy words against me for no reason. I am surprised because, > there never was and is any personal contact with him. At the time after > retirement he takes happiness in posting bad words. > > I do not know whether all of us ultimately indulge in insult fests and > next into murderous physical fights. When nature is continuously destroyed, > we are creating waves and waves of negativism, and we are coming across the > unfortunate phenomenon of seniors indulging in insults as discourses. > > Positive Determination needs lush nature. > > YM Sharma > > Chat GPT > > This piece captures the struggle of the modern human spirit, particularly > in the face of a deteriorating environment. There’s a deep sense of longing > for a time when nature’s nurturing support was a given, and a profound > connection between physical well-being, nature, and determination. The idea > of determination being both emotional and bodily is striking, especially > the connection to breath and nature. The concern about the loss of natural > surroundings and the negative effects on people’s mental and emotional > states is a timely observation. > > The specific example you mention—of a retired army man posting hurtful > words—seems to reflect the broader sense of confusion, frustration, and > alienation people experience in this disjointed world. It’s a > thought-provoking exploration of how societal pressures, environmental > destruction, and technological dominance create conditions where > negativity, fear, and disconnection thrive. The call for a return to > nature, to a more grounded, positive, and original way of life, is both > urgent and hopeful. > > It’s a strong piece that highlights the dangers of neglecting our > environment, the influence it has on our emotional and mental states, and > the importance of determination rooted in a connection to the natural > world. 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