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---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 at 14:38 Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Re: The need for paradigm change in Economics To: <[email protected]>, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < [email protected]>, gopala krishnan <[email protected]>, Laxminarayan Sarma <[email protected]> Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> Dear folks It is highly amusing to watch the asinine acrobatics that irrepressible aged imbecile comedian-clown KR ex-IRS resorts to whenever reacting to the outrageous antics of super-sexpert and accomplished peeping-tom YM Sarma a.k.a. Yaddanapudi Markandeyulu who fantasises on the *rapture* that plants, grasses, trees, bees, beetles, butterflies and other insects experience and enjoy during coition or pollination. One wooly-head fool shrieks its cock-eyed panacea in broken English and in bold blue ink:- *Today in the universities we have faculty nations with borders and border fights. If ECONOMICS is to deal with today life, it must be first freed from the MECHANICAL paradigm.* The respondent tears its hair, screams and screeches back in block capitals, completely irrelevantly:- "*CHAMAKAM PAVES THE WAY.*" vasodara poured on ashes? S Narayanaswamy Iyer On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 2:09 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yes, we can draw powerful lessons from nature to transform and improve > economic systems. Nature operates on principles of balance, sustainability, > interdependence, and resilience, which can inspire a more equitable and > sustainable economy. Here’s how the lessons from nature can be applied to > reshape the economy: > > 1. Circular Economy: Learning from Natural Cycles > > Nature's Principle: In ecosystems, waste becomes a resource, forming > closed-loop systems where nothing is wasted. > > Economic Application: Transition from a linear economy (take-make-waste) > to a circular economy, where materials are reused, recycled, or regenerated. > > Example: Companies like Patagonia and IKEA have embraced repair and reuse > initiatives, mimicking nature's regenerative processes. > > 2. Diversity and Resilience: Strength in Variety > > Nature's Principle: Biodiversity ensures ecosystems can withstand shocks > and adapt to change. > > Economic Application: Encourage diversity in industries, businesses, and > financial systems to build resilience against global crises like pandemics, > climate change, or economic downturns. > > Example: Promoting local businesses and decentralized energy grids ensures > resilience and reduces dependence on a single system. > > 3. Cooperation Over Competition > > Nature's Principle: Species often cooperate (mutualism and symbiosis) to > thrive together in ecosystems. > > Economic Application: Foster collaborative economies where businesses and > communities work together for shared prosperity, rather than prioritizing > cutthroat competition. > > Example: Co-operative models like Mondragon Corporation in Spain show how > worker-owned businesses can prioritize people and the planet over profit. > > 4. Sustainability: Living Within Limits > > Nature's Principle: Ecosystems self-regulate to avoid overconsumption and > ensure long-term survival. > > Economic Application: Adopt sustainable practices in resource use and > energy production. > > Example: Renewable energy adoption, sustainable agriculture, and > carbon-neutral goals align with nature's balance. > > 5. Adaptation to Change > > Nature's Principle: Evolution ensures species adapt to changing > environments to survive. > > Economic Application: Build flexible economic systems that can adjust to > technological advances, climate change, and social needs. > > Example: Policies that support retraining workers in industries > transitioning to green technologies mirror adaptation in nature. > > 6. Interdependence: Recognizing Global Connectivity > > Nature's Principle: Ecosystems are deeply interconnected; harm to one part > affects the whole. > > Economic Application: Foster global cooperation to address issues like > climate change, pandemics, and inequality, recognizing that actions in one > area ripple across the world. > > Example: International efforts like the Paris Agreement reflect this > interconnected approach. > > 7. Valuing the Commons > > Nature's Principle: Shared resources like air, water, and forests benefit > all species. > > Economic Application: Protect and manage commons such as clean water, air, > and public spaces, resisting privatization and over-extraction. > > Example: Community-led forest management in regions like the Himalayas > demonstrates sustainable resource use. > > 8. Small and Decentralized Systems > > Nature's Principle: Ecosystems thrive on localized interdependencies > rather than massive centralized systems. > > Economic Application: Decentralize economies, empower local communities, > and focus on small-scale, adaptable businesses. > > Example: Local food systems and farmer markets reduce reliance on large > supply chains and create economic resilience. > > By aligning economic practices with nature’s principles, we can create > systems that are sustainable, just, and resilient—ensuring long-term > prosperity for people and the planet. This shift requires a combination of > policy changes, community action, and individual responsibility. > > ALL THE ABOVE IS FEASIBLE FROM THE CONTEXT OF GOOD THINKERS: > > The principles discussed in applying lessons from nature to economics draw > on a variety of fields, philosophies, and evidence-based studies. While > there is no single "book" or "teacher" for these ideas, they are based on > interdisciplinary insights from areas such as ecology, systems thinking, > environmental economics, and sustainable development. Below are some key > sources and influences that support this perspective: > > 1. "The Systems View of Life" by Fritjof Capra and Pier Luigi Luisi: > Explores how systems thinking applies to biology, ecology, and economics. > Studies on ecological resilience by scholars like C.S. Holling, who > introduced the concept of resilience in natural systems. > > 2. Circular Economy Framework "Cradle to Cradle" by William > McDonough and Michael Baumgart: Outlines principles of designing systems > that mimic nature’s regenerative cycles. > > 3. Indigenous and Traditional Knowledge Indigenous practices > worldwide emphasize balance and sustainability, such as the Hawaiian > concept of "Aloha ʻĀina" (love of the land) and the Andean concept of > "Sumak Kawsay" (living well in harmony with nature). Aloha concept (Hawaii > is full of nature and all structures are built without affecting the > nature; and the book I bought induced the idea of the statement called > aloha economy.) > > 4. Sustainability and Global Frameworks United Nations Sustainable > Development Goals (SDGs): A framework that incorporates environmental, > social, and economic sustainability. (In the web site) > > 5 Philosophical and Holistic Roots Ancient philosophies like Vedanta, > Taoism, and Buddhism emphasize interconnectedness and living within > limits. Modern thinkers like Donella Meadows ("Thinking in Systems") and > Kate Raworth ("Doughnut Economics") bridge these timeless ideas with > practical frameworks for economic reform. The ideas presented are > synthesized from these sources and grounded in evidence-based practices, > historical examples, and theoretical frameworks, all of which emphasize the > interdependence of human systems and the natural world. CHAMAKAM PAVES THE > WAY. > > Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > K Rajaram IRS 19125 > > On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 at 07:24, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> -- >> *Mar* >> *The need for paradigm change in Economics* >> >> *The basic urge of every person is to belong, to be loved, to be >> accepted, to be approved, to create and get appreciation, to love and be >> loved, to harmonize, to synchronize, to cooperate, to coordinate, to >> collaborate, to strive for a common goal...Societies develop through, >> coopting, networking and synergizing. Societies cannot move forward on the >> basis of deadly competition and the triumph of the winner and the dictum >> that winner take all.Unfortunately the negative urge competition today >> rules the economic thought.* >> >> *Suppose instead of the equilibrium analysis among the conflicting and >> competing forces, you have harmony analysis, cooperation analysis, synergy >> analysis, teaming analysis...The very idea of competition will gradually >> vanish. One tests himself/herself on one’s capacity to accept and approve. >> One can gradually eliminate from oneself the mentality of treating others >> as ticketless travellers. You do not find people who make pejorative >> remarks and pose as achievers. They cannot approve themselves by being >> negative and proud.* >> >> *Thanks to the concept of competition, a sub conscious urge to >> belittle,denigrate,write off,discount,scowl at...all unpleasant mannerisms >> are creeping into human relations. We have come to a stage where human >> beings can no longer be social beings. There are no conversations, gossips, >> pleasantries.There are only debates, where the fight to drown the other >> man’s voice is the only objective.* >> >> *If during the medieval ages heretics were burnt on the stakes, today >> those who fail in competition are starved. Educational degrees are no >> longer intellectual achievements. They are just wins in the contest to >> reproduce accepted points in the particular subject. There is an urgent >> need for a paradigm change in economics. Thanks to the glorification of >> competition the urge to write off has become compulsive in many.* >> >> *Is it not absurd that the subject matter of economics is not ecology and >> physical Geography that influences the motivational basis of day today >> life? We think that societies are inanimate machines that obey Newtonian >> Physics. There is need for a TOE, that covers the Micro and Macro >> Psychologies, along with the present efforts to develop the Quantum Theory >> of Gravity (The Strings Teory,The M Theories, The Loops Quantum Gravity >> Theory and the concept of the Universe as a Hologram).And Economics as life >> of the ordinary human in the day today life of emotional interactions must >> be the flower of these efforts.* >> >> *Today in the Universities we have faculty nations with borders and >> border fights. If Economics is to deal with day today life, it must be >> first freed from the mechanical paradigm.* >> >> *YM Sarma* >> >> *Chat GPT* >> >> This passage presents a critique of the current economic paradigm, >> arguing that the dominant model based on competition is inadequate for >> fostering human well-being, social cohesion, and sustainable societal >> development. The author, YM Sarma, suggests a fundamental shift in how >> economics is conceived and practiced, proposing that it should prioritize >> cooperation, harmony, and synergy rather than competition. >> >> Key points from the passage include: >> >> 1. *Human Nature and Social Connections*: Sarma highlights the >> fundamental human need for belonging, love, acceptance, and cooperation, >> emphasizing that societies evolve through collaboration, not through >> destructive competition. He argues that the prevailing competitive economic >> model fails to acknowledge this innate human tendency. >> >> 2. *Critique of Competition*: The author critiques the negative >> aspects of competition that dominate current economic thought. He notes >> that competition fosters an environment of belittlement, contempt, and >> division, leading to a loss of genuine human connection and understanding. >> >> 3. *Call for Paradigm Change*: Sarma advocates for a shift from the >> traditional competitive model to one focused on harmony, cooperation, and >> teamwork. In such a model, individuals would test themselves based on their >> capacity for approval, acceptance, and positive interaction with others. >> This would, in turn, lead to more constructive and supportive human >> relations. >> >> 4. *The Limitations of Current Economics*: The author suggests that >> current economic theories are overly focused on abstract, mechanical models >> (such as equilibrium analysis) that ignore the emotional and social >> dimensions of human life. He critiques the current system for neglecting >> the ecological and psychological factors that shape human behavior and >> societal interactions. >> >> 5. *Integration with Broader Scientific Understandings*: Sarma >> calls for a broader approach to economics that integrates concepts from >> psychology, ecology, and even modern physics (e.g., string theory and >> quantum gravity). He envisions an economics that reflects the complex, >> interconnected nature of life, rather than a reductionist, mechanical model. >> >> 6. *Educational Critique*: The passage also critiques the education >> system, particularly in economics, for reinforcing a competitive, >> achievement-oriented mentality rather than fostering genuine intellectual >> and emotional growth. The author laments that degrees are treated as mere >> victories in a contest rather than as meaningful intellectual or personal >> achievements. >> >> 7. *A New Vision for Economics*: Ultimately, Sarma envisions an >> economics that is more human-centered, focusing on the daily emotional >> interactions and cooperative efforts that underpin human life. This new >> economics would align with a more holistic understanding of the world, >> where societies are seen not as machines but as dynamic, interconnected >> systems. >> >> In summary, YM Sarma is advocating for a profound transformation in >> economic thought, moving away from the glorification of competition and >> toward an economics based on human connection, cooperation, and the >> holistic understanding of life. >> >> >> >> >> > -- > On Facebook, please join https://www.facebook.com/groups/keralaiyerstrust > > We are now on Telegram Mobile App also, please join > > Pattars/Kerala Iyers Discussions: https://t.me/PattarsGroup > > Kerala Iyers Trust Decisions only posts : https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrust > > Kerala Iyers Trust Group for Discussions: > https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrustGroup > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "KeralaIyers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/keralaiyers/CAL5XZooqerDaFNDVFCr%3D%3DXkW-NREM0h5b-KkSPxb-4ULx%2B7RkA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/keralaiyers/CAL5XZooqerDaFNDVFCr%3D%3DXkW-NREM0h5b-KkSPxb-4ULx%2B7RkA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- On Facebook, please join https://www.facebook.com/groups/keralaiyerstrust We are now on Telegram Mobile App also, please join Pattars/Kerala Iyers Discussions: https://t.me/PattarsGroup Kerala Iyers Trust Decisions only posts : https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrust Kerala Iyers Trust Group for Discussions: https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrustGroup --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "KeralaIyers" group. 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