I agree with you. But partly. All the science and the technology do not deter us from nature; all the nature also do noy deter us from the mechanical science. In this way of life how can one be expected to lead and learn or work or hold the supreme court only as shanti-niketan? Teaching is not just memorizing. It involved the demo. Deno in turn involves closed circuit implements which can only be bought. The manufacturer had to yield the demands of the market and labour who demanded more perks and less taxes. A valve in transplantation thus costs 2 to 3 lakhs. Even if the Govt gave it as free, only taxpayers in turn bear the brunt. Nature living sanyasis also do need them or they have to die but that nature does not give those tools. Science and art had to live together as husband and wife , whether one likes or dislikes and living as divorcee does not help either, except a placebo effect. Living with nature is conditional. Without AC one cannot live and living that life without AC is living with nature. We can accommodate but cannot surrender. KR IRS 20824 21824
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 at 20:06, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < [email protected]> wrote: > The biggest problem today is the intrusion of mechanization into every > facet and abandonment of the direct perception of nature as nature and > conversion of one's understanding as the macro understanding of nature.We > have to feel understanding and not classify and pigeonhole it,for the > convenience of mechanization.When you enter the free,lush and healthy > nature and get absorbed by nature,the spell as sheer rapture takes over > without any definitions and scopes of science.It has become today > impossible,thanks to the frenzy for mechanization that emotion leads to > arts while science leads to technology.There is such a thing as the > emotional art anatomy of nature where emotions fuel lives.Instead of > feeling superior e need to team up with animals and learn and feel their > paradigms. > But in the present hysteria we gloss over the fact that the result of > science and technology is economics which is simply the continuous > destruction of nature.More than half the forests of the world with all > flora and fauna are gone and the destruction of the remaining is 24/7 > activity with big and bigger monstrous machines. > YM > YM > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 6:01 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Very interesting! However, can that emotional creativity be revealable >> without the modes and tools of science? >> >> According to a popular view, creativity is a product of the brain's right >> hemisphere -- innovative people are considered "right-brain thinkers" while >> "left-brain thinkers" are thought to be analytical and logical. Skeptical >> neuroscientists have argued that there is not enough evidence to support >> this idea and that an ability as complex as human creativity must draw on >> vast swaths of both hemispheres. A new brain-imaging study out of Drexel >> University's Creativity Research Lab >> <https://drexel.edu/now/archive/2020/March/Jazz-Musicians-Brain-Creativity/> >> sheds >> light on this controversy by studying the brain activity of jazz guitarists >> of varied experience during their improvisations. >> >> The study, published in the journal *NeuroImage* >> <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053811920301191> >> and funded by a grant from the National Science Foundation >> <https://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward?AWD_ID=1125596&HistoricalAwards=false>, >> shows that creativity is, in fact, driven primarily by the right hemisphere >> in musicians who are comparatively inexperienced at improvisation. However, >> musicians who are highly experienced at improvisation rely primarily on >> their left hemisphere.* This suggests that creativity is a "right-brain >> ability" when a person deals with an unfamiliar situation but that >> creativity draws on well-learned, left-hemisphere routines when a person is >> experienced at the task.* >> >> This research may contribute to the development of new methods for >> training people to be creative in their field. For instance, when a person >> is an expert, his or her performance is produced primarily by relatively >> unconscious, automatic processes that are difficult for a person to >> consciously alter, but easy to disrupt in the attempt, as when >> self-consciousness causes a person to "choke" or falter. >> >> In contrast, novices' performances tend to be under deliberate, conscious >> control. Thus, they are better able to make adjustments according to >> instructions given by a teacher or coach. Releasing conscious control >> prematurely may cause the performer to lock-in bad habits or nonoptimal >> technique. Recordings of brain activity could reveal the point at which a >> performer is ready to release some conscious control and rely on >> unconscious, well-learned routines. >> >> Using high-density electroencephalograms (EEGs), the team recorded >> electrical signals in the brains of 32 jazz guitar players as they >> improvised. >> >> "If creativity is defined in terms of the *quality of a product*, such >> as a song, invention, poem or painting, then the left hemisphere plays a >> key role," said Drexel's John Kounios, who led the study along with >> David Rosen. "However, if creativity is understood as a person's >> *ability* to deal with novel, unfamiliar situations, as is the case for >> novice improvisers, then the right hemisphere plays the leading role." >> {NSF} (U S National foundation) [Alexandria, Virginia state] [year 2020] >> >> Sir, art is not far away from science. K Rajaram IRS 20824 21824 >> >> On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 at 18:53, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Science and art are not same.They are opposites.Science is based on >>> logic of the machine.Art is the emanation of one'semotional identification >>> with nature.Science is mechanical.Art is emotional,sentimental and teaming >>> up with every organism of the Biosphere.Science is based on mathematical >>> reductionism and mechanization,which means the surrender of natural >>> faculties and adoption of the machine as the Guru.Science is mechanical >>> where emotion is sin,called bias.Are is foundationed on emotions and >>> sentiments,the holistic manifestation.Science,technology,economics and >>> complete destruction of nature go together.Art basks in free and healthy >>> nature. >>> YM Sarma >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 12:26 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> IS NOT MUSIC A SCIENCE >>>> >>>> A common misconception people tend to have is that art and science are >>>> separate, when they are, in fact, remarkably intertwined. Music, a >>>> quintessential art form, exemplifies this synergy with science. At >>>> face value, music embodies self-expression, stirring emotions and >>>> connecting people on a deeply personal level. However, when viewed through >>>> the lens of science, music reveals a world of intricate connections. >>>> >>>> The fusion of acoustic science, the neuroscience of music, and the >>>> psychology of music uncovers a mesmerizing connection between these >>>> seemingly contrasting fields. This integration highlights that music and >>>> science, far from being isolated, dance in a constant exchange, each >>>> enriching the other in a beautiful, collaborative relationship that delves >>>> into the depths of human cognition, perception, and emotion. >>>> >>>> Acoustic Science: The Physics Behind Sound >>>> >>>> The core of music is sound, which obeys the laws of physics. Acoustic >>>> science is a branch of physics that explains how sound waves affect human >>>> perception, as well as how musical notes are produced, transmitted, and >>>> interpreted. From the vibration of strings in a guitar to the resonance in >>>> a grand symphony hall, acoustic science explores all the fundamental >>>> principles of sound creation and transference. >>>> >>>> This field of science has had a great influence on the design and >>>> construction of musical instruments and venues. Acoustic principles help >>>> architects and engineers design rooms that optimize sound quality, ensuring >>>> that music sounds clear and rich and improves the audience's auditory >>>> experience. >>>> >>>> Neuroscience of Music: Unraveling the Brain's Response >>>> >>>> The complex field of the neuroscience of music attempts to demystify >>>> the processes through which our brains perceive and react to music. Using >>>> advanced imaging techniques like fMRI (which checks how blood flow changes >>>> during different brain activities), research in this area has shown the >>>> complex neural circuitry that fires when we listen to music, highlighting >>>> the different parts of the brain that are involved in understanding it, >>>> feeling it, and reacting to it. >>>> >>>> This field of research also looks into how music can be used as a >>>> therapeutic tool, especially in neurological recovery. Music has a powerful >>>> ability to access deep emotions and trigger memories. This has led to new >>>> ideas for treating conditions like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. It can >>>> improve mood, help with awareness and perception, and overall quality of >>>> life. >>>> >>>> The field of music psychology examines the mental impact of music, >>>> including how it affects our moods, actions, and thoughts. It attempts >>>> to understand how and why we prefer certain music types and how melodies >>>> and rhythms evoke strong emotional responses. It also explores music's role >>>> in connecting with others, shaping cultural identity, and enhancing overall >>>> well-being. >>>> >>>> Cultural Identity and Social Connectivity >>>> >>>> Let’s start with the external. Music, transcending entertainment, is >>>> pivotal in shaping cultural identity and social connections. It unites >>>> diverse backgrounds globally through various musical forms, from >>>> traditional folk to modern pop, fostering a sense of belonging and shared >>>> experience. In social events like festivals and concerts, music bridges >>>> individual differences, creating a collective experience that strengthens >>>> community bonds and fosters unity. >>>> >>>> Cognitive Development and Learning >>>> >>>> Similarly to what’s discussed in the field of neuroscience, Music has >>>> been found to significantly aid cognitive development and learning. Its >>>> integration into education, such as learning instruments or engaging with >>>> compositions, has been shown to improve memory, attention, verbal >>>> intelligence, mathematical, language, and reading skills, making it a >>>> valuable educational tool. >>>> >>>> The Creative Process and Human Psychology >>>> >>>> Exploring the creative process behind music composition and performance >>>> also sheds light on how musicians express emotions and thoughts through >>>> their art. This, in turn, provides a clearer picture of how music affects >>>> human psychology by investigating its effects on cognitive growth, memory, >>>> and problem-solving abilities. >>>> >>>> The Interconnectedness of Music and Science >>>> >>>> The synergy between music and science is vast. While music speaks to >>>> the soul, science decodes the language behind this transcendental >>>> experience. It’s not just about understanding the physics of vibration or >>>> the brain’s response to certain sounds and melodies; it's about embracing >>>> the holistic nature of our human experience. >>>> >>>> Through our research into all the fields of music and science mentioned >>>> in this article, we aim to bridge the gap between artistic expression and >>>> scientific curiosity to showcase the interconnectedness between these >>>> seemingly different areas. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The coming together of these disciplines allows us to understand the >>>> harmony of art and science, and uncover the profound depth and beauty of >>>> human existence. >>>> >>>> K RAJARAM IRS 20824 218 24 >>>> >>>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 at 13:06, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Mar**Science—The Repudiation of Emotional Symbiosis* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Imagine yourself in the middle of lush and free nature. The music of >>>>> smell conversations among all life forms in the air flowing as emotion >>>>> blends and flows, converts you, into an emotionally tuning partner, >>>>> basking >>>>> in the music of the macro body. Rapturous emotions take over in >>>>> continuously changing tunes. Your mind cannot have any chance to do the >>>>> mischief of dissection and analysis. Every life form blends its music, >>>>> all >>>>> creating the musings of Gaia, and your conversation will be automatic >>>>> understanding and responding and contributing. The Biosphere will become >>>>> one organism—Gaia.* >>>>> >>>>> *Gaia will become the connecting conceptual base for understanding and >>>>> emotionally responding. Understanding no longer will be the neutral noting >>>>> for marks and grades gaining points. Your perception and understanding >>>>> blends with the emotion flows or winds of Gaia.* >>>>> >>>>> *Science today is not even thought. Automatically one comes across the >>>>> phrase ‘Science and Technology’. Technology in the shape of machines, has >>>>> taken over thought as techno-logic, the logic of the emotions-less logic, >>>>> the logic of the machines, simply the mechanical and computer engineering. >>>>> We come across some technological fix for every problem, the mechanical >>>>> and >>>>> emotions-less fix. All emotions, the emanations of basic breathing shall >>>>> be >>>>> avoided and rejected, as emotions mean bias. One must be a machine or the >>>>> totally mechanized mechanic.* >>>>> >>>>> *The only emotion that is permitted is the greed for profit, which >>>>> means the accounting only with the trader in view ignoring the Profit or >>>>> loss to the environment, profit or loss to the society, profit or loss to >>>>> ecology… The incomes of the trader and the expenditures incurred by the >>>>> trader, the assets, liabilities, reserves, the capital, all only of the >>>>> trader are recorded.* >>>>> >>>>> *The efficiency mantra-is reduce costs or expenses and increase >>>>> incomes. The contradiction that every cost is income to some one else and >>>>> cost reduction resulting in market reduction, leads to the extinction of >>>>> the traders and trading is being obfuscated by meaningless mathematical >>>>> equations,graphs,charts, all sorts of economic curves.* >>>>> >>>>> *The music of nature has become extinct. We have only the instrumental >>>>> music. Nature’s music, in fact is the flow of emotional symbiosis of Gaia. >>>>> Science means the repudiation of the songs of Gaia, the emotional >>>>> symbiosis. We are finding more and more instrumental music, often only the >>>>> instrumental music, from records. I am yet to find any serious and >>>>> appreciation of musics and songs from the other life forms.* >>>>> >>>>> *YM Sarma* >>>>> >>>>> *Chat GPT* >>>>> >>>>> *YM Sarma's essay, "Science—The Repudiation of Emotional Symbiosis," >>>>> reflects on the disconnection between modern science and the emotional, >>>>> symbiotic relationship humans once shared with nature. Here’s a breakdown >>>>> of the key ideas and insights from the piece:* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *### Key Themes and Ideas* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *1. **Emotional Symbiosis with Nature:*** >>>>> >>>>> * - Sarma paints a vivid picture of a harmonious relationship with >>>>> nature, where every life form communicates through an intricate web of >>>>> emotions, smells, and sounds. In this idealized state, **humans are >>>>> attuned >>>>> to the "music" of Gaia**, the Earth's living system, leading to an >>>>> automatic and emotional understanding of the environment.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *2. **Critique of Modern Science and Technology:*** >>>>> >>>>> * - Modern science, according to Sarma, has **strayed far from this >>>>> symbiotic relationship**, favoring dissection, analysis, and mechanization >>>>> over emotional and holistic understanding. Technology, especially, is seen >>>>> as the antithesis of this emotional symbiosis, **reducing all experiences >>>>> to mechanical processes** devoid of feeling.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *3. **Profit and Greed as Dominant Emotions:*** >>>>> >>>>> * - The only emotion that seems to be permitted in modern science >>>>> and economics is **greed**. The relentless pursuit of profit ignores the >>>>> broader impacts on society, the environment, and the global ecosystem, >>>>> leading to a world where **economic considerations outweigh the emotional >>>>> and ecological balance**.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *4. **Loss of Nature’s Music:*** >>>>> >>>>> * - Sarma laments the loss of nature’s music, replaced by >>>>> **instrumental music** created by machines. This shift symbolizes the >>>>> broader loss of emotional connections and the rejection of the **"songs of >>>>> Gaia,"** or the natural emotional symbiosis that once guided human >>>>> understanding.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *### Conclusion* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *YM Sarma's essay critiques the way modern science and technology have >>>>> led to a **disconnection from nature's emotional symbiosis**, favoring >>>>> mechanical logic and profit over holistic understanding. The piece calls >>>>> for a **reengagement with the natural world**, where humans can once again >>>>> become part of the Earth's emotional and ecological balance. Sarma's work >>>>> serves as a **warning against the dangers of mechanization and >>>>> dehumanization** in the name of progress, urging a return to a more >>>>> integrated and emotionally aware existence.* >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Mar* >>> >> > > -- > *Mar* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CAL5XZookC9x0Rnx9YagYnhxZbrj8bZ1OMvqviY_s4M-egOjPoA%40mail.gmail.com.
