On 20201001, at 07:00, Dirk Hohndel via subsurface 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Chirana Gheorghita Eugeniu Theodor 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> What would be needed to have a secondary server in a new location? what 
>> setup are we talking about? 
> 
> It’s actually rather difficult to load-balance this without adding a ton (and 
> I mean a TON) of infrastructure that I’m not really interested in 
> maintaining. I have spent a bit of time trying to figure out if there’s a way 
> to cheat and not need a storage engine, but if there is, I haven’t found any 
> pointers on how to do this.

Do you have a mini description of the server side setup (code/fs/db)? Is it Git 
based?

> I do have a way to do a hot standby, I may have deleted that hot standby from 
> AWS because I was ticked off about the money they charged me for it - when it 
> never once got used. And this still had the problem with figuring out how to 
> implement the traffic distribution without incurring even more AWS fees.

Active/standy should be fine for this purpose.

Just rsync/git-pull the stuff over, so that if the primary dies, that you can 
switch over manually.

Split-brain is the biggest issue in these kind of setups.


The fun detail is that basement servers are typically the most stable (except 
for the connectivity possibly), and if something breaks one can actually walk 
to that "datacenter" easily, often much quicker to fix too if one needs spare 
parts etc. And with cheap-ish power, and free cooling / colder environment (we 
got first snow at 1200m) it is price-wise cheaper than a colo'd box.

That said though, I use private colo'd servers (because of home connectivity 
not always being superb and could not get more than slow cable speeds and 
upload at home still is slow), if you need a secondary/third VM somewhere on a 
static IP (colo'd), don't hesitate to yell, more than happy to donate one for 
Subsurface (and I am sure others here can do the same; it is always funny the 
names you see on this list ;) ).

Also, the expertise + time for doing a full active-active version if one wants 
to go in that direction, I have setup my share of those systems.

But as you say,.... if it is 99.8% running, meh, is not life critical. Long 
live git.

>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020, 01:31 Rick Walsh via subsurface 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> To conserve money, much of the infrastructure is actually running in my 
>> basement.
>> All of course on a UPS, with redundant internet connection, etc.
>> 
>> Power went out today. And my UPS failed.
>> I've always wondered what that U in UPS actually stands for.
> 
> Oh, speaking of saving money… yeah, I bought a new UPS. Oh, and one of my 
> little NUCs needed a bigger NVMe M.2 SSD.
> So maybe I really don’t understand how to save money :-)

Sounds like a still cheap rabbit hole to me ;)

Greets,
 Jeroen
  (who is awaiting travel to become easier again so I can pack some bags and go 
see some big fish...)

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