Hi Erick,
I tried out your changes from the branch_4x branch. It looks good in terms of 
preserving the zkHost, but I'm running into an exception because it isn't 
persisting the instanceDir attribute on the <core> element.

I've got a few other things I need to take care of, but as soon as I have time 
I'll dig in and see if I can figure out what's going on, and see what changed 
to make this not work.

Here are details on what the files looked like before/after CREATE call:

original solr.xml:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<solr persistent="true" sharedLib="lib" zkHost="10.116.249.136:2181">
  <!-- this 8080 might need to change in production -->
  <cores adminPath="/admin/cores" zkClientTimeout="20000" hostPort="8080" 
hostContext="/"/>
</solr>

here's what was produced with 4.3 branch + a quick mod to preserve zkHost:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<solr persistent="true" zkHost="10.116.249.136:2181" sharedLib="lib">
  <cores adminPath="/admin/cores" zkClientTimeout="20000" hostPort="8080" 
hostContext="/">
    <core loadOnStartup="true" shard="shard1" 
instanceDir="directory_shard1_replica1/" transient="false" 
name="directory_shard1_replica1" collection="directory"/>
    <core loadOnStartup="true" shard="shard2" 
instanceDir="directory_shard2_replica1/" transient="false" 
name="directory_shard2_replica1" collection="directory"/>
  </cores>
</solr>

here's what was produced with branch_4x 4.4-SNAPSHOT:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<solr persistent="true" zkHost="10.116.249.136:2181" sharedLib="lib">
  <cores adminPath="/admin/cores" zkClientTimeout="20000" 
distribUpdateSoTimeout="0" distribUpdateConnTimeout="0" hostPort="8080" 
hostContext="/">
    <core shard="shard1" numShards="2" name="directory_shard1_replica2" 
collection="directory" qt="/admin/cores" wt="javabin" version="2"/>
    <core shard="shard2" numShards="2" name="directory_shard2_replica2" 
collection="directory" qt="/admin/cores" wt="javabin" version="2"/>
  </cores>
</solr>

and here's the error from solr.log after restarting after the CREATE:

2013-06-17 21:37:07,083 1874 [pool-2-thread-1] ERROR 
org.apache.solr.core.CoreContainer  - null:java.lang.NullPointerException: 
Missing required 'instanceDir'
        at org.apache.solr.core.CoreDescriptor.doInit(CoreDescriptor.java:133)
        at org.apache.solr.core.CoreDescriptor.<init>(CoreDescriptor.java:87)
        at org.apache.solr.core.CoreContainer.load(CoreContainer.java:365)
        at org.apache.solr.core.CoreContainer.load(CoreContainer.java:221)
        at 
org.apache.solr.core.CoreContainer$Initializer.initialize(CoreContainer.java:190)
        at 
org.apache.solr.servlet.SolrDispatchFilter.init(SolrDispatchFilter.java:124)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterConfig.initFilter(ApplicationFilterConfig.java:277)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterConfig.getFilter(ApplicationFilterConfig.java:258)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterConfig.setFilterDef(ApplicationFilterConfig.java:382)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterConfig.<init>(ApplicationFilterConfig.java:103)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.filterStart(StandardContext.java:4638)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.startInternal(StandardContext.java:5294)
        at org.apache.catalina.util.LifecycleBase.start(LifecycleBase.java:150)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChildInternal(ContainerBase.java:895)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChild(ContainerBase.java:871)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.addChild(StandardHost.java:615)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployDirectory(HostConfig.java:1099)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig$DeployDirectory.run(HostConfig.java:1621)
        at 
java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:471)
        at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:334)
        at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:166)
        at 
java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1110)
        at 
java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:603)
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:679)


On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:38 AM, Erick Erickson wrote:

> Al:
> 
> As it happens, I hope sometime today to put up a patch for SOLR-4910
> that should harden up many things in persisting solr.xml, I'll be sure
> to include this. It's kind of a pain to create an automated test for
> this, so I'll give it a whirl manually.
> 
> As you say, most of this is going away in 5.0, but it needs to work for 4.x.
> 
> And when I get the patch up, if you could give it a "real world" try
> it'd be great!
> 
> Thanks,
> Erick
> 
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Al Wold <alw...@alwold.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm working on setting up a solr cloud test environment, and the target 
>> environment I need to put it in has multiple webapps per tomcat instance. 
>> With that in mind, I wanted/had to avoid putting any configs in system 
>> properties. I tried putting the zkHost in solr.xml, like this:
>> 
>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
>>> <solr persistent="true" sharedLib="lib" zkHost="10.116.249.136:2181">
>>>  <!-- this 8080 might need to change in production -->
>>>  <cores adminPath="/admin/cores" zkClientTimeout="20000" hostPort="8080" 
>>> hostContext="/"/>
>>> </solr>
>> 
>> Everything works fine when I first start things up, create collections, 
>> upload docs, search, etc. Creating the collection, however, modifies the 
>> solr.xml file, and doesn't keep the zkHost setting:
>> 
>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
>>> <solr persistent="true" sharedLib="lib">
>>>  <cores adminPath="/admin/cores" zkClientTimeout="20000" hostPort="8080" 
>>> hostContext="/">
>>>    <core loadOnStartup="true" shard="shard2" 
>>> instanceDir="directory_shard2_replica1/" transient="false" 
>>> name="directory_shard2_replica1" collection="directory"/>
>>>    <core loadOnStartup="true" shard="shard1" 
>>> instanceDir="directory_shard1_replica1/" transient="false" 
>>> name="directory_shard1_replica1" collection="directory"/>
>>>  </cores>
>>> </solr>
>> 
>> 
>> With that in mind, once I restart tomcat, it no longer knows it's supposed 
>> to be talking to zookeeper, so it looks for local configs and blows up.
>> 
>> I traced this back to the code in CoreContainer.java, in the method 
>> persistFile(), where it seems to contain no code to write out the zkHost 
>> when it updates solr.xml. I upped the logging on my solr instance to verify 
>> this code is executing, so I'm pretty sure it's the right spot.
>> 
>> Is anyone else using zkHost in their solr.xml successfully? I can't see how 
>> it would work given this problem.
>> 
>> Does this seem like a bug? If so, I can probably file a report and submit a 
>> patch. It seems like this problem may become a non-issue in 5.0, based on 
>> comments in the code and some of the discussion in JIRA, but I'm not sure 
>> how far off that is.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -Al Wold
>> 

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