NP ;-) . Just to explain:
With tooltips I meant js-tooltips (not the native webbrowser tooltips) since sliders require JS anyway, presenting additional info in a Js-tooltip on drag, doesn't limit the nr of people able to view it. I think this is ok from a usability standpoint since I don't consider the 'nr of items left' info 100% essential (after all lots of sites do well without it at the moment). Call if graceful degradation ;-) As for mobile, I never realized that 'hover' is an issue on mobile, but on drag is supported on mobile touch displays... Moreover, having a navigational-complex site like kayak.com / tripadvisor.com to work well on mobile (from a usability perspective) is pretty much an utopia anyway. For these types of sites, specialized mobile sites (or apps as is the case for the above brands) are the way to go in my opinion. Geert-Jan 2010/5/28 Mark Bennett <mbenn...@ideaeng.com> > Haha! Important tooltips are now "deprecated" in Web Applications. > > This is nothing "official", of course. > > But it's being advised to avoid important UI tasks that require cursor > tracking, mouse-over, hovering, etc. in web applications. > > Why? Many touch-centric mobile devices don't support "hover". For me I'm > used to my laptop where the touch pad or stylus *is* able to measure the > pressure. But the finger based touch devices generally can differenciate > it > I guess. > > They *can* tell one gesture from another, but only looking at the timing > and > shape. And hapless hover aint one of them. > > With that said, I'm still a fan of Tool Tips in desktop IDE's like Eclipse, > or even on Web applications when I'm on a desktop. > > I guess the point is that, if it's a really important thing, then you need > to expose it in another way on mobile. > > Just passing this on, please don't shoot the messenger. ;-) > > Mark > > -- > Mark Bennett / New Idea Engineering, Inc. / mbenn...@ideaeng.com > Direct: 408-733-0387 / Main: 866-IDEA-ENG / Cell: 408-829-6513 > > > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Geert-Jan Brits <gbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Perhaps you could show the 'nr of items left' as a tooltip of sorts when > > the > > user actually drags the slider. > > If the user doesn't drag (or hovers over ) the slider 'nr of items left' > > isn't shown. > > > > Moreover, initially a slider doesn't limit the results so 'nr of items > > left' > > shown for the slider would be the same as the overall number of items > left > > (thereby being redundant) > > > > I must say I haven't seen this been implemented but it would be rather > easy > > to adapt a slider implementation, to show the nr on drag/ hover. (they > > exit > > for jquery, scriptaculous and a bunch of other libs) > > > > Geert-Jan > > > > 2010/5/27 Lukas Kahwe Smith <m...@pooteeweet.org> > > > > > > > > On 27.05.2010, at 23:32, Geert-Jan Brits wrote: > > > > > > > Something like sliders perhaps? > > > > Of course only numerical ranges can be put into sliders. (or a > concept > > > that > > > > may be logically presented as some sort of ordening, such as "bad, > hmm, > > > > good, great" > > > > > > > > Use Solr's Statscomponent to show the min and max values > > > > > > > > Have a look at tripadvisor.com for good uses/implementation of > sliders > > > > (price, and reviewscore are presented as sliders) > > > > my 2c: try to make the possible input values discrete (like at > > > tripadvisor) > > > > which gives a better user experience and limits the potential nr of > > > queries > > > > (cache-wise advantage) > > > > > > > > > yeah i have been pondering something similar. but i now realized that > > this > > > way the user doesnt get an overview of the distribution without > actually > > > applying the filter. that being said, it would be nice to display 3 > > numbers > > > with the silders, the count of items that were filtered out on the > lower > > and > > > upper boundaries as well as the number of items still left (*). > > > > > > aside from this i just put a little tweak to my facetting online: > > > http://search.un-informed.org/search?q=malaria&tm=any&s=Search > > > > > > if you deselect any of the checkboxes, it updates the counts. however i > > > display both the count without and with those additional checkbox > filters > > > applied (actually i only display two numbers of they are not the same): > > > http://screencast.com/t/MWUzYWZkY2Yt > > > > > > regards, > > > Lukas Kahwe Smith > > > m...@pooteeweet.org > > > > > > (*) if anyone has a slider that can do the above i would love to > > integrate > > > that and replace the adoption year checkboxes with that > > >
