Ah, yeah, if you're using a different route field it's highly likely
that's the issue.
I was always against that "feature", and this thread demonstrates part
of the problem (complicating clients, including us human clients
trying to make sense of what's going on).

-Yonik


On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Chris Ulicny <culicny@iq.media> wrote:
> Speaking of routing, I realized I completely forgot to add the routing
> setup to the test cloud, so it probably has something to do with the issue.
> I'll add that in and report back.
>
> So the routing and uniqueKey setup is as follows:
>
> Schema setup:
> <uniqueKey>iqdocid</uniqueKey> <field name="iqroutingkey" type="string"
> multiValued="false" indexed="true" required="true" stored="true"/> <field
> name="iqdocid" type="string" multiValued="false" indexed="true" required=
> "true" stored="true"/>
>
> I don't think it's mentioned in the documentation about using routerField
> for the compositeId router, but based on the resolution of SOLR-5017
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-5017>, we decided to use the
> compositeId router with routerField set to 'iqroutingkey' which is using
> the "!" notation. In general, the iqroutingkey field is of the form:
> <GUID>!<Year>!<iqdocid_value>
>
> Unless I misunderstood what was changed with that patch, that form should
> still route appropriately, and it seems that it has distributed the
> documents appropriately from our basic testing.
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:42 AM David Hastings <hastings.recurs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> i still would like to see an experiment where you change the field to id
> instead of iqdocid,
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Yonik Seeley <ysee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Something to do with routing perhaps? (the mapping of ids to shards,
>> by default is based on hashes of the id)
>> -Yonik
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Chris Ulicny <culicny@iq.media> wrote:
>> > iqdocid is already set to be the uniqueKey value.
>> >
>> > I tried reindexing a few documents back into the problematic cloud and
> am
>> > getting the same behavior of no document found for get handler.
>> >
>> > I've also done some testing on standalone instances as well as some
> quick
>> > cloud setups (with embedded zk), and I cannot seem to replicate the
>> > problem. For each test, I used the exact same configset that is causing
>> the
>> > issue for us and indexed a document from that instance as well. I can
>> > provide more details if that would be useful in anyway.
>> >
>> > Standalone instance worked
>> > Cloud mode worked regardless of the use of the security plugin
>> > Cloud mode worked regardless of explicit get handler definition
>> > Cloud mode consistently worked with explicitly defining the get handler,
>> > then removing it and reloading the collection
>> >
>> > The only differences that I know of between the tests and the
> problematic
>> > cloud is that solr is running as a different user and using an external
>> > zookeeper ensemble. The running user has ownership of the solr
>> > installation, log, and data directories.
>> >
>> > I'm going to keep trying different setups to see if I can replicate the
>> > issue, but if anyone has any ideas on what direction might make the most
>> > sense, please let me know.
>> >
>> > Thanks again
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 5:49 PM Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Wait... Is iqdocid set to the <uniqueKey> in your schema? That might
>> > be the missing thing.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Chris Ulicny <culicny@iq.media> wrote:
>> >> Unless the behavior's changed on the way to version 6.3.0, the get
>> handler
>> >> used to use whatever field is set to be the uniqueKey. We have
>> > successfully
>> >> been using get on a 4.9.0 standalone core with no explicit "id" field
>> >> defined by passing in the value for the uniqueKey field to the get
>> > handler.
>> >> We tend to have a bunch of id fields floating around from different
>> >> sources, so we avoid keeping any of them named as "id"
>> >>
>> >> iqdocid is just a basic string type
>> >> <field name="iqdocid" type="string" multiValued="false" indexed="true"
>> >> required="true" stored="true"/>
>> >>
>> >> I'll do some more testing on standalone versions, and see how that
> goes.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 1:52 PM David Hastings <
>> > hastings.recurs...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> from your previous email:
>> >>> "There is no "id"
>> >>> field defined in the schema."
>> >>>
>> >>> you need an id field to use the get handler
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Chris Ulicny <culicny@iq.media>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > I thought that "id" and "ids" were fixed parameters for the get
>> > handler,
>> >>> > but I never remember, so I've already tried both. Each time it comes
>> > back
>> >>> > with the same response of no document.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 1:31 PM Alexandre Rafalovitch <
>> >>> arafa...@gmail.com>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > > Actually.....
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > I think Real Time Get handler has "id" as a magical parameter, not
>> as
>> >>> > > a field name. It maps to the real id field via the uniqueKey
>> >>> > > definition:
>> >>> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/RealTime+Get
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > So, if you have not, could you try the way you originally wrote
> it.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Regards,
>> >>> > >    Alex.
>> >>> > > ----
>> >>> > > http://www.solr-start.com/ - Resources for Solr users, new and
>> >>> > experienced
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > On 15 March 2017 at 13:22, Chris Ulicny <culicny@iq.media> wrote:
>> >>> > > > Sorry, that is a typo. The get is using the iqdocid field. There
>> is
>> >>> no
>> >>> > > "id"
>> >>> > > > field defined in the schema.
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > solr/TestCollection/get?iqdocid=2957-TV-201604141900
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > solr/TestCollection/select?q=*:*&fq=iqdocid:2957-TV-201604141900
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 1:15 PM Erick Erickson <
>> >>> > erickerick...@gmail.com>
>> >>> > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > >> Is this a typo or are you trying to use get with an "id" field
>> and
>> >>> > > >> your filter query uses "iqdocid"?
>> >>> > > >>
>> >>> > > >> Best,
>> >>> > > >> Erick
>> >>> > > >>
>> >>> > > >> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Chris Ulicny <culicny@iq.media
>> >
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> > > >> > Yes, we're using a fixed schema with the iqdocid field set as
>> > the
>> >>> > > >> uniqueKey.
>> >>> > > >> >
>> >>> > > >> > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 11:28 AM Alexandre Rafalovitch <
>> >>> > > >> arafa...@gmail.com>
>> >>> > > >> > wrote:
>> >>> > > >> >
>> >>> > > >> >> What is your uniqueKey? Is it iqdocid?
>> >>> > > >> >>
>> >>> > > >> >> Regards,
>> >>> > > >> >>    Alex.
>> >>> > > >> >> ----
>> >>> > > >> >> http://www.solr-start.com/ - Resources for Solr users, new
>> and
>> >>> > > >> experienced
>> >>> > > >> >>
>> >>> > > >> >>
>> >>> > > >> >> On 15 March 2017 at 11:24, Chris Ulicny <culicny@iq.media>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > > >> >> > Hi,
>> >>> > > >> >> >
>> >>> > > >> >> > I've been trying to use the get handler for a new solr
>> cloud
>> >>> > > >> collection
>> >>> > > >> >> we
>> >>> > > >> >> > are using, and something seems to be amiss.
>> >>> > > >> >> >
>> >>> > > >> >> > We are running 6.3.0, so we did not explicitly define the
>> >>> request
>> >>> > > >> handler
>> >>> > > >> >> > in the solrconfig since it's supposed to be implicitly
>> > defined.
>> >>> > We
>> >>> > > >> also
>> >>> > > >> >> > have the update log enabled with the default
> configuration.
>> >>> > > >> >> >
>> >>> > > >> >> > Whenever I send a get query for a document already known
> to
>> > be
>> >>> in
>> >>> > > the
>> >>> > > >> >> > collection, I get no documents returned. But when I use a
>> >>> filter
>> >>> > > >> query on
>> >>> > > >> >> > the uniqueKey field for the same value I get the document
>> > back
>> >>> > > >> >> >
>> >>> > > >> >> > solr/TestCollection/get?id=2957-TV-201604141900
>> >>> > > >> >> >
>> >>> > > >> >> >
>> >>> solr/TestCollection/select?q=*:*&fq=iqdocid:2957-TV-201604141900
>> >>> > > >> >> >
>> >>> > > >> >> > Is there some configuration that I am missing?
>> >>> > > >> >> >
>> >>> > > >> >> > Thanks,
>> >>> > > >> >> > Chris
>> >>> > > >> >>
>> >>> > > >>
>> >>> > >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>>

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