On 9/15/2016 8:24 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch wrote:
> The WIKI may be an official community-contributing forum, but its
> technological implementation has gotten so bad it is impossible to
> update. Every time I change the page, it takes minutes (and feels like
> hours) for the update to come through. No clue what to do about that
> though.
Interestingly, even though it takes several minutes for the change
request to finish, the wiki actually updates almost immediately after
pushing the button. The page load (and the resulting email to the
mailing list) just takes forever. I discovered this by looking at the
page in another tab while waiting for the page load to get done.
As I understand it, MoinMoin is entirely filesystem-based, a typical
config doesn't use a database. Apache has a LOT of MoinMoin installs
running on wiki.apache.org. I think the performance woes are a case of
a technology that's not scalable enough for how it's being used.
> I feel that it would be cool to have a live tutorial. Perhaps a
> special collection that, when bootstrapped from, provides tutorial,
> supporting data, smart interface to play with that data against that
> same instance, etc. It could also have a static read-only export, but
> the default experience should be interactive ("bin/solr start -e
> tutorial" or even "bin/solr start -e
> http://www.example.com/tutorial";....).
That is an interesting idea. I can envision a tutorial example, a
canned source directory for indexing data into it, and a third volume of
documentation, specifically for learning with that index. It could
include a section on changing the schema, reindexing, and seeing how
those changes affect indexing and queries.
> And it should be something that very strongly focuses on teaching new
> users to fish, not just use the variety of seafood Solr comes with. A
> narrative showing how different parts of Solr come together and how to
> troubleshoot those, as opposed to taking each element (e.g. Query
> Parser) individually and covering them super-comprehensively. That
> last one is perfect in the reference guide, but less than friendly to
> a beginner.
Yes, yes, yes.
Thanks,
Shawn
