Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Ben Klein
2009/6/26 Vitaliy Margolen : > Ken Sharp wrote: >> Because the AppDB isn't supposed to be a forum. > Who said that? It was _the_ only "official forum" long before > forum.winehq.org came to be. But now there *is* forum.winehq.org. AppDB isn't a forum (at least, not any more). >> I can see no usef

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-25 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
wrote: Yesterday I edited http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/FAQs to be much less outdated than before and today I found that Dmitry Timoshkov removed all references to Mike Kronenberg's Wine binary distribution at http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ The explanation is here: http://wiki.winehq.org

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Sharp
Remco wrote: I maintain two apps. I haven't updated their status in months. Yet, I'm not removed. Apparently, this is because no other people added something to these pages either. The problem, as I see it, is with the job of maintainer. It's really two jobs in one: you're a moderator of user

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Tom Wickline
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Ken Sharp wrote: > > Of course this guy agrees, he's been removed for being idle! And when I did have the free time to submit, I had removed... Who's loss is it? Wine users! Thanks to your rm -rf if they dont agree with me script :) Cheers, Tom

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Remco
I maintain two apps. I haven't updated their status in months. Yet, I'm not removed. Apparently, this is because no other people added something to these pages either. The problem, as I see it, is with the job of maintainer. It's really two jobs in one: you're a moderator of user contributions, an

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Sharp
Austin English wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: Ken Sharp wrote: Because it's bloody obvious or THEY [comments] WOULDN'T BE REMOVED LONG BEFORE I STARTED DOING IT. I've never seen anything on wine-devel / wine-forum / winehq.org front page / wiki about removing

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Austin English
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > Ken Sharp wrote: >> Because it's bloody obvious or THEY [comments] WOULDN'T BE REMOVED LONG >> BEFORE I >> STARTED DOING IT. > > I've never seen anything on wine-devel / wine-forum / winehq.org front page > / wiki about removing old commen

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Ken Sharp wrote: > > > Vitaliy Margolen wrote: >> Ken Sharp wrote: >>> There were 300 comments, all removed. >> Say what? I got only 9 messages of removed comments. > > That's because you still don't understand how the emails are sent. We > went through this last time you had a rant and nobody

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Sharp
Tom Wickline wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Vitaliy Margolen mailto:wine-de...@kievinfo.com>> wrote: I'm still asking to remove Ken Sharp from AppDB admins. This behavior is totally unacceptable. Removing user comments just because Ken doesn't like them is not a v

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Ken Sharp wrote: > Because it's bloody obvious or THEY [comments] WOULDN'T BE REMOVED LONG > BEFORE I > STARTED DOING IT. I've never seen anything on wine-devel / wine-forum / winehq.org front page / wiki about removing old comments until one day I got 100 or so notifications of comments removed

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Tom Wickline
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > > I'm still asking to remove Ken Sharp from AppDB admins. This behavior is > totally unacceptable. Removing user comments just because Ken doesn't like > them is not a valid reason. +1

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
mellery wrote: > He has removed useful comments on apps I maintain too. I don't want to > complain on the dev-list but if you know who i should email about it, > I'd send an email. This is the only place that you can/should discuss this. Vitaliy

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Sharp
Vitaliy Margolen wrote: Ken Sharp wrote: There were 300 comments, all removed. Say what? I got only 9 messages of removed comments. That's because you still don't understand how the emails are sent. We went through this last time you had a rant and nobody took any notice because you're k

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Ken Sharp wrote: > Hardly, you spend most days arguing on Bugzilla, where comments can not > be removed, so stop trying to play the victim. I'm asking again, what are the basis to your removal of comments? Spec them or you can not blame someone for not doing something that's not even written down a

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Sharp
John Klehm wrote: No doubt it's a good thing to keep the appdb information up to date and clean out inactive accounts. However it seems that if someone wants to do the work why should we have a policy to prevent them from participating according to the time their life allots? Last I checked w

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Sharp
Vitaliy Margolen wrote: Ken Sharp wrote: Because the AppDB isn't supposed to be a forum. Who said that? It was _the_ only "official forum" long before forum.winehq.org came to be. I can see no useful reason for keeping old comments I can name several reasons: 1. Apps that don't change much

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Ken Sharp wrote: > There were 300 comments, all removed. Say what? I got only 9 messages of removed comments. Where are your 300? And why did you remove all those comments??? Did you asked me or anyone is it ok to remove them? Did you bother to discuss this with anyone? I'm still asking to remove

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread John Klehm
No doubt it's a good thing to keep the appdb information up to date and clean out inactive accounts. However it seems that if someone wants to do the work why should we have a policy to prevent them from participating according to the time their life allots? Last I checked we werent over staffed

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Ken Sharp wrote: > Because the AppDB isn't supposed to be a forum. Who said that? It was _the_ only "official forum" long before forum.winehq.org came to be. > I can see no useful reason for keeping old comments I can name several reasons: 1. Apps that don't change much and old problems still exit

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Sharp
Vitaliy Margolen wrote: Ken Sharp wrote: Agreed, but in this case it is a moot point. The particular application, Steam, often has test results waiting for > 8 days, so all FIFTEEN idle maintainers would have been removed long before I had to do it manually, had the automatic deletion mechanis

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Ken Sharp wrote: > Agreed, but in this case it is a moot point. > The particular application, Steam, often has test results waiting for > > 8 days, so all FIFTEEN idle maintainers would have been removed long > before I had to do it manually, had the automatic deletion mechanism > been working. Th

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Ken Sharp wrote: > > > Ricardo Filipe wrote: > >> on this particular case i feel ken and vitaly should have communicated >> more to understand each others points of view and reach a consensus. >> although i can totally see why ken decided to remove him from >> maintainer this should not be done

Re: Strange issue with recv in Launchpad Enhanced

2009-06-25 Thread Erich Hoover
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Erich Hoover wrote: > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Erich Hoover wrote: > >> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Damjan Jovanovic >> wrote: >> >>> ... >>> >> Maybe the memory is writable but not readable, and >>> WSARecvFrom()/recv() is reading it while memcpy(

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Ben Klein
2009/6/26 Susan Cragin : > Version 9 should be entirely deleted. That refers to the early 9.0 Preferred > release, which is not available any more. 9.0 Preferred has been replaced by > 9.5 Preferred, which is garbage like Standard. We should not have people > buying DNS 9 Preferred  and thinking it

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-25 Thread Austin English
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:56 AM, wrote: > Hi, > > Yesterday I edited http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/FAQs to be much less > outdated than before and today I found that Dmitry Timoshkov removed all > references to Mike Kronenberg's Wine binary distribution at > http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ >

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-25 Thread Juan Lang
Greetings Jörg, > Yesterday I edited http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/FAQs to be much less > outdated than before and today I found that Dmitry Timoshkov removed all > references to Mike Kronenberg's Wine binary distribution at > http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ > > This is unappropriate censors

Re: [5/10] d3dx9: Implement D3DXLoadSurfaceFromSurface

2009-06-25 Thread Stefan Dösinger
Am Thursday 25 June 2009 20:26:01 schrieb Tony Wasserka: Watch out, some surfaces aren't lockable. I don't know the d3dx9 api too well, but are you sure that you have a lockable surface here? In some situations IDirect3DDevice9::UpdateSurface or IDirect3DDevice9::StretchRect may be a faster way

why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-25 Thread Joerg-Cyril.Hoehle
Hi, Yesterday I edited http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/FAQs to be much less outdated than before and today I found that Dmitry Timoshkov removed all references to Mike Kronenberg's Wine binary distribution at http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ This is unappropriate censorship to me. http://wiki.w

Re: drmclien: add stub dll

2009-06-25 Thread Austin English
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:55 AM, Stefan Leichter wrote: > Am Thursday 25 June 2009 00:47:59 schrieb Austin English: >> Makes IE6 installer a little happier > > >> 0002-t2embed-add-stub-dll.txt >> From 6b2a780718210b35cff17f519559a2c8faa80a07 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 >> From: Austin English >> Date

Re: wine-devel Digest, Vol 47, Issue 86

2009-06-25 Thread Juan Lang
> You sound like the troll to me. Let's try to avoid name-calling, please. I know you weren't the first to do so in this thread, but enough is enough. We try to be relatively professional here. Thanks, --Juan

Re: wine-devel Digest, Vol 47, Issue 86

2009-06-25 Thread Tim Schwartz
> And Ben Klein is not the VOICE of WineHQ! > > Tom It doesn't matter who says something if what they are saying is correct. You sound like the troll to me.

Re: ActiveX support in IE7

2009-06-25 Thread Steven Edwards
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Ben Klein wrote: > This website is plagued by out of date and incorrect information. It > is not endorsed, supported, or recommended by WineHQ (someone correct > me if I'm wrong). Up-to-date information *should* be available on the > AppDB. Heh right I know, God fo

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Susan Cragin
With regard to Dragon NaturallySpeaking, I have the following comments. Version 5 is still for sale, especially overseas, and is VERY cheap. It's ancient, and of poor quality, but someone still might want to use it.  The only test is recent. I'd keep this as is. Version 7 ALL the comments are obsol

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Sharp
Niklas Hambüchen wrote: Sjors Gielen wrote: If you meant, why should they be deleted instead of kept for reference; there could be an archive, but currently they are deleted, afaik. Why don't you just save an outdated: true/false information? Those posts could just be not displayed by defaul

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Niklas Hambüchen
Sjors Gielen wrote: > If you meant, why should they be deleted instead of kept for reference; > there could be an archive, but currently they are deleted, afaik. Why don't you just save an outdated: true/false information? Those posts could just be not displayed by default, but if someone ever nee

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Austin English
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Henri Verbeet wrote: > 2009/6/25 Ken Sharp : >> To give a scale of the problem: >> There are approx. 7700 program in the appdb. >> There are approx 21,730 comments going back to 2004. >> If it's not the maintainer's job to make sure the comments aren't tidied up, >>

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Sjors Gielen
Henri Verbeet wrote: > 2009/6/25 Ken Sharp : >> To give a scale of the problem: >> There are approx. 7700 program in the appdb. >> There are approx 21,730 comments going back to 2004. >> If it's not the maintainer's job to make sure the comments aren't tidied up, >> whose is it? >> >> I'm not the o

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Sharp
Henri Verbeet wrote: 2009/6/25 Ken Sharp : To give a scale of the problem: There are approx. 7700 program in the appdb. There are approx 21,730 comments going back to 2004. If it's not the maintainer's job to make sure the comments aren't tidied up, whose is it? I'm not the only admin cleanin

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Henri Verbeet
2009/6/25 Ken Sharp : > To give a scale of the problem: > There are approx. 7700 program in the appdb. > There are approx 21,730 comments going back to 2004. > If it's not the maintainer's job to make sure the comments aren't tidied up, > whose is it? > > I'm not the only admin cleaning up comments

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Sharp
Ricardo Filipe wrote: on this particular case i feel ken and vitaly should have communicated more to understand each others points of view and reach a consensus. although i can totally see why ken decided to remove him from maintainer this should not be done lightly. Ken asked Vitaliy to d

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Sharp
Rosanne DiMesio wrote: If there has been a recent discussion amongst the admins as to when it is appropriate to remove maintainers, I was left out of it. The only official policy I know of is tied to the failure to process test reports within a week, and the automatic mechanism for doing that i

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Ricardo Filipe
2009/6/25 Rosanne DiMesio > On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:41:39 +0100 > Ken Sharp wrote: > > > There were 300 comments, all removed. I asked you to do this, between > > 15 maintainers, and you couldn't be bothered. That is why you were > removed. > > > > Doing nothing is no help to anyone, as you hav

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Rosanne DiMesio
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:41:39 +0100 Ken Sharp wrote: > There were 300 comments, all removed. I asked you to do this, between > 15 maintainers, and you couldn't be bothered. That is why you were removed. > > Doing nothing is no help to anyone, as you have already been told, many > times. > >

Re: Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Sharp
There were 300 comments, all removed. I asked you to do this, between 15 maintainers, and you couldn't be bothered. That is why you were removed. Doing nothing is no help to anyone, as you have already been told, many times. Yet you're the only one complaining. Amazing. Vitaliy Margolen w

Removing active maintainers

2009-06-25 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Why did someone removed active maintainers from most active applications? Do you guys even care who active who not? I was the only one doing _anything_ on Steam AppDB entry. And I was removed by Ken Sharp because he didn't like 9 "oldish" posts??? WTH? This got to stop! If someone doesn't like ol

Re: ActiveX support in IE7

2009-06-25 Thread Tom Wickline
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Ben Klein wrote: > > > This doesn't look like a correction to me. > Your post looks like a troll to me :) Tom

Re: ActiveX support in IE7

2009-06-25 Thread Ben Klein
2009/6/25 Tom Wickline : > Everything in life becomes out of date after a little time passes by. > > Geez, I guess I should post about every little change that happens? Yes, you should. Wine development releases are moving targets. WineHQ's user support system should not have to deal with off-site

Re: Intermittent crashes in the ole32:clipboard tests

2009-06-25 Thread Paul Vriens
Paul Vriens wrote: Hi Huw, I'm having (and more systems according to test.winehq.org) intermittent crashes in these mentioned tests. It is happening in the while() loop in test_enum_fmtetc(), at least for W2K and XP. I'm able to reproduce on W2K (once every 10 runs or so) but I can't put my fi

Re: winedbg italian translation

2009-06-25 Thread Paul Vriens
Nikolay Sivov wrote: Davide Pizzetti wrote: Here's the italian translation for winedbg This is wrong of course - you broke English resource file. You need to create a new file here with same naming convention (rsrc_It.rc) and 'git add' it to your tree before commit. And don't forget t

Re: winedbg italian translation

2009-06-25 Thread Nikolay Sivov
Davide Pizzetti wrote: Here's the italian translation for winedbg This is wrong of course - you broke English resource file. You need to create a new file here with same naming convention (rsrc_It.rc) and 'git add' it to your tree before commit.

Re: [1/8] windowscodecs: add stub implementation of IWICImagingFactory

2009-06-25 Thread Alexandre Julliard
"Vincent Povirk" writes: > +HRESULT register_classes(void) > +{ > +int i; > +HKEY clsid_key, ips32_key; > +LONG res=0; > +HRESULT hr=S_OK; > +static const WCHAR inprocserver32W[] = > {'I','n','P','r','o','c','S','e','r','v','e','r','3','2',0}; > + > +for (i=0; wic_classes

Re: cmdlgtst italian translation

2009-06-25 Thread Nikolay Sivov
Davide Pizzetti wrote: Here's the italian translation for cmdlgtst - MENUITEM "Pa&ge Setup", CM_U_PAGESETUP + MENUITEM "Installazione Pa&gina", CM_U_PAGESETUP } Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like you treated this as 'installation page', but it really means 'print page setup' - p

Re: AW: Shameless call for game testing

2009-06-25 Thread Stefan Dösinger
Am Thursday 25 June 2009 11:45:19 schrieb joerg-cyril.hoe...@t-systems.com: > Stefan, > > >Generally, turning off GLSL turns down the advertised shader > >model to 1.x, which is the d3d8 feature set. > > Is this still the case since your mail > http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2009-June/0

Re: ActiveX support in IE7

2009-06-25 Thread Tom Wickline
Everything in life becomes out of date after a little time passes by. Geez, I guess I should post about every little change that happens? And Ben Klein is not the VOICE of WineHQ! Tom On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Ben Klein wrote: > 2009/6/25 arcoun : > > Hello, > > > > It is my understand

Re: ActiveX support in IE7

2009-06-25 Thread Ben Klein
2009/6/25 arcoun : > Hello, > > It is my understanding that IE7 installed in Wine (for exemple, by following > instructions at > http://www.wine-reviews.net/wine-reviews/applications/ie-7-on-linux-with-wine.html) > has no support for ActiveX. This website is plagued by out of date and incorrect in

Re: wined3d: fix a compiler warning

2009-06-25 Thread Michael Stefaniuc
Ben Klein wrote: > 2009/6/24 Michael Stefaniuc : >> Pierre Bourdon wrote: >>> I think what Michael meant is that >>> sprintf(a, "%s", b); >>> >>> is doing exactly the same thing as >>> strcpy(a, b); >> Right, that's what I meant. >> >>> in a less efficient way. >> I'm not that much concerne

Re: mshtml: Add slovenian transtaltion

2009-06-25 Thread Paul Vriens
Matej Spindler wrote: My first patch to wine. Am I doing this right? Hi Matej, Looks fine to me although I can't comment on the actual translations ;) Thanks for helping Wine and looking forward to more translation pa

Re: ActiveX support in IE7

2009-06-25 Thread Aric Stewart
Hello, I have been working in this area for the last several days. It is actually greatly improving. I think the bulk of the remaining work is in the wintrust area to correctly validate the downloaded cabinet files. Then the prompting of the user to install these files. With some of my pendi

ActiveX support in IE7

2009-06-25 Thread arcoun
Hello, It is my understanding that IE7 installed in Wine (for exemple, by following instructions at http://www.wine-reviews.net/wine-reviews/applications/ie-7-on-linux-with-wine.html) has no support for ActiveX. Does anyone know what are the missing parts (in Wine or by adding more native DLLs) t

Re: drmclien: add stub dll

2009-06-25 Thread Stefan Leichter
Am Thursday 25 June 2009 00:47:59 schrieb Austin English: > Makes IE6 installer a little happier > 0002-t2embed-add-stub-dll.txt > From 6b2a780718210b35cff17f519559a2c8faa80a07 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: Austin English > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:52:37 -0500 > Subject: [PATCH] t2embed: add