Re: UNS: Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 6/30/2011 10:46 AM, Andreas Krey wrote: >> >> On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:09:43 +, Les Mikesell wrote: >> ... >>> >>> A backup made in an inconsistent state should exactly resemble the disk >>> files if the system lost power or crashed for

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Les Mikesell wrote on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 13:56:27 -0500: > On 6/30/2011 1:15 PM, Andreas Krey wrote: > >On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:35:17 +, Les Mikesell wrote: > >... > >>I think you are being way too optimistic about real-world filesystems > >>and disk and controller caches. It is possible to m

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/30/2011 1:15 PM, Andreas Krey wrote: On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:35:17 +, Les Mikesell wrote: ... I think you are being way too optimistic about real-world filesystems and disk and controller caches. It is possible to make a system that behaves with the ideal behavior you describe - and may

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Andreas Krey
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:35:17 +, Les Mikesell wrote: ... > I think you are being way too optimistic about real-world filesystems > and disk and controller caches. It is possible to make a system that > behaves with the ideal behavior you describe - and maybe many do in > terms of the filenam

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Les Mikesell wrote on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:26:36 -0500: > On 6/30/2011 10:39 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > > >>>Read the attached issue. FSFS on 1.7 is affected --- specifically, > >>>revprops.db, which contains the only copy of revprops of packed > >>>revisions. > >> > >>A backup made in an inc

Re: UNS: Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/30/2011 10:46 AM, Andreas Krey wrote: On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:09:43 +, Les Mikesell wrote: ... A backup made in an inconsistent state should exactly resemble the disk files if the system lost power or crashed for another reason at that point. No, backups can contain inconsistencies tha

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/30/2011 10:39 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Read the attached issue. FSFS on 1.7 is affected --- specifically, revprops.db, which contains the only copy of revprops of packed revisions. A backup made in an inconsistent state should exactly resemble the disk files if the system lost power or

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Henrik Sundberg
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > A backup made in an inconsistent state should exactly resemble the disk > files if the system lost power or crashed for another reason at that point. I don't think so. SVN files are written in a specific order known by hotcopy. The result of

Re: UNS: Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Andreas Krey
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:09:43 +, Les Mikesell wrote: ... > A backup made in an inconsistent state should exactly resemble the disk > files if the system lost power or crashed for another reason at that > point. No, backups can contain inconsistencies that are impossible to create with a serve

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
kmra...@rockwellcollins.com wrote on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:03:52 -0500: > Daniel Shahaf wrote on 06/30/2011 09:24:56 AM: > > kmra...@rockwellcollins.com wrote on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 09:06:28 > -0500: > > > Daniel Shahaf wrote on 06/30/2011 07:35:36 > AM: > > > > I'm going to say this even mo

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Les Mikesell wrote on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:09:43 -0500: > On 6/30/2011 9:22 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > > >>>I'm going to say this even more clearly: > >>> > >>>If you backup a repository by copying its files while a server is > >>>running, the backup may be created corrupted. > >>> > >>>http:/

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/30/2011 9:22 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: I'm going to say this even more clearly: If you backup a repository by copying its files while a server is running, the backup may be created corrupted. http://subversion.apache.org/docs/release-notes/1.7#single-db (sic) This does not seem point to

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread kmradke
Daniel Shahaf wrote on 06/30/2011 09:24:56 AM: > kmra...@rockwellcollins.com wrote on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 09:06:28 -0500: > > Daniel Shahaf wrote on 06/30/2011 07:35:36 AM: > > > I'm going to say this even more clearly: > > > > > > If you backup a repository by copying its files while a serve

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
kmra...@rockwellcollins.com wrote on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 09:06:28 -0500: > Daniel Shahaf wrote on 06/30/2011 07:35:36 AM: > > I'm going to say this even more clearly: > > > > If you backup a repository by copying its files while a server is > > running, the backup may be created corrupted. > >

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
kmra...@rockwellcollins.com wrote on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 09:06:28 -0500: > Daniel Shahaf wrote on 06/30/2011 07:35:36 AM: > > I'm going to say this even more clearly: > > > > If you backup a repository by copying its files while a server is > > running, the backup may be created corrupted. > >

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread kmradke
Daniel Shahaf wrote on 06/30/2011 07:35:36 AM: > I'm going to say this even more clearly: > > If you backup a repository by copying its files while a server is > running, the backup may be created corrupted. > > http://subversion.apache.org/docs/release-notes/1.7#single-db (sic) This does not s

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 08:59:10 -0400: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Erik Huelsmann wrote: > > Hi Waseem, > > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Waseem Bokhari > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Guys! > >> > >>   We are using 3rd party software that take (Cop

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Erik Huelsmann wrote: > Hi Waseem, > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Waseem Bokhari > wrote: >> >> Hi Guys! >> >>   We are using 3rd party software that take (Copy/Paste) >> Backup of all databases of SVN on differential basis. I have some conf

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/30/11 12:21 AM, Thorsten Schöning wrote: In general, I would advice not using third party software, too. svnsync works on a differential basis as only fully commits get synced. If your third party software would be a good tool for backup, it would not have a problem with ADS in my opinion.

Re: Taking mirror Backup of SVN Repos through 3rd Party Software

2011-06-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
I'm going to say this even more clearly: If you backup a repository by copying its files while a server is running, the backup may be created corrupted. http://subversion.apache.org/docs/release-notes/1.7#single-db (sic) Erik Huelsmann wrote on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 18:27:31 +0200: > Hi Waseem,

Re: Different subsets in the same directory

2011-06-30 Thread Tino Schwarze
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 09:11:46PM +0200, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > Say I have 5 sets of shell-scripts (A, B, C, D and E). On one computer > I want all in ~/bin, on another I want A and B in ~/bin, on another I > want A, C and D in ~/bin, etc. > Is there a best practise to do this, or should I make

Re: granting partial read access

2011-06-30 Thread Tino Schwarze
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 01:14:49PM +0200, Tino Schwarze wrote: > Of course, this makes using Subclipse et al a bit cumbersome since you > cannot just browse the repo. It would be nice to have non-recursive > rights - that way, I could grant "r" to / and /customerA to theguy and > he would be able

Re: granting partial read access

2011-06-30 Thread Tino Schwarze
Hi Bob, On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 02:15:39PM -0400, Bob Archer wrote: > > Given the following structure: > > > > /customerA/projA/ > > /customerA/projB/ > > /customerA/projC/ > > ... > > /customerB/projX/ > > /customerB/projY/ > > ... > > > > Is there an easy way to grant someone rw-access to /cus