Re: No longer getting mail on Fedora mailing list

2025-07-03 Thread Francis Montagnac via users
Hi. On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 12:36:40 -0500 Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: > I appear to have this strange problem from this morning, in that I > am able to post, but do not receive email from the Fedora mailing > list. I bet this is due to: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/less-than-2-wee

Re: No longer getting mail on Fedora mailing list [SOLVED?]

2025-07-02 Thread Ranjan Maitra via users
On Wed Jul02'25 07:52:47PM, Marco Moock wrote: > From: Marco Moock > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2025 19:52:47 +0200 > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > CC: Ranjan Maitra > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: No longer getting mail on Fedora mailing list &

Re: No longer getting mail on Fedora mailing list

2025-07-02 Thread Marco Moock
On 01.07.2025 12:36 Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: > I appear to have this strange problem from this morning, in that I am > able to post, but do not receive email from the Fedora mailing list. > > What could possibly be the problem? I am getting email all right, but > not from the mailing list.

No longer getting mail on Fedora mailing list

2025-07-02 Thread Ranjan Maitra via users
Hi, I appear to have this strange problem from this morning, in that I am able to post, but do not receive email from the Fedora mailing list. What could possibly be the problem? I am getting email all right, but not from the mailing list. Assume this is not a system-wide issue, anyone else ha

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-21 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Garry T. Williams writes: On Sunday, 20 April 2025 17:45:44 EDT Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I estimate that I'll be able to use my setup for no more than 2-3 > years, max, before X11 is sacrificed on the altar of progress, and > latest and greatest. I just updated a workstation to f41 and didn't

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 22:16 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote: > On Sunday, 20 April 2025 17:45:44 EDT Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > I estimate that I'll be able to use my setup for no more than 2-3 > > years, max, before X11 is sacrificed on the altar of progress, and > > latest and greatest. > > I j

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/20/25 10:40 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 22:16 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote: Wayland is still broken as far as I am concerned when it comes to session restore stuff and new window placement. But I notice that I can ssh to that system and run x11 apps (over the local net

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Tim via users
C. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- __

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Tim via users
em. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. --

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Sunday, 20 April 2025 17:45:44 EDT Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I estimate that I'll be able to use my setup for no more than 2-3 > years, max, before X11 is sacrificed on the altar of progress, and > latest and greatest. I just updated a workstation to f41 and didn't install the x11 KDE componen

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 17:45 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > One of the big problems with containers (including Flatpaks) is that > > they don't integrate well with the desktop environment. Then the app > > relies on the DE to (say) print things, there's usually some

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 17:45 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > One of the big problems with containers (including Flatpaks) is that > > they don't integrate well with the desktop environment. Then the app > > relies on the DE to (say) print things, there's usually some jumping > > through hoops to b

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: On 04/20/2025 06:14 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I think what this is, overall, is watching idiocracy evolve, in realtime. Personally, I've always considered Ubuntu to be designed for Windows refugees. They want to get away from the built in problems of Windows but don't

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 08:14 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > The Firefox snap in Ubuntu doesn't even start in a VNC session. Everyone > appears to be ok with fiddling with environment variables, in order to do > that. Nobody appears to believe that there's something

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Tim via users
. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- _

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/20/2025 06:14 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I think what this is, overall, is watching idiocracy evolve, in realtime. Personally, I've always considered Ubuntu to be designed for Windows refugees. They want to get away from the built in problems of Windows but don't want to learn how to

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 08:14 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Tim via users writes: > > > 3) Thanks to sandboxing, or just plain lack of functionality, > >we get apps that can't print, for instance. > > > > I've got ones that can't, I have to print to PDF, then find something > > else to print

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim via users writes: 3) Thanks to sandboxing, or just plain lack of functionality, we get apps that can't print, for instance. I've got ones that can't, I have to print to PDF, then find something else to print that PDF (which will fail when they eventually appimage the whatever that prints

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Tim via users
to print from the app, it goes through the motions without error messages but does nothing. Or, it cannot print to/through CUPS, it has to find the printer directly using ZeroConf (hostname.local) instead of using the fully- functional DNS system on the LAN, and will only print that way. --

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2025-04-19 at 17:07 +, Bob Marčan via users wrote: > On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 09:11:16 -0300 > "George N. White III" wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 10:32 PM Tim via users > > wrote: > > On Fri, 2025-04-18 at 18:38 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > > > This malarkey is up there wit

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-19 Thread Bob Marčan via users
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 09:11:16 -0300 "George N. White III" wrote: > On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 10:32 PM Tim via users > wrote: > On Fri, 2025-04-18 at 18:38 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > This malarkey is up there with we can't have /usr in a separate mount > > point, any more, because we've put

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-19 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 10:32 PM Tim via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Fri, 2025-04-18 at 18:38 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > I forgot what were the actual, technical reasons for collapsing bin > > and sbin, except for "other distributions did it too". But the deed > > is

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim via users writes: Hell, why don't just we just dump *everything* into one huge directory? That's make it really easy to manage (not). I get the impression that there's too many un-trained programmers in the world, and much of what they've learned has come from bad examples. This malarkey i

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-18 Thread Tim via users
ve learned has come from bad examples. This malarkey is up there with we can't have /usr in a separate mount point, any more, because we've put things in there that we need at boot time. Well don't bloody do that! -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tu

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Charles Dennett writes: Just wanted to add that I found a bugzilla report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2360491 I predict there's going to be a lot of this, for a year or so. I forgot what were the actual, technical reasons for collapsing bin and sbin, except for "other dis

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-18 Thread Charles Dennett
On 4/18/25 9:36 AM, Charles Dennett wrote: Upgraded my home server/desktop machine yesterday and all seemed ok. When I checked this morning I discovered that output from overnight cron jobs had gone to the journal log rather than being emailed to me.  Also logwatch had failed to run. I quickl

Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-18 Thread Charles Dennett
Upgraded my home server/desktop machine yesterday and all seemed ok. When I checked this morning I discovered that output from overnight cron jobs had gone to the journal log rather than being emailed to me. Also logwatch had failed to run. I quickly checked logwatch first by manually running

changing my e-mail address

2025-03-05 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, How can I change my email address? On this page: https://accounts.fedoraproject.org/user/frpatte/settings/email/ If I enter my email address the answer is: Internal Server Error What can I do? Regards -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR

Being Removed From the Mail List

2024-10-23 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi,     How do I unsubscribe a defunct email address that no longer works? regards, Steve OpenPGP_0x1EBE7C07B0F7242C.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ___ users mailing list -- user

Re: Being Removed From the Mail List

2024-10-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/23/2024 03:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi,     How do I unsubscribe a defunct email address that no longer works? regards, Steve Read the instructions at the bottom of this, and every message from the list. Since the email address in question is defunct, edit the From header in t

Re: Being Removed From the Mail List

2024-10-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/23/24 3:44 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/23/2024 03:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: How do I unsubscribe a defunct email address that no longer works? Read the instructions at the bottom of this, and every message from the list.  Since the email address in question is defunct, edit the Fro

Re: Being Removed From the Mail List

2024-10-23 Thread Charlie Dennett
If the email address is invalid and no longer works, won't mail from the list to it bounce? If so, will the mailing list software automatically remove it after so many bounced messages? Just curious. On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 6:44 PM Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/23/2024 03:43 PM, Stephe

Re: false spam identification on some fedora mail

2024-10-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/10/24 12:20 AM, Tim via users wrote: Tim: While checking on my systems I see that some mail from: List-Id: Fedora Package Announcements Was getting false-flagged as spam, this header indicates the prime reason: 5.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs

Re: false spam identification on some fedora mail

2024-10-10 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > While checking on my systems I see that some mail from: > > > > List-Id: Fedora Package Announcements > > > > > > Was getting false-flagged as spam, this header indicates the prime > > reason: > > > > 5.0 URIBL_BLA

Re: false spam identification on some fedora mail

2024-10-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/9/24 8:45 PM, Tim via users wrote: Hi, While checking on my systems I see that some mail from: List-Id: Fedora Package Announcements Was getting false-flagged as spam, this header indicates the prime reason: 5.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs

false spam identification on some fedora mail

2024-10-09 Thread Tim via users
Hi, While checking on my systems I see that some mail from: List-Id: Fedora Package Announcements Was getting false-flagged as spam, this header indicates the prime reason: 5.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs: datalad.org] -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0

Re: evolution trash mail folder management

2023-03-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2023-03-10 at 04:53 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > After that long ramble, my specific question:  Has anyone discovered > *when* the once per day/week/month purges occur? >   I'd strongly urge you to ask on the Evolution list. The main developer is very responsive and will almost certainly a

evolution trash mail folder management

2023-03-09 Thread Tim via users
Hi, I was trying to find some info about how Evolution automatically purges the trash mail folder, but haven't found any actual details. The documentation is typically vague, barely saying anything further than what you can see in the configuration preference windows. I hate manuals whic

Re: email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-15 Thread Tim via users
eply. > To sum up: read receipts are a misfeature, except in the special case > of internal mail where they are part of corporate policy. I'm reminded of a scene in a tv comedy series about government bureaucracy, where in one episode their email server was down, but they were still

Re: email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-15 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:05 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2022-09-15 at 09:02 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > > Firefox lets you set > > read receipt handling for 3 categories: messages with your address in > > the > > "To" or "Cc", "Sender outside your domain", or "other cases".

Re: email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2022-09-15 at 09:02 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > Firefox lets you set > read receipt handling for 3 categories: messages with your address in > the > "To" or "Cc", "Sender outside your domain", or "other cases". Firefox? Do you mean Thunderbird? poc

Re: email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-15 Thread George N. White III
aning that the > receiver did read the message (let alone understood it). > > To sum up: read receipts are a misfeature, except in the special case > of internal mail where they are part of corporate policy. > In the good old days when SPAM started we were advised to disable re

Re: email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
be interpreted as meaning the receiver has not read the message. They might have turned receipts off. 2. Getting a read receipt cannot be interpreted as meaning that the receiver did read the message (let alone understood it). To sum up: read receipts are a misfeat

Re: email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-14 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 14Sep2022 10:25, Tim wrote: Likewise (and no image loading by default), though I did once have someone tell me that I'd read a message they sent me because they had the receipt. They are a bit of a furphy. I may have glanced at an email, but not read it. I may have a received an email but

Re: email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-14 Thread stan via users
to have the cooperation of the > operating system, or at least the mail client. And, I would think > that open source mail clients don't allow that. Am I right? Thanks to everyone for their responses. It seems I was way behind the curve on this. I finally remembered to do the right thing, and

Re: email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-13 Thread Tim via users
ponses when they're asked to provide receipts to mail they've received. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.76.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 10 16:21:17 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are

Re: email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-13 Thread Tom Horsley
> > claws converts all messages to text, and it takes a plugin to view > > html > > mail.  So, that probably meets this requirement. And I don't have the plugin installed in my claws-mail, so if I really think I want to see an html mail, I can use "open with" (

Re: email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-13 Thread Tim via users
erplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedo

Re: email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-13 Thread dwoody...@rdwoodyard.com
o work, it has to have the cooperation > > > > of > > > > the operating system, or at least the mail client.  And, I would > > > > think that > > > > open source mail clients don't allow that.  Am I right?  > > > > > > AFAIK it

Re: email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
> https://www.vox.com/recode/23332959/email-tracking-privacy > > > and I wondered if that is an issue in fedora.  It seems that in > > > order for such tracking to work, it has to have the cooperation > > > of > > > the operating system, or at least the mai

Re: email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-13 Thread Samuel Sieb
system, or at least the mail client. And, I would think that open source mail clients don't allow that. Am I right? Thunderbird doesn't load images by default. You have to opt-in. I had someone I know that sends out business emails ask me why I don't ever read the emails. I tol

Re: email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-13 Thread stan via users
that is an issue in fedora.  It seems that in > > order for such tracking to work, it has to have the cooperation of > > the operating system, or at least the mail client.  And, I would > > think that > > open source mail clients don't allow that.  Am I right? > &

Re: email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
has to have the cooperation of the > operating system, or at least the mail client.  And, I would think > that > open source mail clients don't allow that.  Am I right? AFAIK it's not an operating system issue as such. Turn off read receipts in your MUA (I've always argued

email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-13 Thread stan via users
Hi, I just saw this article via Pocket in firefox, https://www.vox.com/recode/23332959/email-tracking-privacy and I wondered if that is an issue in fedora. It seems that in order for such tracking to work, it has to have the cooperation of the operating system, or at least the mail client. And

Re: Evolution mail - Maildir format - does it work?

2022-08-12 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2022-08-12 at 08:52 +0100, lejeczek via users wrote: > I have Postfix save to 'Maildir' and Mutt reads it no > problem - shows emails, etc. > But when I create an account in Evolution with "Server Type" > of "Maildir-format mail directories" I

Re: Evolution mail - Maildir format - does it work?

2022-08-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2022-08-12 at 08:52 +0100, lejeczek via users wrote: > Hi guys. > > I have Postfix save to 'Maildir' and Mutt reads it no > problem - shows emails, etc. > But when I create an account in Evolution with "Server Type" > of "Maildir-format mail

Evolution mail - Maildir format - does it work?

2022-08-12 Thread lejeczek via users
Hi guys. I have Postfix save to 'Maildir' and Mutt reads it no problem - shows emails, etc. But when I create an account in Evolution with "Server Type" of "Maildir-format mail directories" I see no emails there - is that not type for Maildir and perhaps Ev

Re: recommendations, pros/cons for Fedora mail clients supporting OAUTH2 with GMail?

2022-06-21 Thread George Avrunin
On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 22:51:48 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I have a Google Workplace, formerly G Suite, account run by my former > university (I'm now retired) and access it via Evolution, which does > fully support OAUTH2. > > poc That's good to know, thanks. George -- George Avrunin

Re: recommendations, pros/cons for Fedora mail clients supporting OAUTH2 with GMail?

2022-06-21 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2022-06-21 at 10:49 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > After several years of tightening budgets and losing support staff > (for context, this was in Venezuela) I managed to persuade the > university to abandon our central mail server > and adopt Google as our provider. &

Re: recommendations, pros/cons for Fedora mail clients supporting OAUTH2 with GMail?

2022-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
me!) who do great work dealing > > with spam, phishing, etc., and I get much less spam on my math > > department account than I do on, say, my account in the CS > > department, which uses a commercial spam blocking service. But > > recently the pressure from University IT to let them

Re: recommendations, pros/cons for Fedora mail clients supporting OAUTH2 with GMail?

2022-06-20 Thread Tim via users
> department account than I do on, say, my account in the CS > department, which uses a commercial spam blocking service. But > recently the pressure from University IT to let them run all mail has > increased to the point where we're basically being forced to shut > down our

Re: recommendations, pros/cons for Fedora mail clients supporting OAUTH2 with GMail?

2022-06-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
> > Gabriel  > > Thanks.  Unfortunately, my university GMail account is part of > GSuites, or > whatever they're calling it now, and even though I can create an app > password, it won't work for logging in to read mail.  This seems to > be a > campus-wide setting tha

Re: recommendations, pros/cons for Fedora mail clients supporting OAUTH2 with GMail?

2022-06-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 6/20/22 12:50, George Avrunin wrote: But the last time I tried Thunderbird, admittedly a fair while ago, I wasn't very happy with it--heavyweight, oriented toward HTML mail, opened too many links, etc. I've been using Thunderbird for at least a decade and like it. As far as ope

Re: recommendations, pros/cons for Fedora mail clients supporting OAUTH2 with GMail?

2022-06-20 Thread George Avrunin
they're calling it now, and even though I can create an app password, it won't work for logging in to read mail. This seems to be a campus-wide setting that the university IT people have made. They are requiring OAUTH2, which uses the campus authentication system, so I won't be a

Re: recommendations, pros/cons for Fedora mail clients supporting OAUTH2 with GMail?

2022-06-20 Thread Gabriel Ramirez via users
on my math department account than I do on, say, my account in the CS department, which uses a commercial spam blocking service. But recently the pressure from University IT to let them run all mail has increased to the point where we're basically being forced to shut down our own mail server

Re: recommendations, pros/cons for Fedora mail clients supporting OAUTH2 with GMail?

2022-06-20 Thread George Avrunin
On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 15:17:40 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > I've always used fetchmail to download all mail from all my accounts > and stuff it in a local IMAP server for me to read with whatever > client I like (currently using claws-mail and dovecot as the server). > That gets me

Re: recommendations, pros/cons for Fedora mail clients supporting OAUTH2 with GMail?

2022-06-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 14:50:36 -0400 George Avrunin wrote: > So I'm looking for other suggestions about what might work I've always used fetchmail to download all mail from all my accounts and stuff it in a local IMAP server for me to read with whatever client I like (currently usi

recommendations, pros/cons for Fedora mail clients supporting OAUTH2 with GMail?

2022-06-20 Thread George Avrunin
, say, my account in the CS department, which uses a commercial spam blocking service. But recently the pressure from University IT to let them run all mail has increased to the point where we're basically being forced to shut down our own mail servers and use theirs, effective around the end of

Re: how to configure smartd to send a mail with ssmtp?

2021-07-29 Thread stan via users
ow how to proceed? Did you look at man smartd.conf. I see the -m and -M configuration options. -m sets the email address and -M exec [path to executable] sets the mail program if it is not the default mail. Is that what you tried? It seems that -M test might be a good addition to see if every

how to configure smartd to send a mail with ssmtp?

2021-07-28 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, I dessperatly try to have smartd sending me an email with ssmtp but it seems to be impossible! There are a lot of environment variables (SMARTD_MAILER, SMARTD_ADDRESS...) but nowhere I found where they could be defined! I tried in file smartd.conf, in smartd_warning.sh, in /usr

Re: Troubles with the claws-mail

2021-06-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 19:00:43 +0200 Bob Marcan wrote: > Creating new user and selecting different WM, solved the problem. You could compare the contents of ~/.claws-mail for new and old users and perhaps find the specific setting that screws it

Re: Troubles with the claws-mail

2021-06-06 Thread Bob Marcan
On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 01:02:36 +0930 Tim via users wrote: Not yet solved, but ... Creating new user and selecting different WM, solved the problem. I'm apologize to disturbing the list. It should be done before i asked for help. Now is my turn. Best regards, Bob ___

Re: Troubles with the claws-mail

2021-06-06 Thread Bob Marcan
On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 01:02:36 +0930 Tim via users wrote: > > Bob Marcan > > Shouldn't the same behavior will be in all the other applications? > > If you've accident set a hotkey in claws-mail, it'll only apply to that > application. And most likely, on

Re: Troubles with the claws-mail

2021-06-06 Thread Tim via users
Angelo >> may be you've unintentionally assigned "k" to some menu item. >> (It's just a matter of pressing a "key" while focusing the item >> with the mouse pointer). Bob Marcan > Shouldn't the same behavior will be in all the other appl

Re: Troubles with the claws-mail

2021-06-06 Thread t_pol
On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 16:31:33 +0200 Bob Marcan wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 15:08:40 +0200 > t_pol wrote: > > > On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 12:00:11 +0200 > > Bob Marcan wrote: > > > > > Fedora 33 up to date (Sun Jun 6 11:47:43 CEST 2021) > > > claws-mai

Re: Troubles with the claws-mail

2021-06-06 Thread Bob Marcan
On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 15:08:40 +0200 t_pol wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 12:00:11 +0200 > Bob Marcan wrote: > > > Fedora 33 up to date (Sun Jun 6 11:47:43 CEST 2021) > > claws-mail-3.17.8-1.fc33.x86_64) > > > > In claws-mail keyboard key "k" is ig

Re: Troubles with the claws-mail

2021-06-06 Thread t_pol
On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 12:00:11 +0200 Bob Marcan wrote: > Fedora 33 up to date (Sun Jun 6 11:47:43 CEST 2021) > claws-mail-3.17.8-1.fc33.x86_64) > > In claws-mail keyboard key "k" is ignored. > Same key is working in all other applications. > So it is not a keyboard

Re: Troubles with the claws-mail

2021-06-06 Thread Bob Marcan
On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 13:42:40 +0200 Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 12:00:11 +0200, Bob Marcan wrote: > > > Fedora 33 up to date (Sun Jun 6 11:47:43 CEST 2021) > > claws-mail-3.17.8-1.fc33.x86_64) > > > > In claws-mail keyboard key "k" is

Re: Troubles with the claws-mail

2021-06-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 12:00:11 +0200, Bob Marcan wrote: > Fedora 33 up to date (Sun Jun 6 11:47:43 CEST 2021) > claws-mail-3.17.8-1.fc33.x86_64) > > In claws-mail keyboard key "k" is ignored. > Same key is working in all other applications. > So it is not a keyboard

Troubles with the claws-mail

2021-06-06 Thread Bob Marcan
Fedora 33 up to date (Sun Jun 6 11:47:43 CEST 2021) claws-mail-3.17.8-1.fc33.x86_64) In claws-mail keyboard key "k" is ignored. Same key is working in all other applications. So it is not a keyboard problem. :-) Does anybody have an idea where is the problem?

Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-28 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2021-01-28 12:13, Matthew Miller wrote: Oh, you'll also need the actual voice installed. . Ok, that seems like  a good reason ... Thanks for the help, Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ use

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2021-01-28 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 11:56:30AM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: > SIOD ERROR: unbound variable : voice_cmu_us_clb_cg > closing a file left open: /home/bobg/.festivalrc > closing a file left open: /usr/share/festival/init.scm > festival: fatal error exiting. Oh, you'll also need the actual voice insta

Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-28 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2021-01-28 10:47, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 10:06:23AM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: [bobg@WS-1 ~]$ cat  .festivalrc set! voice_default voice_cmu_us_clb_cg However /see the following when I try to use festival -/ [bobg@WS-1 ~]$ festival --tts tstgw SIOD ERROR: unbound vari

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2021-01-28 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 10:06:23AM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: > [bobg@WS-1 ~]$ cat  .festivalrc > set! voice_default voice_cmu_us_clb_cg > > However /see the following when I try to use festival -/ > > [bobg@WS-1 ~]$ festival --tts tstgw > SIOD ERROR: unbound variable : voice_cmu_us_clb_cg > closi

Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-28 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2021-01-28 00:07, Samuel Sieb wrote: Or should I just ms=ake .festivalrc a file? .festivalrc is a file.  You put those lines in it. . I removed the directory and put the line I was given into a file ".festivalrc" -rw-rw-r--. 1 bobg bobg 39 Jan 28 09:37 .festivalrc [bobg@WS-1 ~]$ cat 

Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 1/27/21 7:58 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 2021-01-26 23:09, Jon LaBadie wrote: On 2021-01-26 15:52, Matthew Miller wrote: You put configuration in ~/.festivalrc, in the form of commands in Lisp, like for example: (set! voice_default voice_cmu_us_clb_cg) There is also a "Duration_Stretch"

Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-27 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2021-01-26 23:09, Jon LaBadie wrote: On 2021-01-26 15:52, Matthew Miller wrote: You put configuration in ~/.festivalrc, in the form of commands in Lisp, like for example: (set! voice_default voice_cmu_us_clb_cg) There is also a "Duration_Stretch" parameter that defaults to 1.0. Twenty

Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-27 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 at 08:50, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I have Mil Reader listed in the menu on this computer. Can someone tell > me what the procedure is to make it read some text?Bob > Maybe EmacsSpeak can be useful: https://opensource.com/life/16/6/emacspeak-brings-linux-blind http://emacspe

Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-26 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 04:11:22PM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 2021-01-26 15:52, Matthew Miller wrote: You put configuration in ~/.festivalrc, in the form of commands in Lisp, like for example: (set! voice_default voice_cmu_us_clb_cg) There is also a "Duration_Stretch" parameter that defa

Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-26 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2021-01-26 15:52, Matthew Miller wrote: You put configuration in ~/.festivalrc, in the form of commands in Lisp, like for example: (set! voice_default voice_cmu_us_clb_cg) . I'll try that. Thanks, -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3

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2021-01-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 02:13:02PM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I would like to reconfigure the voice sound but have not determined > how to do it? The man page is not much help in this regard, there is > an option for language but I was not able to change it, it just > tells me English is installed

Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-26 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2021-01-25 15:32, George N. White III wrote: At the time, festival had better voices than espeak (and festival currently has a Fedora package). . Upon reading that I "dnf installed festival" It is easy to us and does what I want from the command line, I can feed it any text file, it conve

Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2021-01-25 at 16:20 -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote: > I would argue that composing and sending email is part of the > definition of an email client. > Of course. I wouldn't describe an MUA as a "mail reader". > The evolution desktop entry actually > say

Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-25 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 07:20:26AM +1030, Tim via users wrote: > > On Mon, 2021-01-25 at 11:32 -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote: > > With Evoluion, the .desktop file provides has a lot of hints that it > > is a mail reader. For example, these are all set: > > > > X

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2021-01-25 Thread Jonathan Billings
an about software to make it easier to tell what it is. > > > > With Evoluion, the .desktop file provides has a lot of hints that it > > is a mail reader. For example, these are all set: > > > > "mail reader" is not very helpful as it misses the most of the

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2021-01-25 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2021-01-25 at 11:32 -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote: > With Evoluion, the .desktop file provides has a lot of hints that it > is a mail reader. For example, these are all set: > > X-GNOME-FullName=Evolution Mail and Calendar > > Comment=Manage your email, con

Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-25 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 14:36, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > > On 2021-01-25 09:22, John Pilkington wrote: > > > > A quick search found 'espeak'. It seems to be installed on my el7 and > > Fedora 32 boxes and there was an article about it in the Fedora > > Magazine August 14, 2017 > > > > https://fedora

Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-25 Thread George N. White III
ication such as the name, icon, and description. These files are used for application launchers and for creating menus of applications that can be launched. That doesn't address the problem of totally different programs sharing similar names. > > With Evoluion, the .desktop file provides

Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-25 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2021-01-25 09:22, John Pilkington wrote: A quick search found 'espeak'.  It seems to be installed on my el7 and Fedora 32 boxes and there was an article about it in the Fedora Magazine August 14, 2017 https://fedoramagazine.org/add-speech-fedora-system/ I haven't tried it, but it might

Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-25 Thread Jonathan Billings
onment know what applications are available and what they are for. With Evoluion, the .desktop file provides has a lot of hints that it is a mail reader. For example, these are all set: X-GNOME-FullName=Evolution Mail and Calendar Comment=Manage your email, contacts and schedule Keywords=ema

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