Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-11-04 Thread Diego Schulz
It looks like this bug was simply ignored for this release. There are a number of "known bugs/issues" listed here and there* , but this one doesn't seem to have enough relevance to have an entry somewhere. At least I couldn't find one. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Karmic http:/

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-10-31 Thread Diego Schulz
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 2:39 PM, MarcosJr wrote: > This bug seems to be solved for me on Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala 64 bits. > > -- Not for me. The behavior is the same since 8.04. Also was the same with every kernel upgrade I tried while 9.10 was in development. I still can reproduce the overheat

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-09-29 Thread Diego Schulz
@stuchy: Have you tried what I suggested before in this thread about suspending to RAM and restore? I've got a Toshiba laptop too, and my only workaround currently is to suspend at least once in order to get the cpu fan to work normally after restoring. I reboot ocassionally, and only if necessary

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-09-21 Thread Diego Schulz
Any news on this? It would be a really really unpleasant experience to witness this bug in the final Karmic release. I mean it, real pain. Is there anything I can do to help? -- Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370173 You received this bug notification bec

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-09-10 Thread Diego Schulz
$ uname -a Linux deepthought 2.6.31-10-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 8 12:33:03 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux Problem persists. So far I can say I tried almost every possible kernel available. The only considerable workaround I found is to suspend to RAM and then restore at least once, after this proc

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-08-12 Thread Diego Schulz
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:42 AM, elp wrote: > Let's say this isn't my official opinion ;) but as far as I can see the > bug disappeared after upgrading windows manager to KDE 4.3 (previously > using 4.2). Maybe Andy won't have to do anything at all... > Unfortunately that's simply not true. I'm

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-08-11 Thread Olivier Bilodeau
@avallark, why build yourself when you can already find packaged mainline builds here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/MainlineBuilds ? 2.6.30.1: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30.1/ anyways, I just want to save you some time, you can do whatever you want. Let us know if 2.

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-08-11 Thread Diego Schulz
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:46 AM, avallark wrote: > Hi Diego, I apologise for any bad taste. Lets not ruin this bug. > Agreed. I apologise too. > > I am currently doing an experiment by compiling the kernel 2.6.30.1 and > I will run that kernel to see if this issue gets resolved. If it does, I > wi

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-08-11 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
Am Dienstag, den 11.08.2009, 15:22 + schrieb Diego Schulz: > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:41 AM, avallark wrote: > > @Diego I would have said "oh , there are other brands???" as a reply to > > your cheeky comment about thinkpad users, but then this is Lenovo (the > > maker of IDEApads), I ahve not

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-08-11 Thread Diego Schulz
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:41 AM, avallark wrote: > @Diego I would have said "oh , there are other brands???" as a reply to > your cheeky comment about thinkpad users, but then this is Lenovo (the > maker of IDEApads), I ahve nothing to be proud of about them.. if it > were back in the IBM days, I w

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-08-03 Thread Diego Schulz
It seems that most people here (in this bug report) are Thinkpad users, but undoubtedly there are people with overheating problems [like me] using other brands. Also, it seems that Thinkpad users like to think Lenovo is the only brand out there. After Jaunty, I tried running 2.6.31 (Arch Linux)

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-07-30 Thread Diego Schulz
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:43 PM, elp wrote: > It's sad but people just quit using Ubuntu and change OS > Andy, it's OK, but maybe You should just resign of this ticket, and let > someone who's capable of handling it? > Other Linux-based OSes also suffer from this problem. Just go on and try A

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-07-10 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
@Andy: Any way to figure out which Ubuntu changes make 2.6.27-14-generic work while the mainline kernel does not? I've cloned the jaunty kernel git, but wonder which tags can I try to bisect? Andreas Am Freitag, den 10.07.2009, 19:51 + schrieb Andreas Kostyrka: > surprise, surprise. > > HP t

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-07-09 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
Am Donnerstag, den 09.07.2009, 22:13 + schrieb e13: > paul, charleys - is that official ubuntu view that users who find this > issue being painfully annoying and months with burning hot laptop is a > bit too much - should go and change distro (and what this next > suggestion was)? I'm not spea

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-07-09 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
@Michael: Guess your solution is a non-solution here: [258486.793395] i8k: not running on a supported Dell system. [258486.793415] i8k: vendor=Hewlett-Packard, model=HP Pavilion tx2000 Notebook PC, version=F.08 [258486.793430] i8k: unable to get SMM Dell signature [258486.793441] i8k: una

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-07-09 Thread Michael Brooks
@Paul, your right you agree with me, there is a known fix. But no one cares, no one was even assigned to this bug for MONTHS. I'm leaving Ubuntu because this bug system is so broken. Why about the next bug that damages my hardware? On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Paul C. Bryan wrote: > I t

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-07-09 Thread Michael Brooks
And this is why I'm not using your shitty distro any more. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Andreas Kostyrka wrote: > Notice the critical word here: YOUR laptop. > > Your hacked workaround (which might be inacceptable to some users too, > next issue "my laptop is to loud running Ubuntu"), does not

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-07-09 Thread Michael Brooks
@Andreas here is some software that speeds up the fan on my Dell Laptop to the max and it is what i have been using to fix this bug: #!/usr/bin/python import os import time #apt-get install i8kutils #sudo modprobe i8k force=1 while(True): os.system("i8kfan speed 1 > /dev/null")

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-07-09 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
Notice the critical word here: YOUR laptop. Your hacked workaround (which might be inacceptable to some users too, next issue "my laptop is to loud running Ubuntu"), does not apply to many of the users plagued by this problem, as their laptop do not provide fan control (at all, or at least not und

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-07-09 Thread Michael Brooks
You know what I don't even care that I fixed this bug. Fuck this shit I'm moving to Fedora. Peace On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Michael Brooks wrote: > My laptop stopped shitting down every 20 minutes when i sped up the > fan.  So Andy is mistaken.   This bug should have never happened and >

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-07-09 Thread Michael Brooks
My laptop stopped shitting down every 20 minutes when i sped up the fan. So Andy is mistaken. This bug should have never happened and should have been fixed months ago. peace On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Andreas Kostyrka wrote: > @Michael: Because as Andy has pointed out, this problem happe

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-07-09 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
@Michael: Because as Andy has pointed out, this problem happens often (if not only) on hardware where there is no software control of the fan. Example, my laptop, the HP Pavilion tx2050eg Tablet PC. No software control, at least not from Linux. So why speeding up the fan on hardware where this is

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-07-09 Thread Michael Brooks
Andy, why hasn't Canonical released a fix to speed up the fan? It has been MONTHS and this issues affects everyone at some level. There are so many people on this thread, the bug is obvious like cerebral palsy. peace On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:47 AM, CharleyS wrote: > ACPI dump > > ** Attachmen

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-07-09 Thread Michael Brooks
Hey Andy sounds like you have a heap of fail on your hands. I have had a patch for a few weeks now. Ubuntu's fan speed is too slow, and this is the cause of 99% of the 100 posts on this thread. You probalby can't reproduce the issue because your laptops are not powerful enough. I can't even run

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-07-09 Thread Michael Brooks
Do my eyes deceive me? Did canonical finely recognize this after 96 emails to my inbox? Andy you are testing this on a desktop? This is a problem with laptops! Mr Prabhakar, downgrade to 8 or use Fedora if you want an immediate fix. Peace out On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Prabhakar N

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-07-09 Thread Prabhakar Nagral
Hi Andy, I have Lenovo W500 and after loading 9.04, it gets heated tremendously. Can you please fix this bug ASAP? Or else, provide me with workaround. Regards, -Prabhakar Nagral --- On Mon, 6/7/09, Andy Whitcroft wrote: > From: Andy Whitcroft > Subject: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop o

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-25 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
For me, the 2.6.28 kernel does trigger it. Running 2.6.27-14 works fine. (Actually, subjectivly 2.6.27-14 is not perfect either, but I haven't managed yet to kill it via burnK7, while 2.6.28 takes less than 60s of 2xburnK7 (dualcore) to shutdown) To summarize: Hardy/Intrepid ran perfect on the h

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-22 Thread Michael Brooks
Perhaps there is some magical "issue 2" . But how do you know your fan is spinning properly if you haven't tried to speed it up? Being unscientific is only creating more problems for this bug. m4cph1sto you one of the people being very unscientific about this bug. I know for a fact that we are

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-19 Thread Michael Brooks
m4cph1sto: My fan spins in circles derp derp. I sped up the fan and the problem went away. Can you tell me why would that happen? On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM, m4cph1sto wrote: > I'll add my 2 cents. My laptop, Pentium M 2.0 GHz, is experiencing CPU > temps 10-20 degrees C hotter in Jaunty

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-18 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
Well, while the fans are certainly the core mechanism of keeping a laptop cool nowadays, the OS/firmware/hardware have other mechanisms too. So while I concur that a laptop that shutdowns itself with the fans running suggests a hardware problem, it does not have to be so. The central question is,

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-18 Thread Michael Brooks
No that is a mistype. Of course the machine shuts down at 104c! So it sounds like you all are still chasing your tails or denying the bug.I don't give a fuck about this tread anymore, I have my patch that's all I need. If you are still waiting for canonical to even acknowledge this issue t

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-16 Thread Michael Brooks
I know for a fact the fans are too slow, I have proved it. If you speed up the fan, its stops over heating, plain and simple. There might be other issues at play eating up processor time and thus battery life. I wish a had a mode just for battery life Peace On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:12

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-15 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
Am Montag, den 15.06.2009, 22:32 + schrieb Michael Brooks: > This is a very > easy problem to fix, just speed up the fan. > 1.) Certainly this fix is more workable if you can "address" the fan in the system. My laptop does not report a fan, nor can I control it, at least from userspace. 2.)

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-15 Thread Michael Brooks
This is not a hardware specific issue. Some people here have ATI graphics or AMD chips. I have a nVidia chip with a dual core 2.4ghz Intel.The heat control on Jaunty was changed, the fans stopped the oscillated "breathing" which to be honest was annoying. All of the evidence i have seen is

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-15 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
Am Montag, den 15.06.2009, 19:52 + schrieb arsenix: > > I think comparative temperature logs for different Linux kernels should > > qualify. > > Indeed your experience definitely qualifies. If we can figure out how > to get some fan speed data as well we might be able to start digging > down

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-15 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
Am Montag, den 15.06.2009, 19:26 + schrieb arsenix: > This is a Jaunty bug... if you aren't running Jaunty please post on > another bug. > > Unless this isn't already clear to folks... if you don't have (or aren't > willing to obtain) comparative thermal testing data from another OS > where th

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-15 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
Am Montag, den 15.06.2009, 15:06 + schrieb arsenix: > I guess fan speed monitoring is not supported by the kernel yet on your > machine. I assume your machine has an AMD chipset? (I think all AMD > notebooks do) Well, I guess it's an nVidia chipset: 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-15 Thread arsenix
I guess fan speed monitoring is not supported by the kernel yet on your machine. I assume your machine has an AMD chipset? (I think all AMD notebooks do) Have you done any testing on windows or with earlier ubuntu distro's to verify that the behavior is different under Jaunty? James Andre

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-15 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
Am Montag, den 15.06.2009, 13:57 + schrieb arsenix: > Michal I think 50C is pretty much normal operating temp for a Core2 Duo > laptop. I think if you run under windows you will find it is similar. > Thermal shutdown temp is well over 100C. > > I think we should focus on users who are getting

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-15 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
In my original bugreport, I did include most of this, although I did not mention that I've got NVidia graphics. In my case the problem started with Jaunty, is bad with 2.6.27-14-generic, and got intolerable in 2.6.28 (as in burnK7 manages to make the machine reboot in less than 60 seconds). I've

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-15 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
Well, that's what I said. This is a collective bug, where anything with the keyword "overheat" ends in. Collecting different bugs, without any directed effort to even verify what the bug is, won't solve the problems. -- Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-15 Thread Dominic van Berkel
kblc wrote: > Yep, it's already 1,5 month this bug is here, and I assume that most of those > who have encountered this bug didn't bother filling a bug report (or maybe > they don't even know about it). > Still, most of the reports seem to be somehow connected to either NVidia GPU > or chipset (

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-15 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
Hint: on "your" machine. And it basically validates my points. You machine is not capable of running Ubuntu without hacks, meaning your machine + Linux newbie = Ubuntu does not work. In my case the workaround is to use an older kernel. Not cool, but workable. Although something in the system (and

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-15 Thread Michael Brooks
Andreas you are wrong. The problem is very simple and my python patch works GREAT on my system. If you speed up the fan, then the machine works like a CHAMP. By default the fan is too fucking slow and the machine overheats and dies. I'm going to stick with Ubuntu until I get burned again. (No

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-15 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
Well, worse looking at this bug suggests it's a collection of different problems, and instead of trying to triage, reproduce it, and working on the bugs one-on-one, they are collecting it into one big bug, with no hope of ever fixing it. In my case, the buggy overheating leads to a situation where

Re: [Bug 370173] Re: Ubuntu 9.04 laptop overheat and shutdown

2009-06-15 Thread Michael Brooks
Yeah, i have been using my own patch for my Dell Laptop. Basically i have just been speeding up the fan to max. Its looped to fight to keep the speed at max, it kind of breaths again.Its a dirty hack for sure, but not as dirty as Canonical for releasing such as shitty bug. #!/usr/bin/pyth