Re: [Tutor] Web programming question: Re: Tutor Digest, Vol 108, Issue 58

2013-02-16 Thread Danny Yoo
>> Hi, I signed up a while ago, but I didn't really understand anything. I >> have a basic question that maybe someone can help with. I'll like to >> integrate yelp data -- http://www.programmableweb.com/api/yelp -- onto >> google maps -- http://www.programmableweb.com/api/google-maps -- like >> ho

[Tutor] Web programming question: Re: Tutor Digest, Vol 108, Issue 58

2013-02-16 Thread Alan Gauld
Please start new topics with a new post (ie a fresh mail to tutor@python.org) Please do not reply to digests without trimming out all irrelevant content - some people pay by the byte. Please choose a sensible subject line not "Tutor Digest..." On 16/02/13 03:09, Claira wrote: Hi, I signed up

Re: [Tutor] Web Programming

2011-07-20 Thread James Reynolds
If it doesn't interest you, skip it and move on. You can always come back and learn it later, which will be easier anyway, with a more robust background. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Dharmit Shah wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been reading Head First > Python

[Tutor] Web Programming

2011-07-20 Thread Dharmit Shah
Hi all, I have been reading Head First Python since some time now. I am stuck in a chapter on Web Development. Web Development has never been an area of my interest and hence I feel stuck in there. If anyone here has read the book, I wish to know if it

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-20 Thread Chris Calloway
On Sep 20, 2008, at 7:51 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: Am 20.09.2008 um 00:01 schrieb Alan Gauld: "Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote is of paramount importance. It appears to me that Django is an all- in-one monolithic application. Years ago Zope was the number 1 and now it's basically gon

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-20 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
Am 20.09.2008 um 00:01 schrieb Alan Gauld: "Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote is of paramount importance. It appears to me that Django is an all- in-one monolithic application. Years ago Zope was the number 1 and now it's basically gone. Zope is still around but it has retreated into so

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread Alan Gauld
"Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote is of paramount importance. It appears to me that Django is an all-in-one monolithic application. Years ago Zope was the number 1 and now it's basically gone. Zope is still around but it has retreated into something of a niche where it offers its own uniqu

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread Patrick
Sorry to create another post and fill up everyones mailboxes but I forgot something important... In terms of searching for documentation I believe you should look to the framework of your choice. There is not that much non-cgi related programming documentation out there-patrick Alan Gauld wr

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread Patrick
Hi Dorje and Alan First off, everything that Alan has said is true and I would like to re-iterate my lack of qualifications. I depend on people like Alan to guide me. Just a couple of days ago I posted an extremely silly question about shell programming. So having said that I think there are

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread Alan Gauld
"Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote I am in the small minority of people who are don't like frameworks. There used to be a small minority of people who didn't like compiled or other high level languages. But they gradually died out... There was even a very small community who didn't like assem

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread Kent Johnson
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > According to this article there have been changes to 350K lines of code in > Django: > http://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2008/sep/03/1/ Note there are also 40,000 lines of new documentation. > I am sure this is an awesomely

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread Chad Crabtree
Things you need to know. In order * HTML * Javascript * CGI Webscripting, this teaches you the difference between GET and POST, with this you can make simple things, like a page view counter for example, or a simple game of hangman. * Web framework or Templating language, python is not we

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread Patrick
Hi Dorje I am a beginner like you, I can't provide perfect advice but I have been working through this same problem for months. If you use Python CGI you can get started right away with virtually any hosting company but the performance is terrible and the Python interpreter installed will be

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread Hansen, Mike
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of dorje tarap > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:38 AM > To: Tutor@python.org > Subject: [Tutor] Web programming advice > > Hi All, > > I would really like to learn about using python for creati

[Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread dorje tarap
Hi All, I would really like to learn about using python for creating a website from scratch to allow me to learn about web programming and python. I have zero experience of web programming, and some limited exposure to python. Can someone recommend a book or resource that will introduce me to web

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-20 Thread Alan Gauld
"Monika Jisswel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > confused & maybe lost. my choice to go python was because i could > feel its > power from the first applications I could develop, then were able to > modify > (in no time), expand (with no single problem & in no time) ... I > want to > feel the same

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-20 Thread Monika Jisswel
Hi, Ok, so if you were to go back in time ... which pythonic web-tool /framework would you put more time in studying ? keep in mind that you still have no experience and you need something to get you started in web technology, second thing to take into account is that it doesn't have to be a

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-19 Thread Alan Gauld
"Monika Jisswel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > reading theses emails i have a question : > ikaaro or zope - what's best ? which one is the most used ? They are very different animals as far as I can rtell. In terms of usage there is nom doubt Zope is more poular, you can tell that by the fact t

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Terry Carroll
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Che M wrote: > Thank you, everyone, for all the responses! I will wade through them > and try to get some understanding and then will no doubt come back with > some questions in some days. Much appreciated. -Che Che, I've done several superficial web programs over the years

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Chris Calloway
On 4/18/2008 4:00 PM, Monika Jisswel wrote: > Ok but I still need more votes for zope to be convinced, Well, arguing about what is the best python web framework is kind of fruitless. Everybody has an opinion. But no one is qualified to pronounce a comparison on all of them. The "votes" you would

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Che M
Thank you, everyone, for all the responses! I will wade through them and try to get some understanding and then will no doubt come back with some questions in some days. Much appreciated. -Che _ More immediate than e-mail? Get i

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Monika Jisswel
> > and has a huge community, it is a very advanced framework. > Ok but I still need more votes for zope to be convinced, Just in case Zope won the majority of the voices ... How much time would it take one to learn & become productive in zope ? ___ Tuto

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
Am 18.04.2008 um 21:37 schrieb Monika Jisswel: Hi, reading theses emails i have a question : ikaaro or zope - what's best ? which one is the most used ? Zope is in production since 1996 and has a huge community, it is a very advanced framework. One of the best CMS is built on top of Z

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Monika Jisswel
Hi, reading theses emails i have a question : ikaaro or zope - what's best ? which one is the most used ? ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Chris Calloway
On 4/18/2008 11:01 AM, Hansen, Mike wrote: > I'm curious about > other tutor list member's thoughts on this. Am I out to lunch on this > viewpoint? +1 (In favor of your viewpoint, that is. Not in favor of you being out to lunch on this. :) In the Zope community I see evidence all the time from

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
Hi Che, try out Grok. Grok is a convention-over-configuration-framework for Zope and an excellent start into this framework. You'll find a really cool tutorial of Grok here: http://grok.zope.org/documentation/book/ juh ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@pyth

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
On Apr 18, 2008, at 8:01 AM, Hansen, Mike wrote: > IMHO, I think before anyone jumps into using a framework, they should > understand the basics of cgi programming. Maybe do just a small > exercise with simple form processing. After that exercise, then move > on to one of the frameworks that make

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Chris Calloway
On 4/18/2008 8:20 AM, bob gailer wrote: > Norman Khine wrote: >> Here are the docs, http://download.ikaaro.org/doc/itools/index.html >> >> > Having never heard of itools I decided to take a look at the itools.web > examples. I was OK with 13.1 Hello world. Then I hit 13.2 Traversal. The > text

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Hansen, Mike
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Che M > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:21 PM > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: [Tutor] web programming tutorials? > > [I thought I sent a similar msg to this list 2 days ago,

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Kent Johnson
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Che M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can someone point me to a start-from-dead-scratch tutorial about the > basics of web programming? > You might be interested in the book "Foundations of Python Network Programming". http://www.complete.org/publications/pynet/ It

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread bob gailer
Norman Khine wrote: > Hi Che, > I started with python web programming using Zope, but this was because I > needed a quick CMS application for a small project I did and Zope's CMF > fitted the bill nicely. > > Now I use itools (http://ikaaro.org/itools) it is relatively easy to > setup and is 99%

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Norman Khine
yes i have to admit documentation is not all there, but there is a chapter for the web, http://download.ikaaro.org/doc/itools/chapter--web.html which gives basic understandings of how it works. Alan Gauld wrote: > "Norman Khine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > >> Now I use itools (http://ikaaro.org

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Oleg Oltar
Introduction into CGI in Russian http://www.intuit.ru/department/internet/cgi/ Please give alternative link on English variant On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Alan Gauld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Che M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > I was kind of hop

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Alan Gauld
"Norman Khine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > Now I use itools (http://ikaaro.org/itools) it is relatively easy to > setup and is 99% python (the parser is now in C) the latest version > has > two packages, the core itools is a python library and ikaaro is the > CMS. I had a look at this since I

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Alan Gauld
"Che M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I was kind of hoping Alan Gauld's project would be updated > for the tempting but not yet existent section on web programming. I have been working on two web programming topics (one client side, one server side) for over a ye

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-18 Thread Oleg Oltar
Hi Che! Use django, don't use Zope and everything will be fine. Django is a new very powerful web framework. Many cool web applications was created using django! e.g. you can take a look on our project: www.mydeco.com Use django and let the Power be with you :) Thanks, Oleg On Fri, Apr 18, 2008

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-17 Thread Norman Khine
Hi Che, I started with python web programming using Zope, but this was because I needed a quick CMS application for a small project I did and Zope's CMF fitted the bill nicely. Now I use itools (http://ikaaro.org/itools) it is relatively easy to setup and is 99% python (the parser is now in C)

Re: [Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-17 Thread Oleg Oltar
OK. take a look on the pages: 1. http://www.djangobook.com/ 2. Official docs on http://www.djangoproject.com/ 3. Dive into python (http://diveintopython.org/) 4. And the last one (but the best) showmedo: http://showmedo.com/ On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Che M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

[Tutor] web programming tutorials?

2008-04-17 Thread Che M
[I thought I sent a similar msg to this list 2 days ago, but now I'm not sure it went through, so sorry if I've doubled] Can someone point me to a start-from-dead-scratch tutorial about the basics of web programming? I've been learning wxPython for GUI programming, but web programming (that i

Re: [Tutor] Web programming

2007-11-17 Thread Michael Langford
While CherryPy is suited to what you're doing, I personally think Mod_Python and Apache are easier to use for this sort of thing. Here is an article showing how to set it up: http://modpython.org/live/current/doc-html/installation.html And a good first quick program that clearly explains what erro

Re: [Tutor] Web programming

2007-11-17 Thread Kent Johnson
Dinesh B Vadhia wrote: > Hi! I want to create (for testing purposes) a straightforward web > application consisting of a client that makes simple queries to a > backend which returns data from a database (initially pysqlite3). > That's it - really! I don't need a professional web server (eg.

Re: [Tutor] Web programming

2007-11-17 Thread Alan Gauld
"Dinesh B Vadhia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > web application consisting of a client that makes simple queries > to a backend which returns data from a database (initially > pysqlite3). When you say a client do you mean a robotic browser? Or do you mean the web application will be a client/serve

[Tutor] Web programming

2007-11-17 Thread Dinesh B Vadhia
Hi! I want to create (for testing purposes) a straightforward web application consisting of a client that makes simple queries to a backend which returns data from a database (initially pysqlite3). That's it - really! I don't need a professional web server (eg. Apache) per se. Are the Pytho