On 4/18/2008 11:01 AM, Hansen, Mike wrote: > I'm curious about > other tutor list member's thoughts on this. Am I out to lunch on this > viewpoint?
+1 (In favor of your viewpoint, that is. Not in favor of you being out to lunch on this. :) In the Zope community I see evidence all the time from noobs that tells me, oh, you don't know how HTTP requests and responses work, do you? Honestly, I don't know how anyone could work well with a web framework without knowing these things. But many people try. :) Python makes it so easy to try. Even with CGI programming, there are some things you need to know about this first. Actually, more so. It's almost like web noobs should start with socket programming. :) There is a Firefox extension called LiveHTTPHeaders that can be illustrative to HTTP noobs. You can see all the requests and response headers without any programming: http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/ The httplib module allows you to experiment with this in Python programming once you understand a little about what to put in a request by watching a few with LiveHTTPHeaders: http://docs.python.org/lib/httplib-examples.html This little $10 book is also indispensable for those on such a learning curve: http://www.amazon.com/HTTP-Pocket-Reference-Hypertext-Transfer/dp/1565928628/ -- Sincerely, Chris Calloway http://www.secoora.org office: 332 Chapman Hall phone: (919) 599-3530 mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599 _______________________________________________ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
