On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 22:11:37 +
ADRIAN KELLY wrote:
> can someone spell out to me in (simply if possible) what this
> programme is doing. i understand the concept of the "for" loop and
> what its doing with the message the user enters. i just cant
> understand the VOWELS and how it keeps add
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:08:19 +0200
Hugo Arts wrote:
> * someone from the future is in need of python help and is sending
> messages back in time.
I told Guido that Python version 5.2 sucked, but he wouldn't /
will not listen! :-/
/mac
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On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:15:07 -0400
"Prasad, Ramit" wrote:
> >If you are using asserts for data validation, then your code is
> >broken. The caller can disable every single assert, and hence remove
> >your data validation, by simply passing a command line switch when
> >calling your program.
>
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:03:11 +0100
Alan Gauld wrote:
> Remember that when handling exceptions we should be trying
> to recover the situation not just bombing with an error message.
> Exceptions should not be thought of as purely about
> messages, they are opportunities to recover the situation w
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:58:49 +1000
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Mac Ryan wrote:
>
> > raise BaseException('Something is wrong here!')
>
> Never raise BaseException directly! BaseException is the very top of
> the exception hierarchy, you should raise the
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:32:00 -0400
c smith wrote:
> hi list,
> i understand the general idea of recursion and if I am following well
> written code I can understand how it works, but when I try to write
> it for myself I get a bit confused with the flow.
> I was trying to turn an ackerman functio
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:03:29 +0800
Cheeyung wrote:
> >> On 09/23/2011 01:15 AM, Cheeyung wrote:
> >>> I'm creating a mobile application and I'm using python for a
> >>> desktop server. However, I don't have access to a static IP on the
> >>> desktop, but do have a website. Is it possible to conne
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 03:20:53 -0400
Dave Angel wrote:
> On 09/23/2011 01:15 AM, Cheeyung wrote:
> > I'm creating a mobile application and I'm using python for a
> > desktop server. However, I don't have access to a static IP on the
> > desktop, but do have a website. Is it possible to connect from
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:27:12 +1000
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> There are three misunderstandings with that statement.
> [snip]
> There's also JPype, which claims to give full access to Java
> libraries in Python.
Now: this was one of the best write-ups on the subject I read. Concise,
clear, docume
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:39:47 -0500
"Ryan Strunk" wrote:
> By the time I write this all into a file, the end user will never
> even know this crazy hierarchy exists, but I will, and I don't like
> it. Do I just need to get over it and realize that sometimes nested
> is necessary, or is there a bett
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:55:19 -0400
"Prasad, Ramit" wrote:
> Have you taken a look at: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/stdeb/0.5.1
Thank you for this. Actually I got the same advice also on my SO
question here: http://stackoverflow.com/q/7110604/146792 at about the
same time you answered me. Good so
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 00:08:30 +0100
Alan Gauld wrote:
> I notice there is also a distutils SIG with a mailing list which
> looks like they might help. A quick look at some mails suggests they
> cover this kind of issue.
>
> FWIW I used the gmane web site to take a quick look...
Thanks for both t
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:48:19 -0400
"Prasad, Ramit" wrote:
> To be honest, even after reading your original post twice (now
> knowing you are actually asking a Python question) I am unsure what
> Python question you are asking.
Apologies, English is not my mother tongue, maybe I wasn't able to
ex
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:01:08 -0400
Brett Ritter wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Mac Ryan
> wrote:
> > In particular, `distutils` is part of the standard python
> > distribution and it is in no way specific to Debian, so I don't feel
> > this is the
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 22:43:09 +1000
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Mac Ryan wrote:
> > Although it's years I program with python, I never distributed my
> > software with packages (I never created *any* packages in my life,
> > indeed).
>
> This is a mailing lis
Although it's years I program with python, I never distributed my
software with packages (I never created *any* packages in my life,
indeed).
Out there there is ton of information on how to do this, but after a
day of scouring the Internet I still did not wrap my mind around it.
The problem for me
Just thought to google for "S5 python", and google came out with a lot
of interesting links! :o
/mac
> Good Morning:
>
> I am very new to Python but I am enjoying the learning process. I
> have a question about the application of Python to a problem at the
> industrial business where I work. My
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 06:18:14 -0700 (PDT)
Adam Carr wrote:
> Good Morning:
>
> I am very new to Python but I am enjoying the learning process. I
> have a question about the application of Python to a problem at the
> industrial business where I work. My two main questions are:
>
> 1. Can Python
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 22:00:03 +0800
Kok Cheng Tan wrote:
> I created this website for practising python online:
> http://www.pyschools.com. Hope to gather feedback from people here
> who are interesting in teaching and learning python.
Here you go with the first suggestion: remove the need to log
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:33:07 +0100
Piotr Kamiński wrote:
> You can get the list of Python's standard modules by typing help()
> and then you will see something similar to:
Thanks a lot! This is what I was after!
Mac.
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:09:10 +0100
Timo wrote:
> > I was wondering... apart from checking each name individually, is
> > there any easy-peasy way to get a list of names used in the
> > standard library (I am thinking to something like "dir()"?
> This is the webpage I always use for searchin
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 00:58:23 +
Adam Bark wrote:
> Ah yes always avoid giving your modules names that appear in the
> standard library. It goes wrong, sometimes in unexpected ways.
I was wondering... apart from checking each name individually, is there
any easy-peasy way to get a list of nam
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 01:15:48 -
"Alan Gauld" wrote:
> In a recent project that we
> completed we had 600k lines of production code and over a
> million lines of test code.
>
> And we still wound up with over 50 reported bugs during Beta test...
> But that was much better than the 2000 bugs on
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:02:27 +0100
"Josep M. Fontana" wrote:
> Does anybody know of any good reference on testing? How do you develop
> tests for functions? I haven't found much information on this in the
> Python books I own.
When I first learnt python I found the "Dive into Python" section of
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:16:46 +
Jose Amoreira wrote:
> I read somewhere that for any recursive algorithm there is a
> sequential one that is equivalent
> [...]
> Is there a more straightforward way of solving my specific problem
> or, better yet, a general solution to the need of a variable nu
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 17:16 -0800, Terry Carroll wrote:
> The only feature I'm pining for at all is the new argparse; but it
> depends on your needs.
Ubuntu 10.10 here (running python 2.6.6) I use argparse without any
problems: I believe the difference between 2.6 and 2.7 [I am not an
expert
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 01:11 +, Walter Prins wrote:
> You need to distinguish between what __dict__ *is*, and what it
> *contains*. dir() does introspection, it inspects what an object in
> Python *is*, e.g. displays all the methods and attributes of the
> object. It does not however know anyt
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 00:17 +, Walter Prins wrote:
>
>
> On 4 November 2010 23:20, Mac Ryan wrote:
> My question boils down to: how can I expand the Namespace
> object in
> order to get a list of keyword arguments?
>
> If "ns" is
Hi,
I'm writing a small command line utility using the argparse module (I
am on python 2.6.6 so that's not in the standard lib, but this should
not play any role in my problem, I believe).
My goal is to use a class that I already wrote and cannot change for a
GUI app, as a command
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 11:59 -0400, Che M wrote:
> Mac, I found this an excellent brief overview of UT and your points
> all
> seem very strong to me. Thanks very much. I admit I didn't really
> know
> anything about the topic and was mentioning my feelings on the matter
> partly to elicit enlight
> A different analogy comes to my mind; I once saw two different sets of
> people analyze data. One did it "by hand": visually inspecting
> thousands
> of signals herself and typing Y or N to accept or reject each signal.
> The
> other did it with an automated system that accepted or rejected
> s
On Sun, 2010-08-01 at 03:30 -0400, Huy Ton That wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Do any of you have any feedback, strategies and best practices related
> to unit testing within Python. This is a relatively new topic for me.
> I was thinking of starting with reading the documentation associate
> with the unitt
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 14:36 +0200, Bala subramanian wrote:
> I have to do a series of job in a remote machine. I put each job in a
> text file called 'job' as and wrote the following code that can read
> each line in the text file and execute the job.
If that works for you, no need to change it, o
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 13:53 -0500, Scott Nelson wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Mac Ryan
> wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
>
> Mac,
>
> I don't know if this is exactly what you are after, but I created a
> poor-man's plugin system by s
Hi everybody,
This is more of a python software design question rather than a
question on the Python syntax alone. I hope it is fine to ask here.
I am working on a small project, that I will release under a GPL
license, whose main design guiding principle is extensibility. Thus I
On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 23:31 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 27/07/2010 23:20, ZUXOXUS wrote:
> > Hi all pythoners
> >
> > I've got a probably easy to answer question.
> >
> > Say I've got a collections of strings, e.g.: 'man', 'bat', 'super', 'ultra'.
> >
> > They are in a list, or in a sequence o
On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 09:44 -0700, Jon Crump wrote:
> Just as a matter of curiosity piqued by having to understand someone
> else's code. Is the difference here just a matter of style, or is one
> better somehow than the other?
>
> >>> l
> [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10]
>
> >>> ','.join([str(
On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 14:03 +0100, Dipo Elegbede wrote:
> what ook would you recommend for a beginner?
I am a django beginner myself. I did the tutorial first
(http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/intro/tutorial01/) and now I am
very happy with "Practical Django Projects":
http://www.amazon.com/Pr
On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 12:09 -0700, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote:
> I am making a data processing program that will use a configuration
> file. The file should contain information about: (1) source files
> used, (2) (intermediate) output files, (3) used parameters/estimation
> methods (4) manual data edi
Have you ever got that piece of advice about - when you have stuck on a
bug you seem unable to track - getting a plush toy to whom you explain
your code? (This is of course a workaround if you do not have a fellow
developer to help you out).
Well... I found out this advice kind of works for me, wi
On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 06:18 -0700, dan06 wrote:
> I'd like to learn a programming language - and I need help deciding between
> python and ruby. I'm interesting in learning what are the difference, both
> objective and subjective, between the two languages. I know this is a python
> mailing list, s
On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 00:01 +0200, Jojo Mwebaze wrote:
> thanks guys,
>
>
> Currently i am using pyfits, a bit slow cause loads the file in
> memory, creates a subimage and then saves the file then transmits
> the file over the network! My idea is, if there is a way of creating
> a file pointer
On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 04:27 +0200, Luke Paireepinart wrote:
> there are directions on how to remove yourself from the list at the
> bottom of every message that the list sends out.
> ___
> click.
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On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 16:31 -0400, Damon Timm wrote:
> Hi again - thanks for your help with my question early today (and last
> night). Tried searching google for this next question but can't get
> an answer ... here is what I would like to do (but it is not working)
> ...
>
> >>>dict = {'test1':
On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 18:42 +0530, prasad rao wrote:
> >On 8/29/09, Geneviève DIAGORN wrote:
> >Bonjour,
> >Je suis absente jusqu'au 02/09 inclus.
> >En cas d'urgence Soprane, contacter notre adresse générique
> >projet.sopr...@teamlog.com.
> >Cordialement
On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 11:44 +, ALAN GAULD wrote:
> First recall that xsstatic methods were historically the first attempt at
> giving Python class methods. (They were called staticmethods because
> C++ and Java define their class methods using the label 'static' )
> ...
> > The only differenc
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 18:03 +0100, Alan Gauld wrote:
> "Mac Ryan" wrote
>
> > I am not sure I understood the difference between staticmethod end
> > classmethod, though, even if I can guess it has to do with subclassing,
>
> I think it is mainly historical
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 12:24 -0400, Dave Angel wrote:
> > Thank you Dave, very helpful as ever. I made a few tests and experiments
> > to understand better, and I feel I am understanding how it works.
> > Although the mechanic of this is increasingly clear, the logic behind is
> > still a bit obscur
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 08:55 -0400, Dave Angel wrote:
> Mac Ryan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 21:32 -0400, Dave Angel wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Now there are a couple of decorators that are in the standard library
> >> that everyone should know a
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 21:32 -0400, Dave Angel wrote:
> Now there are a couple of decorators that are in the standard library
> that everyone should know about:classmethod() and staticmethod().
> They wrap a method in a new one (which ends up having the same name),
> such that the first arg
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 15:46 -0400, Dave Angel wrote:
> So define a classmethod to finish the job, and invoke it later
>
> class Employee(object):
> @classmethod
> def finish(cls):
> cls.__storm_table__ = "employee"
> cls.company_id = []
> cls.company = Company.id
Hello everybody,
I am using "storm" (https://storm.canonical.com/) to manage my
database. In storm, relationships between tables (each table is
represented by a class) are expressed like this (line #4):
1 >>> class Employee(Person):
2 ... __storm_table__ = "employee"
3 ... company
Hello everybody,
this is more a request of info than of help.
I want to play around with pexpect a bit, but I am confused on what is
the latest stable version. On SF (linked from the site of the pexpect
developer)
http://pexpect.sourceforge.net/pexpect.html
it seems the latest version (
On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 15:06 -0700, kreglet wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The problem that I am having is writing an algorithm for finding all the
> possible words from a given word. For example: python
>
> from "python" you can make the words pot, top, hop, not etc. There are few
> examples for making an
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 11:26 -0500, Wayne wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I have a program written in python + pygtk and I'm trying to figure
> out what would be the best way to distribute my program. I've googled
> all over and I find lots of build scripts, the py2exe utility...
>
>
> It just seems that th
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 20:27 +0100, Alan Gauld wrote:
> > way I could enforce behaviours like "not null" or "default" from within
> > the datastructure itself (for example in the __init__ method) rather
> > than enforcing a logic from outside (i.e. the "mother class").
>
> But those features are fe
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 13:33 -0400, Kent Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Mac Ryan wrote:
>
> > Finally, I somewhere read that embedded declarations are much faster
> > than external ones in being referenced. So, if performance is an issue,
> > maybe em
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 11:26 -0400, Serdar Tumgoren wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I was wondering if there's anyone who can offer a use case/rationale
> for nested class?
...
> Are there specific situations when nested classes come in handy
> (perhaps for grouping conceptually related classes that don'
A couple of months ago I took the time to read a few articles on python
web application frameworks and I got the impression that the two most
mature and active projects are Zope and Django.
Zope vs. Django hits 879.000 pages on google but much of the debate - or
at least this is my impression - fa
Hi all,
having seen a few people in the past days sending "trial messages" on
the list I figured it out that I must not be the only one to experience
problems with it.
I even set up the "notification" feature that sends you an
acknowledgement message when your mail is received fro
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 19:03 +0100, Alan Gauld wrote:
> There is no simpler solution without changing the class.
> If you can do that you could pass the container to the constructor
> and get the class to add itself to the container
Kent, Alan...
thank you very much, indeed I finally
Hello,
I'm working on an application in which I need the main loop to call the
same method on a number of objects. I came up with this solution that
seem to work, but I was wondering if there is a better / more pythonic
solution to the problem.
def invokeAll(method, data):
"""This fu
I am not an expert, but if I got you correctly, what you want to achieve
is a "singleton": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singleton_pattern if you
watch at the sample implementation, there is a Python example too.
Mac.
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 10:45 -0500, shawn bright wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I have an
Thank you Alan for the prompt reply,
> - Put reusable components into modules.
OK: the use of files as "libraries" is quite clear to me and indeed I
am already doing that. What is not clear is if I should _only_ put in
modules stuff that is reusable, or if there are other widely accepted
Hello everybody,
I am new to python programming, but - thanks to "dive into python" - I
had no difficulties in picking up the basics of the language and
experimenting on my own with PyGTK and STORM.
While I am working my way up to a more pythonic and cleaner style in
the code, one
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