Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-29 Thread C B
There is a configuration option, but instead of asking someone to check off their intention     * Bypassing local firewall/censorship     * Bypassing state-level firewall/censorship     * Avoiding monitoring by ISP     * Robbing banks     * Stealing passwords     * Watching pornography at work  

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-29 Thread Michael Wolf
On 1/29/2014 7:08 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: > Playing devil's advocate - is it a good or not so good idea for users > 1) not to be able to see their current (exit) node? For Tor users in > certain countries, would it be the best choice to use nodes located in > their own countries or in ones suspecte

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 1/29/2014 7:05 AM, Kristov Atlas wrote: Then the button should read "change exit node" and not "new identity", no? On Jan 27, 2014, at 22:02, Michael Wolf wrote: On 1/26/2014 5:57 AM, Lunar wrote: Katya Titov: New Identity works from both TBB and Vidalia. The difference is that from TBB

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-29 Thread Kristov Atlas
Then the button should read "change exit node" and not "new identity", no? > On Jan 27, 2014, at 22:02, Michael Wolf wrote: > >> On 1/26/2014 5:57 AM, Lunar wrote: >> Katya Titov: >>> New Identity works from both TBB and Vidalia. The difference is that >>> from TBB the entire browser closes and

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-28 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 1/28/2014 4:34 AM, Rick wrote: On 01/27/2014 10:49 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: On 1/27/2014 9:02 PM, Michael Wolf wrote: At this time, using Vidalia is the only way to change exit nodes without losing all your tabs, or to see which exit node is misbehaving. It would be really useful to be able t

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-28 Thread Rick
On 01/27/2014 10:49 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: On 1/27/2014 9:02 PM, Michael Wolf wrote: At this time, using Vidalia is the only way to change exit nodes without losing all your tabs, or to see which exit node is misbehaving. It would be really useful to be able to change exit nodes without Vidali

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-28 Thread Lunar
Michael Wolf: > Sometimes you don't actually want your "identity" to change, but you > want to move to a different exit node because there is a connection > issue between the exit node and the destination. You're browsing, and > then your exit node changes after so many minutes... but the new exit

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-27 Thread C B
Yes Basically I think most users would agree that it was a nice idea to simplify the Tor browser, but the unintended consequence is that a lot of functionality that many of us enjoyed and used regularly vanished, to the detriment of everyone. It was not as dumb as the decision that Firefox made

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-27 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 1/27/2014 9:02 PM, Michael Wolf wrote: At this time, using Vidalia is the only way to change exit nodes without losing all your tabs, or to see which exit node is misbehaving. It would be really useful to be able to change exit nodes without Vidalia, even if this function is hidden somewhat.

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-27 Thread Michael Wolf
On 1/26/2014 5:57 AM, Lunar wrote: > Katya Titov: >> New Identity works from both TBB and Vidalia. The difference is that >> from TBB the entire browser closes and restarts and you lose open tabs. >> When choosing a new identity from Vidalia the browser remains open. > > I need to point this out o

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-26 Thread Katya Titov
Lunar: > Katya Titov: >> New Identity works from both TBB and Vidalia. The difference is that >> from TBB the entire browser closes and restarts and you lose open >> tabs. When choosing a new identity from Vidalia the browser remains >> open. > > I need to point this out one more time: In the case

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-26 Thread Lunar
Katya Titov: > New Identity works from both TBB and Vidalia. The difference is that > from TBB the entire browser closes and restarts and you lose open tabs. > When choosing a new identity from Vidalia the browser remains open. I need to point this out one more time: In the case of the latter, the

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-26 Thread Katya Titov
Joe Btfsplk: > On 1/25/2014 5:07 PM, Lunar wrote: >> Joe Btfsplk: >>> I missed the memo on all reasons why Vidalia - bad, Tor Launcher - >>> good. >> >> At least: >> http://users.encs.concordia.ca/~clark/papers/2007_soups.pdf >> http://petsymposium.org/2012/papers/hotpets12-1-usability.pdf >> and

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-26 Thread Katya Titov
Nathan Suchy: > Katya Titov: >> TT Security: >>> 1. So "Network Map" and "New Identity" are absent now. When these >>> functions will be add to the TBB? >> >> Vidalia is now a stand-alone package. Details: >> >> https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq#WhereDidVidaliaGo > > I'm unsure, The New Identity

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-25 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 1/25/2014 5:07 PM, Lunar wrote: Joe Btfsplk: I missed the memo on all reasons why Vidalia - bad, Tor Launcher - good. At least: http://users.encs.concordia.ca/~clark/papers/2007_soups.pdf http://petsymposium.org/2012/papers/hotpets12-1-usability.pdf and Vidalia has no maintainers for a while

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-25 Thread Mark McCarron
I find it interesting that changes put forward by a group funded by every major three letter intelligence agency makes it into tor. More interesting is the fact that these changes hide who you are connected to and the ability to change that. That's highly exploitable. What's going on here? M

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-25 Thread Lunar
Joe Btfsplk: > I missed the memo on all reasons why Vidalia - bad, Tor Launcher - > good. At least: http://users.encs.concordia.ca/~clark/papers/2007_soups.pdf http://petsymposium.org/2012/papers/hotpets12-1-usability.pdf and Vidalia has no maintainers for a while now. -- Lunar

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-25 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 1/25/2014 7:33 AM, Katya Titov wrote: TT Security: 1. So "Network Map" and "New Identity" are absent now. When these functions will be add to the TBB? Vidalia is now a stand-alone package. Details: https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq#WhereDidVidaliaGo If TBB is leaving Vidalia for a "better

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-25 Thread Nathan Suchy
I'm unsure, The New Identity function is critical, I think Tor Button has it, but Network might be a deprecated function... On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Katya Titov wrote: > TT Security: > > 1. So "Network Map" and "New Identity" are absent now. When these > > functions will be add to the T

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-25 Thread Katya Titov
TT Security: > 1. So "Network Map" and "New Identity" are absent now. When these > functions will be add to the TBB? Vidalia is now a stand-alone package. Details: https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq#WhereDidVidaliaGo -- kat -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscri

[tor-talk] Vidalia has been replaced with Tor Launcher

2014-01-23 Thread TT Security
Hi, 1. So "Network Map" and "New Identity" are absent now. When these functions will be add to the TBB? 2. Is it still able to set nodes: #EntryNodes, #ExitNodes, #ExcludeNodes, #ExcludeExitNodes in torrc cfg-file? --- Regards -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To un