Re: [tor-talk] Funded search engine for onionspace?

2015-03-05 Thread Andreas Krey
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 11:27:08 +, George Kadianakis wrote: ... > FWIW, none of the above will actually help against a non-experienced > user that uses tor2web to connect to an onion by mistake. Even with HS > authorization or HTTP auth, the onion will forever be imprinted on > that public list.

Re: [tor-talk] Funded search engine for onionspace?

2015-03-05 Thread Virgil Griffith
I'm not too surprised that list ruffled some feathers. Per your request, I'll take it down. :) If/when people get more used to the idea of being seen on the clear-net the Disallowed might be resurrected. Give the changes a few days to propagate. -V On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 1:16 AM, George Kadia

Re: [tor-talk] Funded search engine for onionspace?

2015-03-05 Thread grarpamp
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:16 PM, George Kadianakis >> wrote: > FWIW, none of the above will actually help against a non-experienced > user that uses tor2web to connect to an onion by mistake. > ... > human factor If users are that dumb then you can expect them to also be doing all sorts of ot

Re: [tor-talk] New Tor-based private mail system: Confidant Mail

2015-03-05 Thread Mike Ingle
HTTPS is now installed on the site. New version is up for download. On 2/3/2015 9:33 AM, krishna e bera wrote: On 15-02-02 09:57 PM, Mike Ingle wrote: http://www.confidantmail.org Mike Ingle d2b89e6f95e72e26e0c917d02d1847dfecfcd0c2 I am curious why someone delivering security and pr

Re: [tor-talk] New Tor project idea for internet comments

2015-03-05 Thread Lara
Yuri: > Who/how will decide what resources will such comments be attached to? > Where are they stored? You mention "relay" and "tor app". But there is > no such thing as "tor app". Do you mean having something like > distributed hash? Who will own such data? What is the way to ensure they > don't d

Re: [tor-talk] New Tor project idea for internet comments

2015-03-05 Thread Yuri
On 03/04/2015 10:05, Lee Malek wrote: I have an idea for a tor sub-project that would serve our purpose (fighting censorship) perfectly. I think your description is very vague, and lacks details, therefore inviting only generic replies. Who/how will decide what resources will such comments

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread Juan
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 05:37:58 -0600 goofyzrn...@vfemail.net wrote: > Travis Bean: > > a Gestapo government run amok! > > > > The terminology "Gestapo" translates to seventeen different > > organizations > > (http://www.intelligence.gov/mission/member-agencies.html) > > > > the Gestapo government he

Re: [tor-talk] Bitmask and Tor

2015-03-05 Thread Ruben Pollan
Quoting Lara (2015-03-05 17:34:06) > Have you used Bitmask over Tor? > Have you written about your experience? Right now you can not use bitmask over Tor, because up to now bitmask does VPN on udp only and Tor only routes tcp connections. There is plans for near future to support doing the VPN o

Re: [tor-talk] New Tor project idea for internet comments

2015-03-05 Thread Juan
On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 06:52:47 +0100 Andreas Krey wrote: > On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 17:26:32 +, Juan wrote: > ... > > Prime example : A country like china is firewalled so the > > pentagon can't spy on the chinese internet directly. Hence, > > tor. > > And how, exactly, does tor help

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials blah blah bleh blah

2015-03-05 Thread Travis Bean
On 03/05/2015 11:07 AM, t...@t-3.net wrote: > > On 03:05:2015, Travis Bean wrote: > > > Stuff > > I wonder if this giant pile of mess you've posted in this mailing list > is related to the products/services you are trying to sell on the web > site linked in your sig? > > I didn't like what

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials blah blah bleh blah

2015-03-05 Thread tor
On 03:05:2015, Travis Bean wrote: > Stuff I wonder if this giant pile of mess you've posted in this mailing list is related to the products/services you are trying to sell on the web site linked in your sig? I didn't like what I read there. You seem to be offering more than is possible wit

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread Travis Bean
On 03/05/2015 04:33 AM, Ben Tasker wrote: >> When it comes to those of you from the UK, your bizarre "conspiracy >> theory" rhetoric is starting to get just a tad bit too creepy and >> indicates it is time to get a grip on reality. > > Because in the absence of evidence, it is just that - a conspi

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread Lara
Goltz, Jim (NIH/CIT) [E]: > If a list stops fulfilling these criteria, people like us > unsubscribe, leaving the list to its inevitable decline, destined to > join the ever-lengthening roll of moribund, flame-filled lists that > no longer exist or have ceased to serve any useful function on the > n

[tor-talk] Bitmask and Tor

2015-03-05 Thread Lara
Have you used Bitmask over Tor? Have you written about your experience? Do share. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread Goltz, Jim (NIH/CIT) [E]
> So you use your perceived authority of an upset citizen to mask your > incapacity to use filters? Not all of us read this list on a MUA that has easy-to-use filters. We generally subscribe to lists that contain useful information, have a high signal-to-noise ratio, and are subscribed to by us

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread Kevin
On 3/5/2015 6:37 AM, goofyzrn...@vfemail.net wrote: Travis Bean: a Gestapo government run amok! The terminology "Gestapo" translates to seventeen different organizations (http://www.intelligence.gov/mission/member-agencies.html) the Gestapo government here in the United States The Gestapo se

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread Lara
mick: > Now can we all stop rising to troll bait? So you use your perceived authority of an upset citizen to mask your incapacity to use filters? -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/l

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread Lara
Ben Tasker: >> Another example of hypocrisy is America. There's no government >> established killing camp system but at least 50 million have been >> murdered since 1972/73 through abortion. In all of the former examples >> it was deemed that there is a life not worth living and they aren't >> real

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread mick
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 04:15:57 -0800 Travis Bean allegedly wrote: > On 03/05/2015 01:57 AM, Ben Tasker wrote: > > You claim to have proof of this conspiracy, but have simply provided > > conjecture based on the fact a number of sites (including Fox News) > > block access from (certain) tor exit nod

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread Ben Tasker
> Please do pay attention to the terms you are using. > > A theory is a part of the scientific trajectory. What you are debating > is a speculation at best, a delirium at least. Whilst I agree with you, I think it's reasonable to say that a lot of conspiracy theories wander into that bracket. You'

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread s7r
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 3/5/2015 3:00 PM, Lara wrote: > Ben Tasker: >> Because in the absence of evidence, it is just that - a >> conspiracy theory. You're asserting that Fox and the Govt (or at >> least some of it's agencies) are conspiring, but have provided no >> re

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread Lara
Ben Tasker: > Because in the absence of evidence, it is just that - a conspiracy > theory. You're asserting that Fox and the Govt (or at least some of > it's agencies) are conspiring, but have provided no real no evidence > to support it, hence theory. Please do pay attention to the terms you ar

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread Travis Bean
On 03/05/2015 04:33 AM, Ben Tasker wrote: > There have been reports for quite some time of Fox blocking tor exits (see > for example > https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2015-January/036472.html), > though I don't know when senate/usps started. This report on tor-talk (https://lists.t

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread Ben Tasker
> Another example of hypocrisy is America. There's no government > established killing camp system but at least 50 million have been > murdered since 1972/73 through abortion. In all of the former examples > it was deemed that there is a life not worth living and they aren't > really "people". Such

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread andre76
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015, at 12:37 PM, goofyzrn...@vfemail.net wrote: > Travis Bean: > > a Gestapo government run amok! > > > > The terminology "Gestapo" translates to seventeen different > > organizations (http://www.intelligence.gov/mission/member-agencies.html) > > > > the Gestapo government here i

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread goofyzrnssm
Travis Bean: a Gestapo government run amok! The terminology "Gestapo" translates to seventeen different organizations (http://www.intelligence.gov/mission/member-agencies.html) the Gestapo government here in the United States The Gestapo sent millions of people to death camps [1-5]. The co

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread Ben Tasker
> When it comes to those of you from the UK, your bizarre "conspiracy > theory" rhetoric is starting to get just a tad bit too creepy and > indicates it is time to get a grip on reality. Because in the absence of evidence, it is just that - a conspiracy theory. You're asserting that Fox and the Go

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread Travis Bean
On 03/05/2015 01:57 AM, Ben Tasker wrote: > You claim to have proof of this conspiracy, but have simply provided > conjecture based on the fact a number of sites (including Fox News) block > access from (certain) tor exit nodes. That some sites block tor users is > neither news or outright proof of

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread Andreas Krey
On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 23:53:04 +, Travis Bean wrote: ... > It seems highly suspicious that those of you on this mailing list, who > continue to make this out to be something other than the original post, > are all mysteriously in the same boat with this scoundrel Rupert Murdoch. The "you're eith

Re: [tor-talk] Funded search engine for onionspace?

2015-03-05 Thread George Kadianakis
grarpamp writes: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:16 PM, George Kadianakis > wrote: >> I find their concern very valid > > Respectfully... invalid. Onions are going to be mined, shared, leaked, > indexed, and copied anyways. And most certainly by your adversaries. > Do we forget merely publishing an

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread Ben Tasker
> Why would I go to the bother of filing police reports if this was > all make believe??? If you didn't believe it was 'make believe' then you might file reports, even if it truly is make believe. > Those of you from the UK, who are in the same boat with this lying, > conniving meth dealer Rupert

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-05 Thread Travis Bean
On 03/04/2015 10:49 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > The OP writes about widely known digital surveillance and political > corruption, > then seems to conclude that both are aimed at his own personal activity. > The missing threads that would otherwise connect the two plus the heightened > language le

Re: [tor-talk] Funded search engine for onionspace?

2015-03-05 Thread grarpamp
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:16 PM, George Kadianakis wrote: > I find their concern very valid Respectfully... invalid. Onions are going to be mined, shared, leaked, indexed, and copied anyways. And most certainly by your adversaries. Do we forget merely publishing an onion to the dirs results in ac