Re: [tor-talk] more sites requiring captchas from Cloudfare (using Google API?)

2014-09-15 Thread gus
> Has anyone else noticed Cloudflare captchas on sites that they would > otherwise expect to be run by Tor-friendly entities? Hi, why not also suggest to Tor-friendly entities to follow the "Providers' Commitment for Privacy (PCP)"[1]? "Short overview of level 3 - All services are also availabl

Re: [tor-talk] more sites requiring captchas from Cloudfare (using Google API?)

2014-09-15 Thread isis
Mike Perry transcribed 3.6K bytes: > I too find this situation unacceptable, since it seems to have been > unilaterally decided by CloudFlare and not by their customers who are > paying them. It has also proven to be buggy: I've gotten infinite > captcha loops, no captchas, and broken no-JS support

Re: [tor-talk] more sites requiring captchas from Cloudfare (using Google API?)

2014-09-15 Thread isis
Mike Perry transcribed 3.6K bytes: > I think the next step here is to try to gather a list of cloudflare > customers we suspect to be Tor friendly, and have them politely request > that their Tor users not be discriminated in this way, and failing that, > publicly leave Cloudflare for a competing I

[tor-talk] Tor relay on home computer

2014-09-15 Thread Daniel Roskams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I want to support Tor and I want to run a relay on my home computer. Is it fine to do that because the IP address keeps changing every 1-2 weeks. I know how to edit the config and everything else. Sorry if I posted on the wrong place. - --Daniel

Re: [tor-talk] more sites requiring captchas from Cloudfare (using Google API?)

2014-09-15 Thread Daniel Roskams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have experienced this problem many, many times. Seems that I am not the only one! I agree that we need to do something about it. (complaining/persuading to Cloudflare etc.) and without JS all the captchas are buggy and useless. On 16/09/14 07:45, Jo

[tor-talk] Tor & JavaScript

2014-09-15 Thread Katya Titov
Öyvind Saether, in a thread about captchas: > I am not sure this is something most corporations would care about > since Tor users tend to block their (javascript-using) advertisements > anyway but webmasters, know that I am probably not the only one who > will go somewhere else instead of enabling

Re: [tor-talk] Comcast looking for Tor traffic, contacting customers to threaten termination of service.

2014-09-15 Thread Juan
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:41:34 -0400 Rick wrote: > On 09/15/2014 01:37 PM, Andrew Lewman wrote: > > On 09/13/2014 06:35 PM, The Doctor wrote: > >> "Reports have surfaced that Comcast agents have contacted customers > >> using Tor and instructed them to stop using the browser or risk > >> terminatio

Re: [tor-talk] more sites requiring captchas from Cloudfare (using Google API?)

2014-09-15 Thread John Pinkman
> Using TBB, I've noticed a LOT more captchas in the last couple months - > just to view the front page, or see the page linked from a search > through StartPage or Ixquick. > Some of the same sites presenting captchas in TBB, I tested in Firefox > (31, 32) & did not get a captcha.  But, I didn't r

Re: [tor-talk] mildly updated statistical analysis of Tor metrics data

2014-09-15 Thread stn
hi virgil my skills are old but i might be of use. are you using a single dependent/outcome variable (eg multiple regression) model or are what i think of as a "real" multivariate model? (multiple independent variables and multiple dependent variables) ? if multiple regression i can likely be

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor (was: Re: Comcast looking for Tor traffic, contacting customers to threaten termination of service.)

2014-09-15 Thread Andrew Lewman
I just read through this massive thread. I agree with killing the thread. The topic is important, but now no longer constructive for tor-talk. Please no more replies to the thread. Thanks. -- Andrew pgp 0x6B4D6475 https://www.torproject.org/ +1-781-948-1982 -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@l

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor

2014-09-15 Thread Andrew Lewman
On 09/15/2014 07:35 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Those who matter do. A well written article or two on such things > would undoubtedly be useful on occasion to point to, and in this > (type of) thread in particular, it seems to me that referring to such > an article early on may be about the most

Re: [tor-talk] mildly updated statistical analysis of Tor metrics data

2014-09-15 Thread Virgil Griffith
I just realized there's a better way to control for some of these effects using multivariate models. Another update will come later. -V -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor

[tor-talk] mildly updated statistical analysis of Tor metrics data

2014-09-15 Thread Virgil Griffith
URL: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SaBK664SchhZOP9XBsB8KK63k4xlmMTlkhfF28f2204/pub New highlights: * After filtering out the bot-net window, there's a stronger relationship between increasing advertised bandwidth and faster Torperf. * Corroborated the above finding by showing that low "re

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor

2014-09-15 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 09/16/2014 01:35 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Those who matter do. +1 -- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/ -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor

2014-09-15 Thread Patrick
> Most people on tor-talk don't necessarily care to hear about these topics (or do they?) but we're all out there fighting the good fight. Our work just isn't salacious enough to merit a poorly-written gossip column. While I completely understand Tor people's reservations about the press you've re

Re: [tor-talk] more sites requiring captchas from Cloudfare (using Google API?)

2014-09-15 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 9/15/2014 4:16 PM, Mike Perry wrote: Öyvind Saether: These captchas recently started appearing (more often) on all kinds of sites. By far the most common name that pops up associated with this security is "Cloudfare," but also some others. Aside from being forced to allow scripts in NoScri

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor

2014-09-15 Thread Zenaan Harkness
> Anonymous wrote: >>On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Ted Smith wrote: >>> Tor as a technology and community helps women and >>> humans far more than it hurts them, >> >>This is to the side of your main point (with which I am largely in >>agreement), and I mean this in the most serious and respe

Re: [tor-talk] more sites requiring captchas from Cloudfare (using Google API?)

2014-09-15 Thread Mike Perry
Öyvind Saether: > > These captchas recently started appearing (more often) on all kinds > > of sites. By far the most common name that pops up associated with > > this security is "Cloudfare," but also some others. > > Aside from being forced to allow scripts in NoScript from Cloudfare > > for th

[tor-talk] Existential threats to Tor (HS Content?)

2014-09-15 Thread grarpamp
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Ted Smith wrote: > This thread is a good example of basic human rights for women being > neutrally debated on tor-talk, by men. > ... > Since Tor's infrastructure relies entirely on volunteer contributions, > this makes discussion of the morality of some hidden se

Re: [tor-talk] more sites requiring captchas from Cloudfare (using Google API?)

2014-09-15 Thread JT Allison
Nick Sullivan from CloudFlare responded on twitter yesterday that they're trying to make sites more accessible. https://twitter.com/grittygrease/status/511283723514290176 Also this https://twitter.com/xxdesmus/status/511283225818189825 --- GPG/PGP Fingerprint E129 722B A512 105C E8BE 4705 8046 E

Re: [tor-talk] more sites requiring captchas from Cloudfare (using Google API?)

2014-09-15 Thread Öyvind Saether
> These captchas recently started appearing (more often) on all kinds > of sites. By far the most common name that pops up associated with > this security is "Cloudfare," but also some others. > Aside from being forced to allow scripts in NoScript from Cloudfare > for the captcha to work (or whic

[tor-talk] more sites requiring captchas from Cloudfare (using Google API?)

2014-09-15 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Using TBB, I've noticed a LOT more captchas in the last couple months - just to view the front page, or see the page linked from a search through StartPage or Ixquick. Some of the same sites presenting captchas in TBB, I tested in Firefox (31, 32) & did not get a captcha. But, I didn't repeat t

Re: [tor-talk] Comcast looking for Tor traffic, contacting customers to threaten termination of service.

2014-09-15 Thread Rick
On 09/15/2014 01:37 PM, Andrew Lewman wrote: On 09/13/2014 06:35 PM, The Doctor wrote: "Reports have surfaced that Comcast agents have contacted customers using Tor and instructed them to stop using the browser or risk termination of service. A Comcast agent named Jeremy allegedly called Tor an

Re: [tor-talk] Torbutton "load external content"

2014-09-15 Thread isis
SecTech transcribed 1.2K bytes: > Hi, > I have accidently checked the do not ask again checkbox of the "load > external content" security question in TBB. Could someone tell me how > to reenable it? > Hey, If you go to `about:config` and search for the `extensions.torbutton.launch_warning` prefe

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor

2014-09-15 Thread Griffin Boyce
As some of the list knows, my introduction to Tor was while working on a peer counseling project that primarily served women. Even now, the *vast* majority of people that I teach about online privacy and security are women in very high-risk situations -- frequently involving stalking, domestic v

Re: [tor-talk] Comcast looking for Tor traffic, contacting customers to threaten termination of service.

2014-09-15 Thread Mirimir
On 09/15/2014 11:37 AM, Andrew Lewman wrote: > On 09/13/2014 06:35 PM, The Doctor wrote: >> "Reports have surfaced that Comcast agents have contacted customers >> using Tor and instructed them to stop using the browser or risk >> termination of service. A Comcast agent named Jeremy allegedly called

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor

2014-09-15 Thread Mirimir
On 09/15/2014 10:29 AM, Ted Smith wrote: > This thread is a good example of basic human rights for women being > neutrally debated on tor-talk, by men. That's a mischaracterization. Only one poster has defended the site. If I had the skills and resources, I'd take it down. Maybe I'll take a shot,

Re: [tor-talk] Comcast looking for Tor traffic, contacting customers to threaten termination of service.

2014-09-15 Thread Andrew Lewman
On 09/13/2014 06:35 PM, The Doctor wrote: > "Reports have surfaced that Comcast agents have contacted customers > using Tor and instructed them to stop using the browser or risk > termination of service. A Comcast agent named Jeremy allegedly called > Tor an “illegal service.” The Comcast agent tol

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor (was: Re: Comcast looking for Tor traffic, contacting customers to threaten termination of service.)

2014-09-15 Thread Ted Smith
On Mon, 2014-09-15 at 10:00 -0700, Damian Johnson wrote: > > This is to the side of your main point (with which I am largely in > > agreement), and I mean this in the most serious and respectful way > > possible: can you point to statistics, metrics, data that support this > > point? > > > > I susp

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor (was: Re: Comcast looking for Tor traffic, contacting customers to threaten termination of service.)

2014-09-15 Thread Damian Johnson
> This is to the side of your main point (with which I am largely in > agreement), and I mean this in the most serious and respectful way > possible: can you point to statistics, metrics, data that support this > point? > > I suspect the opposite is true, but I very much want to know the real > fac

Re: [tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor (was: Re: Comcast looking for Tor traffic, contacting customers to threaten termination of service.)

2014-09-15 Thread z9wahqvh
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Ted Smith wrote: > Tor as a technology and community helps women and humans far more than > it hurts them, > This is to the side of your main point (with which I am largely in agreement), and I mean this in the most serious and respectful way possible: can you p

[tor-talk] Misogyny on tor-talk is an existential threat to Tor (was: Re: Comcast looking for Tor traffic, contacting customers to threaten termination of service.)

2014-09-15 Thread Ted Smith
This thread is a good example of basic human rights for women being neutrally debated on tor-talk, by men. While this is a subject that most if not all men can discuss neutrally, it's a much more personal topic for most women, and seeing this "discussed" (or rather: seeing the sexual assault of wo

[tor-talk] Fwd: [guardian-dev] Orbot v14.0.8.1 (now with Tor 0.2.5.x)

2014-09-15 Thread Nathan Freitas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for all the hard work, "little t" Tor devs. We are really excited about moving to 0.2.5.x for Orbot. - Forwarded Message Subject: [guardian-dev] Orbot v14.0.8.1 (now with Tor 0.2.5.x) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 09:45:05 -0400 Fro

Re: [tor-talk] Using the Firefox 'Sync' in Tor

2014-09-15 Thread RD
Hello Kyle,Tuesday, September 9, 2014, 10:49:50 PM, you wrote: > Seems to me that would likely be problematic from an OPSEC / anonymity Indeed you are correct. However, I guessed, whether correct or incorrect, that on my home personal computer it may be a passable solution. And I discovered a wa

Re: [tor-talk] Comcast looking for Tor traffic, contacting customers to threaten termination of service.

2014-09-15 Thread Mirimir
On 09/15/2014 12:02 AM, grarpamp wrote: > On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Mirimir wrote: >> I consider PinkMeth to be far worse, and far worse for Tor's public >> image, than anything I've seen before. It dehumanizes and exploits the >> women, of course. But it also corrupts and perverts its user