Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread krishna e bera
On 14-07-23 07:05 PM, Tempest wrote: > Kristy Chambers: >> Have I written, that there is anything creepy about that? >> The basic question is, in how the tor project can be trusted if we look >> on suspicious activities of tor developers (e.g. choosing worse design >> decisions). > > the fundament

Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread Cypher
On 2014-07-23 18:05, Tempest wrote: Kristy Chambers: Have I written, that there is anything creepy about that? The basic question is, in how the tor project can be trusted if we look on suspicious activities of tor developers (e.g. choosing worse design decisions). the fundamental logical fa

Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread Tempest
Kristy Chambers: > Have I written, that there is anything creepy about that? > The basic question is, in how the tor project can be trusted if we look > on suspicious activities of tor developers (e.g. choosing worse design > decisions). the fundamental logical fallacy that one has to accept in or

Re: [tor-talk] apt-transport-tor, hidden service usage to reduce exit load? exit enclaves dead?

2014-07-23 Thread Tim Retout
On Wed, 2014-07-23 at 21:27 +, Nusenu wrote: > I was wondering if it makes sense to use hidden service addresses to > access apt mirrors instead of going through an exit to reduce the load > on exit relays? I'm interested in the answer to this question, because I keep changing my mind as to wh

Re: [tor-talk] apt-transport-tor, hidden service usage to reduce exit load? exit enclaves dead?

2014-07-23 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 07/23/2014 11:27 PM, Nusenu wrote: > I was wondering if it makes sense to use hidden service addresses to > access apt mirrors instead of going through an exit to reduce the load > on exit relays? Interesting, but you obviously add more load to the network then. > Is the concept of exit enclav

Re: [tor-talk] How to Identify my first hop peer in Tor Browser

2014-07-23 Thread Nusenu
> Dear Sir, > > Please let me How to Identify my first hop peer in Tor Browser It is not possible to display your current circuits in tor browser. If that information is crucial to you you might connect vidalia to your running tor instance via the control port. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-t

[tor-talk] apt-transport-tor, hidden service usage to reduce exit load? exit enclaves dead?

2014-07-23 Thread Nusenu
There is a new debian package that allows debian user to easily use apt with tor. https://packages.debian.org/sid/apt-transport-tor I was wondering if it makes sense to use hidden service addresses to access apt mirrors instead of going through an exit to reduce the load on exit relays? Is the

[tor-talk] Question about relay status

2014-07-23 Thread Cypher
I run an exit relay that's been up for a few months now. The other day, I had to reboot the server and my relay information is saying it's only been up for 4 days with a consensus score of 32. Is that normal? Is this good/bad/indifferent? Thanks! Cypher -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@list

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser window size

2014-07-23 Thread grarpamp
Can't TBB also alternativly just rig the functions that report window size to report whatever size you tell it, regardless of actual size? ie 1024x768x24 . If so, someone should ticket the enhancement. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser window size

2014-07-23 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 7/23/2014 2:49 AM, Georg Koppen wrote: Red Sonja: I'm running the latest TBB on linux32. How do I reset the window size? I moved one side by mistake and I can't set it back by hand. Each time I run it, it's the window size from the last session. That should not happen. If you resize a window

Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread Sukhbir Singh
> Have I written, that there is anything creepy about that? > The basic question is, in how the tor project can be trusted if we look > on suspicious activities of tor developers (e.g. choosing worse design > decisions). I am not sure what you mean by "choosing worse design decisions"? The timing

Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread Martin S
You mean ARPA-net? Oops On 23 Jul 2014, Sarah wrote: >Shh, don't let them find out that the military has had ties to the >Internet since before it was the Internet. The concentrated hysteria >might warp the space-time continuum. > >On July 23, 2014 9:02:46 AM EDT, Moritz Bartl >wrote: >>

Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread Elrippo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Muuuhhh :D That's a nice one :* On 23. Juli 2014 16:50:52 MESZ, Sarah wrote: >Shh, don't let them find out that the military has had ties to the >Internet since before it was the Internet. The concentrated hysteria >might warp the space-tim

Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread Scott Arciszewski
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:43:24 +0100 mick wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 11:15:15 + > Kristy Chambers allegedly wrote: > > > Interesting article published few days ago. Any comments? > > http://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-spooks/ > > Shock, Horror, "Internet built from US Gov funding" > > http:/

Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread Sarah
Shh, don't let them find out that the military has had ties to the Internet since before it was the Internet. The concentrated hysteria might warp the space-time continuum. On July 23, 2014 9:02:46 AM EDT, Moritz Bartl wrote: >On 07/23/2014 02:24 PM, Kristy Chambers wrote: >> Have I written, t

Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread mick
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 11:15:15 + Kristy Chambers allegedly wrote: > Interesting article published few days ago. Any comments? > http://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-spooks/ Shock, Horror, "Internet built from US Gov funding" http://www.internetsociety.org/internet/what-internet/history-internet/br

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: Tor and tlk.io

2014-07-23 Thread Sukhbir Singh
> Hi can any one tell me how i can find my first peer hop usin tor bowser, I > academically need it to know You can do this with Stem: https://stem.torproject.org/ -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/

Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread s7r
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/23/2014 2:15 PM, Kristy Chambers wrote: > Interesting article published few days ago. Any comments? > http://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-spooks/ > This is some nice piece of troll fuel, I got to say. The fact that Tor receives donations from US go

Re: [tor-talk] Questions about NSA monitoring of Tor users.

2014-07-23 Thread Patrick Schleizer
Артур Истомин: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 12:17:14PM +, Patrick Schleizer wrote: >> Nice graphic. Looks similar for any country! Exponential growth of >> debts. But not because mainly more and more money is wasted, it is the >> money system itself that is broken. One of the biggest frauds ever.

Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread Elrippo Athletico
Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2014, 14:24:55 schrieb Kristy Chambers: > Have I written, that there is anything creepy about that? > The basic question is, in how the tor project can be trusted if we look > on suspicious activities of tor developers (e.g. choosing worse design > decisions). > > > I am awar

[tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — July 23rd, 2014

2014-07-23 Thread Lunar
Tor Weekly News July 23rd, 2014 Welcome to the twenty-ninth issue of Tor Weekly News in 2014, the weekly newsle

Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 07/23/2014 02:24 PM, Kristy Chambers wrote: > Have I written, that there is anything creepy about that? > The basic question is, in how the tor project can be trusted if we look > on suspicious activities of tor developers (e.g. choosing worse design > decisions). The whole process is open; Tor

Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread Red Sonja
Kristy Chambers: > Interesting article published few days ago. Any comments? > http://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-spooks/ Interesting how? Comments on what? So far that is just troll bait. /dev/null is usefull in these cases. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- tor-talk mai

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: Tor and tlk.io

2014-07-23 Thread Abrar Ahmed
Hi can any one tell me how i can find my first peer hop usin tor bowser, I academically need it to know Abrar Ahmed Software Engineer University of Gujrat 0336-5830840 ab...@uog.edu.pk mirzab...@gmail.com mirzaabrarah...@yaho

Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread Abrar Ahmed
please tell me ho can i find my first peer hop while using tor browser Abrar Ahmed Software Engineer University of Gujrat 0336-5830840 ab...@uog.edu.pk mirzab...@gmail.com mirzaabrarah...@yahoo.com On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at

Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread Kristy Chambers
Have I written, that there is anything creepy about that? The basic question is, in how the tor project can be trusted if we look on suspicious activities of tor developers (e.g. choosing worse design decisions). > I am aware for what this was build and is used, you not? It's very pathetic to stat

[tor-talk] Tor developers vow to fix bug that can uncloak users

2014-07-23 Thread Eugen Leitl
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/07/tor-developers-vow-to-fix-bug-that-can-uncloak-users/ Tor developers vow to fix bug that can uncloak users Weakness was topic of talk abruptly pulled from security conference. by Dan Goodin - July 22 2014, 8:15pm CEST Developers of the Tor privacy serv

Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread harmony
> Interesting article published few days ago. Any comments? > http://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-spooks/ I am agog at the badness of this article. "If you read the fine print on Tor’s website, you’ll see that Tor is still very much in active use by the US government..." By 'fine print', do you mean

Re: [tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread Elrippo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Yes, and what's new or creepy about that? I am aware for what this was build and is used, you not? On 23. Juli 2014 13:15:15 MESZ, Kristy Chambers wrote: >Interesting article published few days ago. Any comments? >http://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-s

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: Tor and tlk.io

2014-07-23 Thread Red Sonja
Scott Arciszewski: > I'm using the latest version of the Tor Browser Bundle. It gives me this > prompt: http://imgur.com/ZGqzK4Z That's something else. > http://www.propublica.org/article/meet-the-online-tracking-device-that-is-virtually-impossible-to-block > ^- possibly related Yea. That Schnei

[tor-talk] Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

2014-07-23 Thread Kristy Chambers
Interesting article published few days ago. Any comments? http://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-spooks/ -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

Re: [tor-talk] hardware acceleration OK or not?

2014-07-23 Thread Georg Koppen
Joe Btfsplk: > > On 6/28/2014 4:54 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 01:27:50PM -0500, Joe Btfsplk wrote: >>> Hardware acceleration is unchecked by default it Torbrowser. >>> >>> Other than some machines might not support it, is there a reason not >>> to enabled it? >>> >>> So

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser window size

2014-07-23 Thread Georg Koppen
Red Sonja: > I'm running the latest TBB on linux32. How do I reset the window size? I > moved one side by mistake and I can't set it back by hand. Each time I > run it, it's the window size from the last session. That should not happen. If you resize a window and then e.g. click on "New Identity"

Re: [tor-talk] I can't use tor in state university's campus network...

2014-07-23 Thread Martin Kepplinger
Am 2014-07-21 18:40, schrieb ttzeqq: > I am in US.What can I do? > the hard way would be to raise awareness, find a responsible prof or admin and talk to people why Tor might be interesting especially for students. prepare yourself with https://www.eff.org/torchallenge/tor-on-campus.html for examp

Re: [tor-talk] I can't use tor in state university's campus network...

2014-07-23 Thread Griffin Boyce
ttzeqq wrote: > I am in US.What can I do? The easiest way to bypass such a restriction is to select Configure when launching TorBrowser, select No when asked if you need to use a proxy, then select Yes when asked if the firewall only allows access to certain ports. Here are some screensho