On 14-07-23 07:05 PM, Tempest wrote: > Kristy Chambers: >> Have I written, that there is anything creepy about that? >> The basic question is, in how the tor project can be trusted if we look >> on suspicious activities of tor developers (e.g. choosing worse design >> decisions). > > the fundamental logical fallacy that one has to accept in order for the > article to raise alarm is that everything the us government agencies do > that are mentioned is evil. for how large the us government is, in > particular the agencies mentioned, reaching such a conclusion should be > treated with a high degree of skepticism.
Sure, but it isnt so black and white. Just as with media funding, the stories that are aired arent necessarily false or propaganda - such evaluations can be and are made by organizations like FAIR[0]. However, the choice of *which* stories to post and which ones to omit and which ones to put investigative resources into, *is* heavily influenced by funding - otherwise known as setting the agenda. Tor Project had to refuse funding from a donor who was deemed some kind of enemy of the US govt[1]. This should raise suspicions that the project may not be developing in its most productive direction(s) for the other parties that could or do use Tor (e.g. hidden service operators, copyright pirates, anti-capitalists, whistleblowers, enemies of the US govt). (Despite the idealism, good reputation and best intentions of various Tor Project members.) It isnt just a matter of looking for bad code or design decisions, we should look at what code isnt there or what other non-code aspects of the project arent covered well. As Moritz Bartl suggested recently, a second pool of funding and centre of development expertise outside US influence would remedy the potential problem of (interested portions of) the US govt setting the agenda, broaden the base of support, and perhaps even reduce some of the trolling! (Sadly, i dont have time right now to do this.) [0] http://fair.org [1] https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2014-June/033255.html -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
