Re: [tor-talk] Tor exit+proxy

2012-01-06 Thread Javier Bassi
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 3:21 AM, wrote: > Do you mean 1) the exit node admin should setup to use an open proxy to > protect him? Or 2) do you mean if the users would in some cases set this up > their self? > > For case 1) this wouldn't be the most wise thing to do... Explanation... > > Those ope

Re: [tor-talk] Tor exit+proxy

2012-01-06 Thread hmoh
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: > >> Now imagine the idea Tor + open proxy gets promoted because the devs > >> encourage that with a new option like Tor + your personal extra proxy > >> chain... That wouldn't give Tor more credibility as it would be even > >> harder to s

Re: [tor-talk] browser with best privacy without using Tornetwork

2012-01-06 Thread andrew
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 10:37:32AM -0800, helia...@gmail.com wrote 1.5K bytes in 49 lines about: : My Mozilla Firefox browser (most recent version) slows down after : about 15 minutes, so that it becomes inoperable. Could this be : happening as a way to prevent someone using TOR/Vidalia? What's y

Re: [tor-talk] Tor exit+proxy

2012-01-06 Thread hmoh
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 03:30, wrote: > > It's not recommend. And for cleartext http (not https) there will be now > > not one, but two servers who can log and tamper your cleartext traffic. > > So there is no principal difference from a security standpoint. > > > There is a paper where they

Re: [tor-talk] Tor exit+proxy

2012-01-06 Thread hmoh
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 03:30, wrote: > > It's not recommend. And for cleartext http (not https) there will be now > > not one, but two servers who can log and tamper your cleartext traffic. > > So there is no principal difference from a security standpoint. Agreed. Just the more proxy's coul

Re: [tor-talk] Bootstrap speed of Tor Client

2012-01-06 Thread andrew
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 01:33:58PM +0100, li...@infosecurity.ch wrote 0.6K bytes in 19 lines about: : i did noticed that Tor sometime take a lot of time to make a bootstrap, : especially when using private bridge. : Wouldn't make sense to ship Tor client with latest available consensus : and direc

Re: [tor-talk] Tor exit+proxy

2012-01-06 Thread Javier Bassi
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: >> Now imagine the idea Tor + open proxy gets promoted because the devs >> encourage that with a new option like Tor + your personal extra proxy >> chain... That wouldn't give Tor more credibility as it would be even harder >> to stop abuse

Re: [tor-talk] Tor exit+proxy

2012-01-06 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 03:30, wrote: > It's not recommend. And for cleartext http (not https) there will be now not > one, but two servers who can log and tamper your cleartext traffic. So there is no principal difference from a security standpoint. > There is a paper where they explain the ch

Re: [tor-talk] Tor exit+proxy

2012-01-06 Thread hmoh
> I know about proxychains and windows implementations of it and I > woudn`t ask for help if it was that easy as "proxychains > firefox" :) Oh no offense. I added it for completely reasons. And I think proxychains isn't that well known. > VPN through Tor is in my todo list, so i will appreciate

Re: [tor-talk] TorVPN new instructions in tor wiki, need a little help with iptables

2012-01-06 Thread hmoh
> > What iptables rules have to be used to forward everything through Tor? > > I've never tried it but I'm pretty sure this is what you're looking for... > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TransparentProxy Unfortunately not. The TransparentProxy is good. TorVPN somehow based on

Re: [tor-talk] Tor exit+proxy

2012-01-06 Thread Greg Kalitnikoff
Hi, thanks for detailed reply! I know about proxychains and windows implementations of it and I woudn`t ask for help if it was that easy as "proxychains firefox" :) But I checked again and proxychains with regular browser works with at least tor local socks5 proxy as 1st hop and http proxy as 2nd

Re: [tor-talk] TorVPN new instructions in tor wiki, need a little help with iptables

2012-01-06 Thread Damian Johnson
> What iptables rules have to be used to forward everything through Tor? I've never tried it but I'm pretty sure this is what you're looking for... https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TransparentProxy ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@list

[tor-talk] TorVPN new instructions in tor wiki, need a little help with iptables

2012-01-06 Thread hmoh
What iptables rules have to be used to forward everything through Tor? That's what I've got so far. https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorVPN Any help is greatly appreciated. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https:/

Re: [tor-talk] browser with best privacy without using Tornetwork

2012-01-06 Thread Scott MacLeod
Dear Roger et al., My Mozilla Firefox browser (most recent version) slows down after about 15 minutes, so that it becomes inoperable. Could this be happening as a way to prevent someone using TOR/Vidalia? Thanks, Scott On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:48 AM, wrote: > On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 11:19

Re: [tor-talk] No script blocker on new TBB

2012-01-06 Thread Koh Choon Lin
Hi On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:22 PM, wrote: > On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:45:06AM +0100, andr...@fastmail.fm wrote 0.5K > bytes in 14 lines about: > : I've found that the new TBB (Linux) doesn't have the Script blocker > : addon.  It used to be the letter "S" next to the web address bar. > > On w

Re: [tor-talk] sniffjoke/obfsproxy for defeating DPI:ing firewalls?

2012-01-06 Thread Brandon Wiley
I did testing of both sniffjoke and obfsproxy with Tor this summer. [1][2] I had trouble getting sniffjoke to work reliably enough to actually test its properties against DPI attacks. I found obfsproxy to be reliable, but at that time it was designed to work against only some of the known DPI attac

Re: [tor-talk] No script blocker on new TBB

2012-01-06 Thread andrew
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:45:06AM +0100, andr...@fastmail.fm wrote 0.5K bytes in 14 lines about: : I've found that the new TBB (Linux) doesn't have the Script blocker : addon. It used to be the letter "S" next to the web address bar. On which package do you see this lack of noscript? Noscript

[tor-talk] keyserver not responding

2012-01-06 Thread eliaz
Sometimes when I try to import a key as per the TBB download instructions the process works fine; but at other times the transaction goes as follows: C:\"Program Files (x86)"\Gnu\GnuPg\gpg2.exe --keyserver x-hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 0x63FEE659 gpg: requesting key 63FEE659 fro

Re: [tor-talk] sniffjoke/obfsproxy for defeating DPI:ing firewalls?

2012-01-06 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 01/06/2012 12:49 PM, anonym wrote: > Hi, > > It was recently suggested [1] that Tails [2] should include > sniffjoke [3], persumably to uncensor Tor in places where that is a > problem: > > Jacob Appelbaum wrote: >> Adding sniff joke may be quite useful and it should be an option: >> http://w

[tor-talk] sniffjoke/obfsproxy for defeating DPI:ing firewalls?

2012-01-06 Thread anonym
Hi, It was recently suggested [1] that Tails [2] should include sniffjoke [3], persumably to uncensor Tor in places where that is a problem: Jacob Appelbaum wrote: > Adding sniff joke may be quite useful and it should be an option: > http://www.delirandom.net/sniffjoke/ (Jacob is especially wel

[tor-talk] Bootstrap speed of Tor Client

2012-01-06 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
Hi, i did noticed that Tor sometime take a lot of time to make a bootstrap, especially when using private bridge. Wouldn't make sense to ship Tor client with latest available consensus and directory information already built-in? A part from the implementation complexity (on-the-fly packaging of

Re: [tor-talk] about TOR

2012-01-06 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 10:15:31AM +0100, François Huguet wrote: > An article about TOR, *Project Vigilant and BBHC Global* in french by > Primavera De Filippi: > > http://adam.hypotheses.org/1149 Short summary: Tor was created by the US Navy. Then hijacked by the EFF. And now it has been hijacke