Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-16 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 16.11.10 09:36, Ludwig Nussel ([email protected]) wrote: > > Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > On Mon, 15.11.10 16:50, Ludwig Nussel ([email protected]) wrote: > > > > > > > > Fixed this now. Ideally Debian/Ubuntu would stop renaming agetty like > > > > >

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-16 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 16.11.10 09:36, Ludwig Nussel ([email protected]) wrote: > >> >> Lennart Poettering wrote: >> > On Mon, 15.11.10 16:50, Ludwig Nussel ([email protected]) wrote: >> > >> > > > Fixed this now. Ideally Debian/Ubuntu would st

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 16.11.10 09:36, Ludwig Nussel ([email protected]) wrote: > > Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mon, 15.11.10 16:50, Ludwig Nussel ([email protected]) wrote: > > > > > > Fixed this now. Ideally Debian/Ubuntu would stop renaming agetty like > > > > this, or at least do it via symlin

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-16 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 15.11.10 16:50, Ludwig Nussel ([email protected]) wrote: > > > > Fixed this now. Ideally Debian/Ubuntu would stop renaming agetty like > > > this, or at least do it via symlink only. I'd love to get rid of the > > > differences between the distros here. > >

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 15.11.10 16:50, Ludwig Nussel ([email protected]) wrote: > > Fixed this now. Ideally Debian/Ubuntu would stop renaming agetty like > > this, or at least do it via symlink only. I'd love to get rid of the > > differences between the distros here. > > Why is the (a)getty service file p

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-15 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 03.11.10 22:49, Andrew Edmunds ([email protected]) wrote: > > > A few points about these two source files. > > 1. [email protected] has: > > > m4_ifdef(`TARGET_FEDORA', `m4_define(`GETTY', `/sbin/agetty > > > 38400')')m4_dnl > > > m4_ifdef(`TARGET_SUS

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-15 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Ludwig Nussel wrote: > > Lennart Poettering wrote: > > [...] > >> I am really not a big fan of Suse's $ALL extension. > > > > Making SuSEfirewall2 run last via $ALL mostly is a boot speed > > optimization. The filtering rules (pote

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-15 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Ludwig Nussel wrote: > Lennart Poettering wrote: >> On Thu, 11.11.10 14:06, Andreas Jaeger ([email protected]) wrote: >> > On Thursday 11 November 2010 12:50:44 Kay Sievers wrote: >> > > [...] >> > > > Anyway, the point of this was only to have getty start late(ish)

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-15 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 11.11.10 14:06, Andreas Jaeger ([email protected]) wrote: > > On Thursday 11 November 2010 12:50:44 Kay Sievers wrote: > > > [...] > > > > Anyway, the point of this was only to have getty start late(ish) in > > > > the boot process, after most of the other services

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Kay Sievers | On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 19:49, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | > ]] Kay Sievers | > | > | /etc/rc.local should not be in the default setup, it's legacy only | > | some distros did, and it does not make much sense in the systemd | > | context, especially not to run an empty shell script

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-14 Thread Kay Sievers
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 19:49, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Kay Sievers > > | /etc/rc.local should not be in the default setup, it's legacy only > | some distros did, and it does not make much sense in the systemd > | context, especially not to run an empty shell script. :) > > It's less legacy and

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Kay Sievers | /etc/rc.local should not be in the default setup, it's legacy only | some distros did, and it does not make much sense in the systemd | context, especially not to run an empty shell script. :) It's less legacy and more «stuff lazy sysadmins put there». From my own boxes I have

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-12 Thread Kay Sievers
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 00:37, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> 2. [email protected] invokes agetty with option "-s", which >> seems to have been recently added to agetty at Lennart's request. >> getty on Debian/Ubuntu doesn't have that option yet and I would >> guess that other distros may be

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-12 Thread Kay Sievers
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 03:19, LaMont Jones wrote: > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:49:11PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: >> > We can ask, but it has been that way for at least a decade so I'm >> > guessing it's unlikely to be changed now. See this Debian bug from >> > 2001, marked wontfix. >> > http://

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-12 Thread Kay Sievers
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 20:10, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 11.11.10 14:06, Andreas Jaeger ([email protected]) wrote: > >> >> On Thursday 11 November 2010 12:50:44 Kay Sievers wrote: >> > [...] >> > > Anyway, the point of this was only to have getty start late(ish) in >> > > the boot process,

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-12 Thread Kay Sievers
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 20:08, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 11.11.10 12:50, Kay Sievers ([email protected]) wrote: > >> > Anyway, the point of this was only to have getty start late(ish) in >> > the boot process, after most of the other services that are pulled in >> > by multi-user.targ

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-11 Thread LaMont Jones
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:49:11PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > > We can ask, but it has been that way for at least a decade so I'm > > guessing it's unlikely to be changed now. See this Debian bug from > > 2001, marked wontfix. > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=117596 > I pers

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 11.11.10 14:06, Andreas Jaeger ([email protected]) wrote: > > On Thursday 11 November 2010 12:50:44 Kay Sievers wrote: > > [...] > > > Anyway, the point of this was only to have getty start late(ish) in > > > the boot process, after most of the other services that are pulled in > > > by mul

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 11.11.10 12:50, Kay Sievers ([email protected]) wrote: > > Anyway, the point of this was only to have getty start late(ish) in > > the boot process, after most of the other services that are pulled in > > by multi-user.target. Maybe there is a better way to specify this, if > > not ever

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 11.11.10 21:39, Andrew Edmunds ([email protected]) wrote: > Kay, Lennart, > > Kay Sievers wrote: > > Michael, any chance to check if it's possible to avoid the mangling of > > common util-linux tool names, and get a symlink in Debian package? > > After that we can drop the ifdef

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-11 Thread Michael Biebl
On 11.11.2010 12:39, Andrew Edmunds wrote: > Kay, Lennart, > > Kay Sievers wrote: >> Michael, any chance to check if it's possible to avoid the mangling of >> common util-linux tool names, and get a symlink in Debian package? >> After that we can drop the ifdef stuff here. > > We can ask, but it

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-11 Thread Andreas Jaeger
On Thursday 11 November 2010 12:50:44 Kay Sievers wrote: > [...] > > Anyway, the point of this was only to have getty start late(ish) in > > the boot process, after most of the other services that are pulled in > > by multi-user.target. Maybe there is a better way to specify this, if > > not everyo

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-11 Thread Kay Sievers
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:39, Andrew Edmunds wrote: > Kay Sievers wrote: >> Michael, any chance to check if it's possible to avoid the mangling of >> common util-linux tool names, and get a symlink in Debian package? >> After that we can drop the ifdef stuff here. > > We can ask, but it has been

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-11 Thread Andrew Edmunds
Kay, Lennart, Kay Sievers wrote: > Michael, any chance to check if it's possible to avoid the mangling of > common util-linux tool names, and get a symlink in Debian package? > After that we can drop the ifdef stuff here. We can ask, but it has been that way for at least a decade so I'm guessing

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-11 Thread Kay Sievers
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 00:37, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 03.11.10 22:49, Andrew Edmunds ([email protected]) wrote: >> A few points about these two source files. >> >> 1. [email protected] has: >> > m4_ifdef(`TARGET_FEDORA', `m4_define(`GETTY', `/sbin/agetty 38400')')m4_dnl >>

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 03.11.10 22:49, Andrew Edmunds ([email protected]) wrote: > Hi, > > A few points about these two source files. > > 1. [email protected] has: > > m4_ifdef(`TARGET_FEDORA', `m4_define(`GETTY', `/sbin/agetty 38400')')m4_dnl > > m4_ifdef(`TARGET_SUSE', `m4_define(`GETTY', `/sbin/ag

Re: [systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-03 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 10:49:11PM +1000, Andrew Edmunds wrote: > > Incidentally, HP-UX used to have (possibly still has) a nice feature > where getty would normally be started at the end of the boot sequence > but you could press the Break key to start it immediately, if an > init script was hang

[systemd-devel] [email protected] and [email protected]

2010-11-03 Thread Andrew Edmunds
Hi, A few points about these two source files. 1. [email protected] has: > m4_ifdef(`TARGET_FEDORA', `m4_define(`GETTY', `/sbin/agetty 38400')')m4_dnl > m4_ifdef(`TARGET_SUSE', `m4_define(`GETTY', `/sbin/agetty 38400')')m4_dnl > m4_ifdef(`TARGET_DEBIAN', `m4_define(`GETTY', `/sbin/getty 38400')')