Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd questions

2013-11-13 Thread Bill Nottingham
Tom Gundersen ([email protected]) said: > Without criticizing any of the existing solutions, some of the things > that motivated my interest in this is that I think we need: something > easily configured via plain configuration files by a sysadmin, > something that would take a limited amount of space

Re: [systemd-devel] RFC: Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-05-22 Thread Bill Nottingham
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" ([email protected]) said: > On 05/22/2013 01:48 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: > >On 05/22/2013 04:00 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >>Did you file a bug against Anaconda? > >No, why would I? AFAIK, using the systemd-provided network interface > >names is the intended behav

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] condition: add option ConditionArchitecture

2013-03-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lukas Nykryn ([email protected]) said: > --- > TODO | 2 -- > man/systemd.unit.xml.in | 8 > src/core/condition.c | 16 > src/core/condition.h | 1 + > src/core/load-fragment-gperf.gperf

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] [RFC]logind: set locale in user sessions

2013-01-04 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > Bill Nottingham ([email protected]) said: > > > I am tempted to just merge the patch. The discussion on xdg-devel can > > > happen after we commited the code. In fact, moving that to PAM upstream > > > can happen

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] [RFC]logind: set locale in user sessions

2013-01-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > Hmm, I like this approach. Ther actually has been a TODO list item about > this for a while. However, a few questions: > > a) This really sounds like something to discuss on xdg-devel. This >probably deserves adoption by the desktop environm

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] vconsole: default to the kernel compiled-in font

2012-09-21 Thread Bill Nottingham
Tom Gundersen ([email protected]) said: > No longer override the default kernel font if nothing is specified in > vconsole.conf. > > The default kernel font[0] provides ISO-8859-1 and box characters. Users > of Arabic, Cyrilic or Hebrew must set a different font manually as these > character sets were

[systemd-devel] D-Bus services: automatically set Type=dbus?

2012-05-01 Thread Bill Nottingham
The wpa_supplicant service we had in Fedora shipped this dbus service file: ... [D-BUS Service] Name=fi.w1.wpa_supplicant1 SystemdService=wpa_supplicant.service ... and the following wpa_supplicant.service file: ... [Service] Type=forking ... Should this be an error that systemd checks, or warns

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd services handling

2012-04-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Antonio Trande ([email protected]) said: > $ systemctl status fedora-storage-init.service > fedora-storage-init.service - Initialize storage subsystems (RAID, LVM, > etc.) > Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/fedora-storage-init.service; > static) > Active: active (exited) sin

Re: [systemd-devel] "sysctl.conf" applied too late

2012-02-08 Thread Bill Nottingham
Reindl Harald ([email protected]) said: > a kernel boot-param would be nice but until know i did not > find any working one :-( ipv6.disable_ipv6=1 Bill ___ systemd-devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freedesktop.or

Re: [systemd-devel] "sysctl.conf" applied too late

2012-02-08 Thread Bill Nottingham
Reindl Harald ([email protected]) said: > not network manager > classical configuration > > net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1 Your configuration is wrong, I believe. The rule at udev time is: SUBSYSTEM=="net", KERNEL!="lo", RUN+="/lib/systemd/systemd-sysctl \ --prefix=/proc/sys/net/ipv4/

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] Clarify man page with respect to automatic fstab dependencies.

2012-02-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Automatic mounts will be added if 'MountAuto=yes' is in system.conf, regardless of whether comment=systemd.mount is set. Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham --- man/systemd.mount.xml |7 --- 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/man/systemd.mount

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Michal Schmidt ([email protected]) said: > On 01/25/2012 03:57 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >On Wed, 25.01.12 11:11, Jan Engelhardt ([email protected]) wrote: > >>I would actually prefer if it wrote that to the current tty that > >>invoked the start action, rather than the console which is s

Re: [systemd-devel] selinux policy updates for logind

2012-01-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Matthias Clasen ([email protected]) said: > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > > > Well are you seeing a AVC about local_login_t sending a dbus message > > to systemd? > > I don't know, I haven't checked. > But the patch fixes the problem, and is pretty obvious...

Re: [systemd-devel] RefuseEnable

2011-11-28 Thread Bill Nottingham
Michael D. Berger ([email protected]) said: > Is there a way to prevent a service from being enabled? 1) Don't have an '[Install]' section in the unit file 2) Mask the service (ln -s /dev/null /etc/systemd/system/.service) 3) Don't install the service file/service binary at all 4) ExecStartPre=

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] Allow 'list-unit-files' to run with --root.

2011-11-22 Thread Bill Nottingham
To do so, move the check for the bus to the bus-using portion of list_unit_files(), and ensure that get_config_path doesn't abort when checking the runtime path with --root. --- src/install.c |5 ++--- src/systemctl.c |5 +++-- 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) diff --git

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] Run rc-local after network.target, as it's often used for frobbing the network.

2011-11-22 Thread Bill Nottingham
--- units/fedora/rc-local.service |1 + 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/units/fedora/rc-local.service b/units/fedora/rc-local.service index 106b12c..9a38e59 100644 --- a/units/fedora/rc-local.service +++ b/units/fedora/rc-local.service @@ -8,6 +8,7 @@ [Unit] De

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] Add support for automounting configfs, ala debugfs, etc.

2011-09-13 Thread Bill Nottingham
Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham --- Makefile.am |4 units/sys-kernel-config.automount | 15 +++ units/sys-kernel-config.mount | 15 +++ 3 files changed, 34 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) create mode 100644 units/sys-kernel

Re: [systemd-devel] Running packagekitd on shutdown

2011-08-24 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > > very very early at boot /var might not be around yet. So maybe the > > upgrade packs should be placed somewhere in the rootfs (or in /boot? > > that might be a good idea actually if it fits...). Split-off /var is > > nothing we can get rid of,

Re: [systemd-devel] Environment for prefdm.service

2011-07-11 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > > Sorry if I'm missing something simple or if I have confused myself > > beyond all hope. I appreciate any advice on how to prepare this in a > > future-compatible way. > > My recommendation is to simply list display-manager.service in Alias= i

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] Preset Files

2011-07-06 Thread Bill Nottingham
Michal Schmidt ([email protected]) said: > On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 00:42:25 +0200 Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Actually, I do want a way how people can reset all service enable > > states to what the vendor intended. And that should be "systemctl > > preset" without arguments I believe. > > That wo

Re: [systemd-devel] RFC: creating a set of systemd RPM macros across distributions ?

2011-07-05 Thread Bill Nottingham
Frederic Crozat ([email protected]) said: > %service_migrate_to_systemd(l) > {-l:LEVEL="-l $1 ; shift } > for service in %{?*} ; do \ > if /sbin/chkconfig $LEVEL $service ; then > /bin/systemctl --no-reload enable `echo $service | sed -e > 's/\.service//g'` >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > fi If you've

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Use /etc/rc.d/rc.local as the path to rc.local in Fedora.

2011-06-27 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > On Tue, 21.06.11 15:35, Bill Nottingham ([email protected]) wrote: > > > /etc/rc.local is a symlink. > > Applied. > > Hmm, should we drop the x bit on this script by default, as discussed on IRC? I'd like to fin

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] Use /etc/rc.d/rc.local as the path to rc.local in Fedora.

2011-06-21 Thread Bill Nottingham
/etc/rc.local is a symlink. --- units/fedora/rc-local.service |4 ++-- 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/units/fedora/rc-local.service b/units/fedora/rc-local.service index a21a557..8c0b200 100644 --- a/units/fedora/rc-local.service +++ b/units/fedora/rc-local.serv

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] systemd syslogd

2011-06-17 Thread Bill Nottingham
William Douglas ([email protected]) said: > For minimal distributions it is useful for systemd to have a > syslogd as this avoids the need for extra packages > (cron, rsyslog, syslog-ng, logrotate). My concern here is that this is the sort of thing that seems pretty clearly out of the g

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] merging the rest of CK into systemd

2011-05-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > Heya, > > here's a little document Kay and I put together outlining our rough > plans for systemd for the next Fedora cycle: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_ev4f0gwBuvs6SH_N8fN5LO4LV3sbwtJsLq52F_wwpU/edit?hl=en&authkey=CObM_7UI > > It

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 0/4] add ConditionSELinux

2011-04-04 Thread Bill Nottingham
Kay Sievers ([email protected]) said: > This flag file is supposed to be found at the next bootup, right? > > Nothing specific about your patch, I know that's the status quo, but I > guess we need some better place for such files as /, as we are aiming > for a read-only root, or want to suppor

Re: [systemd-devel] use /run instead of /dev/.run

2011-03-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Andrey Borzenkov ([email protected]) said: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: > > Instead of the /dev/.run trick we have currently implemented, we decided > > to move the early-boot runtime dir to /run. > > > > What is the benefit? /var/run is well known and established; wha

Re: [systemd-devel] systemctl is-enabled...

2011-03-07 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > > In my head, I was thinking 'targets that are included by default.target'. > > So, on a 'normal' install, that would be graphical, multi-user, local-fs, > > basic, etc. > > > > If you wanted a different target, you could say (for example): > >

Re: [systemd-devel] Dynamic generators (after systemd start)

2011-03-07 Thread Bill Nottingham
Andrey Borzenkov ([email protected]) said: > > I am not sure I am such a big fan of reimplementing NetworkManager... > > It has nothing to do with reimplementing NM. There is large number of > possible ifcfg configuration that NM still does not support; nor is NM > always used and desirable (wh

Re: [systemd-devel] systemctl is-enabled...

2011-03-07 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > > That means that it's not going to be correct for any service that has > > been enabled via other means, or doesn't have an '[Install]' section. > > For the latter we generate a warning currently, telling the user that > the service has no [Ins

[systemd-devel] systemctl is-enabled...

2011-03-04 Thread Bill Nottingham
The implementation of the is-enabled command makes its not necessarily useful as I might expect it to be. From looking at it, it merely checks whether the '[Install]' section has been executed. That means that it's not going to be correct for any service that has been enabled via other means, or do

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Kay Sievers ([email protected]) said: > >> > Well, it hasn't been working correctly in ages. It's really not new > >> > policy we came up with here. It's just a warning to the user that setups > >> > like this will break. End of story. > >> > >> Is this flagged for the Fedora 15 release notes?

Re: [systemd-devel] /usr on separate file system

2011-02-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Matthew Miller ([email protected]) said: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 04:23:27PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Well, it hasn't been working correctly in ages. It's really not new > > policy we came up with here. It's just a warning to the user that setups > > like this will break. End of story

Re: [systemd-devel] Question about 'vt100-nav' : unknown terminal type

2010-12-27 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > > vt100-nav|vt100 without advanced video option, > > xmc#1, > > blink@, bold@, rev@, rmso=\E[m, rmul@, sgr@, sgr0@, smso=\E[7m, > > smul@, use=vt100, > > > > so, no blink, no bold, no reverse video, standout is reverse vi

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] man, systemctl: correct handling of compatibility commands

2010-11-29 Thread Bill Nottingham
Ran Benita ([email protected]) said: > These tiny differences were confusing enough for the author of the > manpage, and I managed to get it wrong as well; > upon closer examination, I was perhaps a bit reckless... > The LSB page here > http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_4.0.0/LSB-Core-generi

Re: [systemd-devel] Questions/problems about distro integrating

2010-11-29 Thread Bill Nottingham
Ozan Çağlayan ([email protected]) said: > Maybe systemd-vconsole-setup should be started after plymouthd quits, I don't > know. > > Ideas? vconsole setup needs done before plymouth grabs the tty. Billl ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@li

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 8/8] Fedora: Link graphical-target.wants to the virtual display-manager.service, not the specific prefdm.service.

2010-10-28 Thread Bill Nottingham
Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham --- Makefile.am |6 +++--- 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/Makefile.am b/Makefile.am index 7acb692..20f2e28 100644 --- a/Makefile.am +++ b/Makefile.am @@ -1176,9 +1176,6 @@ if TARGET_FEDORA $(DESTDIR

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 7/8] Make systemunitdir/graphical.target.wants on 'make install'.

2010-10-28 Thread Bill Nottingham
Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham --- Makefile.am |1 + 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/Makefile.am b/Makefile.am index c992eab..7acb692 100644 --- a/Makefile.am +++ b/Makefile.am @@ -1046,6 +1046,7 @@ install-data-hook: $(DESTDIR)$(systemunitdir

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 5/8] Fedora: by default, run prefdm last to match prior behavior.

2010-10-28 Thread Bill Nottingham
Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham --- units/fedora/prefdm.service |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/units/fedora/prefdm.service b/units/fedora/prefdm.service index 78bf14c..45ecd7c 100644 --- a/units/fedora/prefdm.service +++ b/units/fedora/prefdm.service

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 4/8] Fedora: don't ship [Install] sections; these are enabled in the system configuration.

2010-10-28 Thread Bill Nottingham
Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham --- units/fedora/plymouth-halt.service |3 --- units/fedora/plymouth-poweroff.service |3 --- units/fedora/plymouth-quit.service |3 --- units/fedora/plymouth-reboot.service |3 --- units/fedora/prefdm.service|4 units

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 6/8] Install hwclock-load into the system unit dir, not the sysconf unit dir.

2010-10-28 Thread Bill Nottingham
Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham --- Makefile.am |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/Makefile.am b/Makefile.am index 3c65feb..c992eab 100644 --- a/Makefile.am +++ b/Makefile.am @@ -1137,7 +1137,7 @@ install-data-hook: ( cd $(DESTDIR)$(pkgsysconfdir

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/8] Assorted tweaks to Fedora single-user mode.

2010-10-28 Thread Bill Nottingham
1) Start after basic.target, not the deprecated sysinit.target 2) Conflict with shutdown. 3) Be less noisy on start, to match prior behavior. Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham --- units/fedora/single.service |5 ++--- 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/units/fedora

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/8] Fedora: Don't ship a init.d reboot symlink.

2010-10-28 Thread Bill Nottingham
Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham --- Makefile.am |2 -- 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/Makefile.am b/Makefile.am index e079ac8..56bafdc 100644 --- a/Makefile.am +++ b/Makefile.am @@ -1206,8 +1206,6 @@ if TARGET_FEDORA ( cd $(DESTDIR)$(systemunitdir

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 3/8] Fedora: further unit tweaks

2010-10-28 Thread Bill Nottingham
1) Just ship rc-local as-is; don't worry about the 'local' name. 2) Don't install rc-local and prefdm to /etc ; just enable them globally for the system in /lib. Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham --- Makefile.am | 11 --- units/fedora/rc-local.se

[systemd-devel] Assorted patches for unit configuration

2010-10-28 Thread Bill Nottingham
These patches update various units (nearly all in the Fedora directory) to match current Fedora behavior and units that were shipped separately. Bill ___ systemd-devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Don't clean /var/lock/subsys or /var/run/user; they're not aged content.

2010-10-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > In a number of ways: > > - Primarily it is nearly impossible to use /tmp safely to place a > communication > socket in: on one hand you need to establish a non-random name, so that > client and server find each other. On the other hand you

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Don't clean /var/lock/subsys or /var/run/user; they're not aged content.

2010-10-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > > I was looking for non-systemd users - while the user-specific dir > > is created, there's no actual data that ends up being written there > > (at least on my test desktop). Perhaps none of the apps in that > > set are using XDG_RUNTIME_DIR? >

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Don't clean /var/lock/subsys or /var/run/user; they're not aged content.

2010-10-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > > > > They will get 'cleaned' on boot due to being tmpfs anyway. > > > > > > Hmm, but at least /var/run/user can be full of user stuff which might > > > remain around when the user session crashes... Are you sure we don't > > > need to clena thi

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Don't clean /var/lock/subsys or /var/run/user; they're not aged content.

2010-10-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > > They will get 'cleaned' on boot due to being tmpfs anyway. > > Hmm, but at least /var/run/user can be full of user stuff which might > remain around when the user session crashes... Are you sure we don't > need to clena this up from time to ti

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] Make wtmp match utmp perms, and add btmp.

2010-10-21 Thread Bill Nottingham
Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham --- tmpfiles.d/systemd.conf |3 ++- 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/tmpfiles.d/systemd.conf b/tmpfiles.d/systemd.conf index 41ff210..09d8344 100644 --- a/tmpfiles.d/systemd.conf +++ b/tmpfiles.d/systemd.conf @@ -8,7 +8,8 @@ d

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Don't clean /var/lock/subsys or /var/run/user; they're not aged content.

2010-10-21 Thread Bill Nottingham
They will get 'cleaned' on boot due to being tmpfs anyway. Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham --- tmpfiles.d/systemd.conf |4 ++-- 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/tmpfiles.d/systemd.conf b/tmpfiles.d/systemd.conf index 07ce72a..41ff210 100644 --- a/

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/4] Adding halt binary to shutdown the system

2010-10-01 Thread Bill Nottingham
Fabiano Fidêncio ([email protected]) said: > > Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. > > > > Say I have an NFS and/or fuse mount in /etc/fstab. > > Which unit file you are talking about should be dealing with > > unmounting this nfs mount? > > NFS is being umounted. I'm passing MNT

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] var-run.service: create console dir needed by pam

2010-09-24 Thread Bill Nottingham
Kay Sievers ([email protected]) said: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 16:26, wrote: > > +ExecStart=/bin/mkdir /var/run/console ; /bin/chmod 0755 /var/run/console ; > > -/sbin/restorecon /var/run/console > > Please let the broken pam_console finally die. It was never correct do that. I'd love to.

Re: [systemd-devel] Services enabled by default?

2010-09-20 Thread Bill Nottingham
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri ([email protected]) said: > > Or, conversely, why not enable 12 by default? > > :-) Because when you add a link at "make install", you have to remove > it. If you add it manually, it will not be removed. So what happens > is that people that just use one for rescue

Re: [systemd-devel] Services enabled by default?

2010-09-20 Thread Bill Nottingham
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri ([email protected]) said: > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:13:20AM -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > >> Maybe integrate it into systemd? It's one single .c file as far as I > >> could check. > > > > What's the advantage of making this monolithic? > > not having

Re: [PATCH 1/2] units: Merge halt/poweroff/reboot for the different distros

2010-09-09 Thread Bill Nottingham
Santi ([email protected]) said: > Makefile.am | 23 ++- > units/.gitignore |3 ++ > units/arch/halt.service | 19 > units/arch/poweroff.service | 19 > units/arch/reboot.service | 19 -

Re: [systemd-devel] emergency vs. rescue

2010-09-07 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > > It reads confusingly, in that if sysinit is 'Before' emergency, the > > implication would be that if you enable emergency mode, sysinit would be > > started before it. It isn't, as the dependency isn't there. > > sysinit.target has a Conflicts

Re: [systemd-devel] emergency vs. rescue

2010-09-07 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > And I hope this is not too confusing... It reads confusingly, in that if sysinit is 'Before' emergency, the implication would be that if you enable emergency mode, sysinit would be started before it. It isn't, as the dependency isn't there. Two

Re: [systemd-devel] emergency vs. rescue

2010-09-07 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > In systemd, "emergency" is little more than an equivalent to > init=/bin/sh on the kernel command like. i.e. you get a shell Not as it's currently configured. sysinit.service has 'Before' on it. Is that not intentional? Bill ___

[systemd-devel] emergency vs. rescue

2010-09-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Is there any real, useful, reason to define both of these? In RH/Fedora, we don't support a distinction, and haven't since switching away from sysvinit. As they're set up now in systemd, they're identical except for some string output, and do not have any different handling in the daemon itself asi

Re: [systemd-devel] 'tasks' as first-order objects?

2010-08-13 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > Yes, I share the same belief, which is one of the reasons I'd be happy > to rename this. > > So, Kay and I came up with these two ideas: > > KeepAfterExit= > ActiveAfterExit= It brings back the word you just dropped elsewhere, but maybe 'F

Re: [systemd-devel] 'tasks' as first-order objects?

2010-08-12 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering ([email protected]) said: > > upstart jobs have two main types - 'services' and 'tasks'. systemd, while it > > has many other types, doesn't have a 'task' analogue. So, for anything that > > has the semantics of a task (at this time/dependency, do this thing and > > exit),

[systemd-devel] 'tasks' as first-order objects?

2010-08-12 Thread Bill Nottingham
upstart jobs have two main types - 'services' and 'tasks'. systemd, while it has many other types, doesn't have a 'task' analogue. So, for anything that has the semantics of a task (at this time/dependency, do this thing and exit), ends up being encoded as a service of type 'finish', often with 'Va