Re: [systemd-devel] Splitting sd-boot from systemd/bootctl for enabling sd-boot in Fedora

2022-04-30 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 30.4.2022 07:53, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 30.4.2022 05:08, Andrei Borzenkov wrote: On 28.04.2022 10:54, Lennart Poettering wrote: * systemd-boot is an additional bootloader, rather than replacing an existing one, thus increasing the attack surface. Hmm, what? "addit

Re: [systemd-devel] Splitting sd-boot from systemd/bootctl for enabling sd-boot in Fedora

2022-04-30 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 30.4.2022 05:08, Andrei Borzenkov wrote: On 28.04.2022 10:54, Lennart Poettering wrote: * systemd-boot is an additional bootloader, rather than replacing an existing one, thus increasing the attack surface. Hmm, what? "additional bootloader"? Are they suggesting you use grub to start sd-b

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd 244 version Execstop issue

2020-12-21 Thread gowtham b
Hi All, could you please any help on this issue. Thanks, Gowtham On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:27 PM gowtham b wrote: > Hi, > > hope you are doing good > Facing issue in systemd 244 version Execstop is not executing while > process crashing. Did additional testing if we restart

[systemd-devel] systemd 244 version Execstop issue

2020-12-16 Thread gowtham b
Hi, hope you are doing good Facing issue in systemd 244 version Execstop is not executing while process crashing. Did additional testing if we restart the process via systemd "systemctl restart tr069pa" command Execstop is running properly seeing the restart log in the redirected file. The same se

Re: [systemd-devel] Static IP address on wandering Wi-Fi client

2019-06-19 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
s right ( as in it's not going to be replacing wpa supplicant on other *nix like for example the BSD stack )? Regards     Jóhann B. ___ systemd-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] Static IP address on wandering Wi-Fi client

2019-06-18 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
o a single place ( networkd )? Why do you want to keep the network configuration and management space fragmented ( as opposed to consolidated ) ? Regards Jóhann B. ___ systemd-devel mailing list [email protected]

Re: [systemd-devel] Static IP address on wandering Wi-Fi client

2019-06-14 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
using DHCP or a static IP address. If you have not yet you should have a look at IWD [1][2][3] before settling on wpa_suppplicant for your product. Regards Jóhann B. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIqT2obSPDk 2. https://lists.01.org/pipermail/iwd/ 3. https://git.kernel.org

Re: [systemd-devel] How to speed up detection of emmc partition and mount the filesystem

2019-02-05 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 2/4/19 7:22 PM, Petr wrote: Hello, I have custom linux on embedded machine generated with Buildroot using  emmc drive which contains  root filesystem on /dev/mmcblk0p2 and application data on  /dev/mmcblk0p4. The root fileystem is mounted pretty quickly, but the application data are mount

Re: [systemd-devel] Collect logs over serial

2019-01-31 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 1/31/19 4:34 PM, Paul Menzel wrote: numbered differently You can try to do this via tty symlinked udev rule, something along the lines of # /etc/udev/rules.d/99-consistent-serial.rules # Generic sample ( replace $FOO with something relevant to your environment ) SUBSYSTEM=="tty", KE

[systemd-devel] Mkosi and downstream release cycles and their support

2019-01-21 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
Greetings Not sure if this is the right place for mkosi and casync discussions probably better create seperated mailing list for both of these components ( lates issue against mkosi seems to be a user problem not a bug ). Anyway we have had two bugs reported against mkosi today one of which

Re: [systemd-devel] taking time off

2019-01-15 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 1/15/19 8:58 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: What's going on is just too stupid/crazy. This begs the question what you consider is too stupid/crazy? Is it something here upstream ( which could be improved upon )? Or is it something ( political? ) downstream in Debian? Or both? JBG __

Re: [systemd-devel] RFC: idea for a pstore systemd service

2019-01-15 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 1/15/19 6:49 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Di, 15.01.19 11:23, Eric DeVolder ([email protected]) wrote: Systemd-devel, Below is a write-up I've done to explain a new service for archiving pstore contents. I've attached the pstore.service files (/lib/systemd/system/pstore.service

Re: [systemd-devel] Bugfix release(s)

2019-01-15 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 1/14/19 3:48 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mo, 14.01.19 08:43, Dave Reisner ([email protected]) wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 10:59:06AM +0100, Jan Synacek wrote: Hi, since v240 didn't go too well, I would like to suggest that the next one (preferably two) release(s) are bugfix only

[systemd-devel] Log output is incomplete or unavailable

2017-02-20 Thread Patrick B
Hi guys, I'm running Ubuntu 16.04.01 Server and just realised some log files are not being created. Such as: /var/log/kern.log /var/log/postgresql/postgresql.log service postgresql status Warning: Journal has been rotated since unit was started. Log output is incomplete or unavailable. roo

Re: [systemd-devel] question regarding DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS in multiseat environment

2016-12-02 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/02/2016 12:28 PM, Simon McVittie wrote: Does this mean your user is trying to be physically present in two places at the same time? How is this a useful thing to do?:-) Clones are very useful things to have. You just sit a drink a pina colada in hut in bora bora while they do all the h

Re: [systemd-devel] Munge start Error

2016-11-17 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 11/17/2016 12:11 PM, JEYARAJ wrote: Hi All, Dear Sir, I ,am installing job scheduling system for a single machine.munge also installed latest version. I start with Munge service .Error is showing; Again I used the command: Systemctl status munge.service Error is came. This error is irre

Re: [systemd-devel] Fedora 25, cgroups V2 and systemd roadmap

2016-10-10 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 10/10/2016 04:46 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: I still hope that Fedora can go the Facebook route, and just patch the stuff in, and ignore the fight going on in the kernel community. That wont fly by the kernel sub community in Fedora in which they are doing whatever they can not having to

Re: [systemd-devel] Fedora 25, cgroups V2 and systemd roadmap

2016-10-10 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 10/10/2016 11:31 AM, Kevin Wilson wrote: Hello, systemd developers, So we have now 3 V2 cgroups controller in the kernel (pids, memory and io). The CPU controller as of now is not merged in and is available only in an out of tree git repo (due to some debate over it with kernel scheduler deve

Re: [systemd-devel] Head ups - upstream first no longer applies to the kernel.

2016-08-16 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 08/16/2016 02:47 PM, Greg KH wrote: In the meantime, to object to other developers doing work on systemd to test out these changes seems very odd, who are you, or me, to tell someone else what they can or can not do with their project? Interesting philosophical question as to who owns the p

Re: [systemd-devel] Head ups - upstream first no longer applies to the kernel.

2016-08-16 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 08/16/2016 12:53 PM, Greg KH wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:51:12PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: >On 08/16/2016 12:34 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > >But agreement is usually the best way to work things out, don't you > >think? Isn't it better than the tradit

Re: [systemd-devel] Head ups - upstream first no longer applies to the kernel.

2016-08-16 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 08/16/2016 12:51 PM, Greg KH wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:47:16PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Irrelevant. No, not at all, I'm just really confused as to what systemd changes are required to get wireguard working properly with it? Think of it like native integration

Re: [systemd-devel] Head ups - upstream first no longer applies to the kernel.

2016-08-16 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 08/16/2016 12:34 PM, Greg KH wrote: But agreement is usually the best way to work things out, don't you think? Isn't it better than the traditional way a company works (a project manager says "this has to be merged!")? Agreed mutual agreement is the best course of action always but someti

Re: [systemd-devel] Head ups - upstream first no longer applies to the kernel.

2016-08-16 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 08/16/2016 12:31 PM, Greg KH wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:25:47PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 08/16/2016 11:28 AM, Greg KH wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:15:03AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Such as what specifically? Are you pretending you are going to be

Re: [systemd-devel] Head ups - upstream first no longer applies to the kernel.

2016-08-16 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 08/16/2016 12:13 PM, Greg KH wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:23:03AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Why cant the kernel community figure this out and solve this upstream first since it's quite obvious from the threads that Tejun Heo linked to in that pull request that this

Re: [systemd-devel] Head ups - upstream first no longer applies to the kernel.

2016-08-16 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 08/16/2016 11:28 AM, Greg KH wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:15:03AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 08/16/2016 10:44 AM, Greg KH wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:11:27AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Recent case in point is the that the wireguard maintainer was/is

Re: [systemd-devel] Head ups - upstream first no longer applies to the kernel.

2016-08-16 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 08/16/2016 10:42 AM, Greg KH wrote: As long as this new code doesn't break things for users without those kernel patches, why would you object? Are you having to maintain these new features for some reason? No but I eventually might have to deal with the fallout from such approach. Why ca

Re: [systemd-devel] Head ups - upstream first no longer applies to the kernel.

2016-08-16 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 08/16/2016 10:27 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 16.08.16 10:11, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson ([email protected]) wrote: Yes kdbus is a good example why this should not be done. Why not just have an experimental repository for out of tree, un-merged stuff upstream and those that want to

Re: [systemd-devel] Head ups - upstream first no longer applies to the kernel.

2016-08-16 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 08/16/2016 10:44 AM, Greg KH wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:11:27AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Recent case in point is the that the wireguard maintainer was/is interested seeing it property integrated into systemd. Anywork related to that could not be started *until* he had his

Re: [systemd-devel] Head ups - upstream first no longer applies to the kernel.

2016-08-16 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 08/16/2016 09:06 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 15.08.16 16:52, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson ([email protected]) wrote: The world isn't just black and white, you know. That depends entirely on ones perception of the world does it not? I'm interesting to hear when it is no

Re: [systemd-devel] Head ups - upstream first no longer applies to the kernel.

2016-08-16 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 08/16/2016 09:04 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 15.08.16 10:53, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson ([email protected]) wrote: Johann, what you are posting here is really not helpful in any way. It's helpful in that way of letting people know that you have chosen to deviating from ups

Re: [systemd-devel] Head ups - upstream first no longer applies to the kernel.

2016-08-15 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 08/15/2016 04:08 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 10:53:56AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: >Just a heads up based on the merge of [1] systemd no longer >requires features to have been accepted in the upstream kernel >before merging it. See the

[systemd-devel] Head ups - upstream first no longer applies to the kernel.

2016-08-15 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
Just a heads up based on the merge of [1] systemd no longer requires features to have been accepted in the upstream kernel before merging it. Adjust you expectation accordingly for submission and potential downstream breakage for type units in which upstream might have decided to take advanta

Re: [systemd-devel] firmware update check script

2016-08-04 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 08/04/2016 07:45 AM, Stéphane ANCELOT wrote: You are right, but that's only systemd that is incompatible with this feature (and some more). Actually all initsystems are incompatible with this. As some people and some articles I have read on the web, it is time for myself switching my s

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

2016-07-06 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
I don't see a conflict. These are all per-user units, so if user A runs kde-session.target and user B runs gnome-session.target that's fine -- the two user systemd instances don't even know about each other. It's more about people will be have hard time distinguish between

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

2016-07-06 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 07/06/2016 02:34 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: This /usr/lib/systemd/user/graphical.target (and only that)*does* belong in to systemd, as it cannot sensibly be in any gnome-session/mate-session/kde-session/etc. package -- it's a shared resource/synchronization point between all of those. Having a un

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

2016-07-06 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 07/06/2016 12:51 PM, Jan Alexander Steffens wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 2:21 PM Jóhann B. Guðmundsson mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: It's questionable if such application should reside in upstream systemd since arguably systemd should have never

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

2016-07-06 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 07/06/2016 08:50 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote: I'm not sure how this would work regarding things like g-s-d which you want in multiple DEs.. perhaps the gnome.target would have to be split up into gnome-base.target and gnome.target to allow for this use case? Or perhaps g-s-d could just become bus

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

2016-07-04 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 07/04/2016 08:01 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: Feedback appreciated! Shipping an predefined desktop units arguably does not belong upstream since it's just catering to one ( desktop ) out of three ( embedded/server/desktop) target user base. It might result in other two target user base having

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd.conf early-bird tickets, cfp and workshops

2016-06-27 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
community members. Proposals for workshops can be submitted at https://cfp.systemd.io If you have questions about workshops please contact us at [email protected] Or you can just be replied to here since you advertise 300 euro participation fee for workshop schedule that a) does not exist and b) is

Re: [systemd-devel] Can LSBInitScipts specify an dependency on systemd unit?

2016-06-09 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 06/09/2016 09:02 AM, Ross Lagerwall wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Bao Nguyen wrote: With a new enough systemd, you should be able to add a snippet to extend the initscript like this: $ cat /etc/systemd/system/my_lsb_service.service.d/local.conf [Unit] Requires=systemd_1.service Afte

Re: [systemd-devel] Can LSBInitScipts specify an dependency on systemd unit?

2016-06-09 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 06/09/2016 08:55 AM, Bao Nguyen wrote: Can it be declared like that? Can it work as expected if LSB depends on systemd service? Migrate that scripted mess to type units and be done with it. JBG ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lis

Re: [systemd-devel] question on special configuration case

2016-06-08 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 06/08/2016 06:51 AM, Hebenstreit, Michael wrote: Thanks for this and the other suggestions! So for starters we’ll disable logind and dbus, increase watchdogsec and see where the footprint is – before disabling journald if necessary in a next step. You cannot disable journal but you can

Re: [systemd-devel] question on special configuration case

2016-06-07 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 06/07/2016 10:17 PM, Hebenstreit, Michael wrote: I understand this usage model cannot be compared to laptops or web servers. But basically you are saying systemd is not usable for our High Performance Computing usage case and I might better off by replacing it with sysinitV. I was hoping f

Re: [systemd-devel] question on special configuration case

2016-06-07 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 06/07/2016 03:13 PM, Hebenstreit, Michael wrote: we need to keep the OS of our systems are stripped down to an absolute bare minimum. If you need absolute bare minimum systemd [¹] then you need to create/maintain your entire distribution for that ( for example you would build systemd s

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd ask-password unable to handle cryptsetup passwords with \0 character inside ?

2016-06-07 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 06/07/2016 01:26 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Not sure where this really leaves us. It leaves people wondering if it fits into bus 1. . . JBG ___ systemd-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailma

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd network interface names - new twist

2016-06-02 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 06/02/2016 04:33 PM, JB wrote: Thanks, that's the plan but in order to buy myself that time, I'd need to get this resolved first. I'm afraid you wont buy yourself anything since your only option is to start immediately to look into applying real-time kernel patches or find another dis

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd loads units before btrfs subvolumes are mounted

2016-05-26 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 05/26/2016 02:38 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >On 05/26/2016 09:36 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > >/usr is for the OS vendor really. > >Given that it's generally expected and wanted that application developers >follow the os vendors packaging guideline and rules as possible in >distrib

Re: [systemd-devel] check to see if service is still alive

2016-05-26 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 05/26/2016 01:15 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 26.05.16 14:39, Thomas Güttler ([email protected]) wrote: >Am 26.05.2016 um 14:35 schrieb Andrei Borzenkov: > >On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Thomas Güttler > > wrote: > >>I want to know if the service is alive, > > > >

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd loads units before btrfs subvolumes are mounted

2016-05-26 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 05/26/2016 09:44 AM, Frederic Crozat wrote: I don't know how this software will be shipped, but if it is as a RPM package, it is best to be installed in /usr/lib/systemd/system. /etc/systemd/system should be for admins or 3rd parties not using packages. /etc is admin only territory and shou

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd loads units before btrfs subvolumes are mounted

2016-05-26 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 05/26/2016 09:36 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: /usr is for the OS vendor really. Given that it's generally expected and wanted that application developers follow the os vendors packaging guideline and rules as possible in distribution and many 3rd party repositories reflect that, I have

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd loads units before btrfs subvolumes are mounted

2016-05-26 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 05/26/2016 06:52 AM, Rashmi Ranjan Mohanty wrote: Just out of curiosity... If /usr itself is there on a separate partition, can this issue happen then or systemd can handle that scenario ? Systemd can cope with /usr being on separated partition however other core/baseOS components might n

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd loads units before btrfs subvolumes are mounted

2016-05-25 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 05/25/2016 03:22 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 25.05.16 10:05, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson ([email protected]) wrote: You will always risk ending up with a race condition if you place your type units outside the official directories. /etc/systemd/system/* ( Administrators ) /run

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd loads units before btrfs subvolumes are mounted

2016-05-25 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
You will always risk ending up with a race condition if you place your type units outside the official directories. /etc/systemd/system/* ( Administrators ) /run/systemd/system/* ( Temporary ) /usr/lib/systemd/system/* ( Vendors ) Arguably the support running/loading type unit files outside

Re: [systemd-devel] automount nested nfs share

2016-05-04 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
Open up a support case with Red Hat since that's what you are paying for. On 05/04/2016 08:40 AM, Marco Giunta wrote: Hi at all, I've a problem with automount features of systemd. I need to mount two nfs share in this way: /srv/nfsnfs-server.example.com:/share1 /srv/nfs/nested

Re: [systemd-devel] centos-ci

2016-04-12 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 04/12/2016 02:43 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 12.04.16 11:52, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson ([email protected]) wrote: Anyone know that centos is not running the latest version(s) of systemd required for the upstream bug tracker so one has to ask what notification spam is this "Ca

[systemd-devel] centos-ci

2016-04-12 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
Anyone know that centos is not running the latest version(s) of systemd required for the upstream bug tracker so one has to ask what notification spam is this "Can one of the admins verify this patch?" JBG ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@

Re: [systemd-devel] udev vs. nscd vs. /var automount

2016-04-06 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 04/06/2016 09:15 AM, Łukasz Stelmach wrote: Hi, I've hit a problem caused by a mix of: automounting + glibc + udev + my partition layout. Apparently it is impossible to make /var automountable because udev (which needs to enumerate devices befor mounting them) is trying to connect to /var/r

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd.conf 2016

2016-04-05 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 04/05/2016 08:40 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: one day of hands-on training sessions. Who will be training what exactly? JBG ___ systemd-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/system

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd efi boot and default entry

2016-04-01 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 04/01/2016 03:15 PM, Tobias Hunger wrote: On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: That makes no sense that an boot is not market completed until it manage to contact it's update servers but inline with other hacks coreOS is doing in relation with systemd. I se

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd efi boot and default entry

2016-04-01 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 04/01/2016 03:15 PM, Alex Crawford wrote: On 04/01, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: That makes no sense that an boot is not market completed until it manage to contact it's update servers but inline with other hacks coreOS is doing in relation with systemd. To what hacks, exactly, ar

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd efi boot and default entry

2016-04-01 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 04/01/2016 12:44 PM, Tobias Hunger wrote: Hi Jóhann and Vasiliy, IIRC both coreos and chormeOS only mark a boot as successful after talking to their respective update servers. The assumption apparently is that the OS can fix itself when it is able to communicate properly with its own update s

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd efi boot and default entry

2016-04-01 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 04/01/2016 10:52 AM, Vasiliy Tolstov wrote: 2016-04-01 13:50 GMT+03:00 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson : AFAIK the android boot process fires an standard broadcasting action "ACTION_BOOT_COMPLETED" once system services are up and running in memory, which is the time when it considered the

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd efi boot and default entry

2016-04-01 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 04/01/2016 10:11 AM, Vasiliy Tolstov wrote: 2016-04-01 13:08 GMT+03:00 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson : I dont see how you plan on implement this if not with either a secondary program loader which stores an redundant environment or an kernel support that does the similar/same thing I mean you need

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd efi boot and default entry

2016-04-01 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 03/31/2016 02:31 PM, Michal Sekletar wrote: We don't need to extend the kernel in order to implement this particular mechanism. After new kernel is installed, you make it default and mark as "tentative". Then, after first successful boot of newly added bootloader entry you just remove the fl

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd efi boot and default entry

2016-03-31 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 03/30/2016 03:49 PM, Michal Sekletar wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Vasiliy Tolstov wrote: Now i want to have two entries and assign priority to it via systemd, in my use-case i want to know last succeseful boot entry and use it. After upgrade i want to boot from new antry and if

Re: [systemd-devel] New "ubuntu-ci" integration tests are being added to PRs

2016-02-18 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 02/18/2016 11:26 AM, Daniel Mack wrote: On 02/18/2016 12:19 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: >On 02/18/2016 10:22 AM, Daniel Mack wrote: >>I disagree. All sorts of testing is good for us, and if a PR is breaking >>downstream Ubuntu, and we recognize that before merging

Re: [systemd-devel] New "ubuntu-ci" integration tests are being added to PRs

2016-02-18 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 02/18/2016 10:43 AM, Martin Pitt wrote: I'd actually turn it the other way around and claim that if Fedora, Arch, etc. have downstream tests, then please trigger them too. After all, failures of them don't block anything (right now, anyway), and having the extra information in the PRs can onl

Re: [systemd-devel] New "ubuntu-ci" integration tests are being added to PRs

2016-02-18 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 02/18/2016 10:22 AM, Daniel Mack wrote: I disagree. All sorts of testing is good for us, and if a PR is breaking downstream Ubuntu, and we recognize that before merging, that's really great. I'm all for more testing the better but due to downstream fragmentation all these have the same fund

Re: [systemd-devel] New "ubuntu-ci" integration tests are being added to PRs

2016-02-18 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 02/18/2016 08:01 AM, Martin Pitt wrote: So please don't put too much attention to these results yet. I want to to enable them to see how the testing and communication holds up in practice, but before this we definitively need to sort out [2] first. Will failed tests or false positives start

Re: [systemd-devel] Moving systemd-bootchart to a standalone repository

2016-02-17 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 02/17/2016 04:51 PM, Daniel Mack wrote: Hey, [I've put all people in Cc who have had more than one commit related to systemd-bootchart in the past] As part of our spring cleaning, we've been thinking about giving systemd-bootchart a new home, in a new repository of its own. I've been worki

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] the chopping block

2016-02-11 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 02/11/2016 09:44 PM, Andrew Bartlett wrote: On Thu, 2016-02-11 at 20:04 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 02/11/2016 05:34 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: 2) compat support for libsystemd-login.so and friends (these were merged into a single libsystemd.so a long time ago

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] the chopping block

2016-02-11 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 02/11/2016 08:41 PM, Armin K. wrote: On 11.02.2016 21:04, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 02/11/2016 05:34 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: 2) compat support for libsystemd-login.so and friends (these were merged into a single libsystemd.so a long time ago). We are still

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] the chopping block

2016-02-11 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 02/11/2016 05:34 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >2) compat support for libsystemd-login.so and friends (these were >merged into a single libsystemd.so a long time ago). We are still >building compat libraries to ease the transition, but that was a >long time ago, hence I'

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] the chopping block

2016-02-11 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 02/11/2016 05:06 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya! So I am thinking about some spring cleaning, and would love to remove the following bits from the systemd package: All seem to be very sound choice to make. Arguably you should chop away the environment files support in the process si

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v229

2016-02-11 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 02/11/2016 05:47 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 11.02.16 17:32, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson ([email protected]) wrote: I just tagged the v229 release of systemd. Enjoy! CHANGES WITH 229: * The coredump collection logic has been reworked: when a coredump is

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v229

2016-02-11 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 02/11/2016 04:50 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya! I just tagged the v229 release of systemd. Enjoy! CHANGES WITH 229: * The coredump collection logic has been reworked: when a coredump is collected it is now written to disk, compressed and processed (incl

Re: [systemd-devel] known but not-listed units

2016-01-14 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 01/14/2016 03:01 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: We currently do not show runtime generated unit files among the output of "systemctl list-unit-files", but it would probably make sense Aren't these files auto generated on each bootup/reload/restart thus exposing them is likely to cause conf

Re: [systemd-devel] CODENAME field in /etc/os-release

2016-01-13 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
Use the existing fields as in NAME= VERSION= ID= VERSION_ID= PRETTY_NAME= VARIANT= VARIANT_ID= Adding additional codename field serves no purpose or value which the previous fields do not already cover. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@li

Re: [systemd-devel] Do we need /dev/core?

2015-12-30 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/30/2015 11:44 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Dec 30, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: You should ask that question on the kernel mailinglist and or on the Debian devel list if they want to remove that symbolic link to /proc/kcore I am already dealing with the Debian side (

Re: [systemd-devel] Do we need /dev/core?

2015-12-30 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/30/2015 11:24 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote: Does anybody know about something actually using /dev/core or is it yet another instance of cargo cult sysadmining? A Debian code search shows only two packages using it. In tests. Wrongly. https://codesearch.debian.net/results/%22%2Fdev%2Fcore%22/pa

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-23 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/23/2015 08:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 23.12.2015 um 21:12 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 12/23/2015 07:30 PM, Alex Crawford wrote: I like this model and I'm not sure how I would solve this if EnvironmentFile didn't exist. The usual underlying cause of usage of Envi

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-23 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/23/2015 07:48 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: I see no reason why systemd should be involved with this. Just make etcd a proper daemon, and read its config data directly, rather then serializing it into the command line. In sys v initscript it started out as variable options, placed on to

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-23 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/23/2015 07:30 PM, Alex Crawford wrote: I like this model and I'm not sure how I would solve this if EnvironmentFile didn't exist. The usual underlying cause of usage of Environment or EnvironmentFile in type units is more or less always due to the fact that the daemon/service cannot re

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-22 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/23/2015 12:43 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Just to clarify that. I think EnvironmentFile= was a mistake, and I explained why. But then again, I am not planning to remove it, and I never suggested that. What usescases do you see for it's existence. FYI the longer you take fixing your m

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-22 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/21/2015 04:36 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: 2015-12-21 17:30 GMT+01:00 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson : It's an added work to add the environmental line to begin with and it's an That would be done once, by upstream ideally. The work would be negligible. Still an added work eithe

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-21 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/21/2015 04:02 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: 2015-12-21 17:00 GMT+01:00 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson : No what's obvious is it does not add any value not et all Well, I can reiterate the points, but I suggest you just read this thread again. and not all daemons and service support addit

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-21 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/21/2015 02:15 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: and since you say this what is your business for taking "EnvironmentFile" away from administrators area - my config, take your hands from it instead propose to break it - nobody cares if you would something do in a different way as long you are n

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-21 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/21/2015 03:17 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: The benefit of that instead of having to override the complete ExecStart line should be obvious and has already be mentioned in this very thread. No what's obvious is it does not add any value not et all and not all daemons and service support add

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-21 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/21/2015 01:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: ExecStart=/path/to/daemon FOO would cut you from distro-changes in other params and explained abvoe sooner or later lead in failing and could even be security relevant depending on new options or removed options in the distro-unit You do realize

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-21 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/21/2015 01:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 21.12.2015 um 12:40 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: ExecStart=/usr/sbin/foobard $OPTS and then tell admin to use systemctl edit [Unit] Environment=OPTS=-baz bonus points if we could standardise the $OPTS var name across daemons. Then distros

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-21 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/18/2015 04:00 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: 2015-12-09 20:46 GMT+01:00 Lennart Poettering : On Wed, 09.12.15 18:27, Soumya Koduri ([email protected]) wrote: Hi, I have created a systemd.unit(nfs-ganesha.service) file as below : [Unit] After=nfs-ganesha-config.service Requires=nfs-ganesh

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-11 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/11/2015 03:56 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote: 10.12.2015 18:44, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson пишет: On 12/10/2015 03:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 10.12.2015 um 15:46 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: Care to show example how it should be done from your point of view? So that they can actully be

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-10 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/10/2015 03:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 10.12.2015 um 15:46 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: If you are unaware of any other use case for it EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/httpd ExecStart=/usr/sbin/httpd $OPTIONS -D FOREGROUND [root@testserver:~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/httpd OPTIONS

Re: [systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

2015-12-10 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 12/09/2015 07:46 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: I probably should never have added EnvironmentFile= in the first place. Packagers misunderstand that unit files are subject to admin configuration and should be treated as such, and that spliting out configuration of unit files into separate Envir

Re: [systemd-devel] RFC: Setting TasksMax= by default

2015-11-13 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
for every other type unit ? Or Users sets SystemTasksAccounting=no in system.conf but enables task accounting for a.service while while keeping it disabled for every other type unit ? b) I'd like to introduce DefaultTasksMax= that controls the default value of the per-unit TasksMax= by defaul

Re: [systemd-devel] [packaging] split of systemd package

2015-11-11 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 11/11/2015 08:38 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 11.11.2015 um 21:21 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 11/11/2015 04:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 11.11.2015 um 17:03 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 11/11/2015 03:51 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Why not systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] [packaging] split of systemd package

2015-11-11 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 11/11/2015 08:28 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: 2015-11-11 21:21 GMT+01:00 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson : [snip] To coordinate and oversee and collectively share work done between distribution integrating the relevant components in their distribution. And now you started an unrelated meta-discussion

Re: [systemd-devel] [packaging] split of systemd package

2015-11-11 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 11/11/2015 04:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 11.11.2015 um 17:03 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 11/11/2015 03:51 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Why not systemd-devel? Because these aren't development related discussion this list was multiple times statet also as

Re: [systemd-devel] [packaging] split of systemd package

2015-11-11 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 11/11/2015 03:51 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Why not systemd-devel? Because these aren't development related discussion and there is a need for separated collaborated git repository to prevent duplication of downstream work etc. JBG __

Re: [systemd-devel] Detect if a script runs during bootup

2015-11-11 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 11/11/2015 03:39 PM, Frank Steiner wrote: If I was able to work with systemd unit files, I could perfectly do what I want, but I'm stuck with this LSB file. Why are you stuck with that lsb file and what exactly does it do? ( Paste the content of it ) JBG ___

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