[systemd-devel] [PATCH] [RFCv4] Add sync timer to journal server

2013-03-18 Thread Oleksii Shevchuk
Sync journal with fdatasync after 10s of inactivity (by default), or after 10 messages (by default), or after 1h of last commit (by default). Intervals configured via SyncIntervalIdleSec, SyncIntervalMaxSec and SyncIntervalMsg options at journal.conf. Manual sync can be performed via sending SI

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] [RFCv3] Add sync timer to journal server

2013-03-18 Thread Oleksii Shevchuk
> > +if (! (f->writable && f->fd >= 0)) > > +return -1; > -1 means EPERM. Something different is needed. EINVAL/EBUSY/EFAULT ? > > +fdatasync(f->fd); > Apparently the only error code which could happen here is EIO. > Are you sure that we want to ignore it? I think

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/3] journal: add sd_journal_add_file

2013-03-18 Thread Kay Sievers
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > --- > A serie composed of three patches: > 1. this one: make sd_journal_add_file available to the wide public > 2. second one: allow opening of the journal in "stub" mode, without >any files > 3. third one: journalctl --file

[systemd-devel] [RFC PATCH 3/3] journalctl: allow the user to specify the file to use

2013-03-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
This is useful for debugging and feels pretty natural. For example answering the question "is this big .journal file worth keeping?" is made easier. --- man/journalctl.xml | 31 ++- src/journal/journalctl.c | 33 - 2 files changed,

[systemd-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/3] journal: allow opening without any files

2013-03-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Explicit flag is required, since this is supposed to be used mostly for debugging and it is better to catch the mistake of not specyfing any files. --- src/journal/sd-journal.c | 11 +++ src/systemd/sd-journal.h | 3 ++- 2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/j

[systemd-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/3] journal: add sd_journal_add_file

2013-03-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
--- A serie composed of three patches: 1. this one: make sd_journal_add_file available to the wide public 2. second one: allow opening of the journal in "stub" mode, without any files

Re: [systemd-devel] Enlightenment and systemd user session.

2013-03-18 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 4:33 AM, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: > On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Cedric BAIL wrote: >>As both of those process start visible application that should not >> be killed on a restart of the initialization daemon carelessly, they >> do have the same issue as Enlightenment

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] [RFCv2 (typos)] Add sync timer to journal server

2013-03-18 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 18:45 +0200, Oleksii Shevchuk wrote: > Sync journal with fdatasync after [...] 10 messages (by default) That's going to be kind of painful for the current GNOME userspace, we sadly emit a lot of crap at bootup =/ (I'm slowly trying to trim it, but...it's slow going) And boo

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] logind: Make more use of cleanup macros

2013-03-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 02:38:48PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > --- > src/login/inhibit.c |9 ++--- > src/login/loginctl.c| 23 --- > src/login/logind-dbus.c | 29 + > src/login/logind-seat-dbus.c| 2

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Use bus_maybe_send_reply() where applicable

2013-03-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 02:38:24PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > This is a followup to: commit 1a37b9b9043ef83e9900e460a9a1fccced3acf89 > > It will fix denial messages from dbus-daemon between gdm and > systemd-logind on logging into GNOME due to this. Applied. Zbyszek ___

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] [RFCv3] Add sync timer to journal server

2013-03-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:17:25PM +0200, Oleksii Shevchuk wrote: > Sync journal with fdatasync after 10s of inactivity (by default), or > after 10 messages (by default). Intervals configured > via SyncIntervalSec and SyncIntervalMsg options at journal.conf. > Manual sync can be performed via sendi

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Holger Winkelmann [TP]
You are right, hopefully systemd will not turn into a direction where only the ulra modern notebook or desktop can use it. we see a lot of advantages to use systemd in embedded environments. and we are talking here about_ - 180-680 MHh MIPS, ARM CPUs - 4-32 MB Flash - 32-128MB RAM at the low end.

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Kok, Auke-jan H
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 18.03.2013 19:45, schrieb Kay Sievers: >> I put an SSD in that crappy box today; it's down from 25 to 7 sec on >> the otherwise identical system. :) >> >> So I'll not need to debug any rotating media issues, I don't have any >> of the

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Kok, Auke-jan H
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Holger Winkelmann wrote: > Hi, > > Just a quick note, Systemd is a core function on a core OS. > and a coreOS is likely to be started from flash drives. We have > i.e. ATCA devices starting from eUSB Sticks or even SD cards. > > After they started the nodes could h

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2013 22:30, schrieb Holger Winkelmann: > Just a quick note, Systemd is a core function on a core OS. > and a coreOS is likely to be started from flash drives. We have > i.e. ATCA devices starting from eUSB Sticks or even SD cards. well, our ESXi starts also from a SD-card /dev/md1

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Holger Winkelmann
Hi, Just a quick note, Systemd is a core function on a core OS. and a coreOS is likely to be started from flash drives. We have i.e. ATCA devices starting from eUSB Sticks or even SD cards. After they started the nodes could have high perfomance SSD drives mounted for payload data, or even not st

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Reindl Harald > but keep in mind that for professional environments for many > years SSD is no option for some TB of data and even if > the price falls down you have to calculate redundancy for > RAID10 environemnts which can not be raplced by a SSD > due lack of relieability and no real-world

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] [RFCv3] Add sync timer to journal server

2013-03-18 Thread Oleksii Shevchuk
Sync journal with fdatasync after 10s of inactivity (by default), or after 10 messages (by default). Intervals configured via SyncIntervalSec and SyncIntervalMsg options at journal.conf. Manual sync can be performed via sending SIGUSR1. --- src/journal/journal-file.c | 25 +++- src/jour

Re: [systemd-devel] Enlightenment and systemd user session.

2013-03-18 Thread Kok, Auke-jan H
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Cedric BAIL wrote: >As both of those process start visible application that should not > be killed on a restart of the initialization daemon carelessly, they > do have the same issue as Enlightenment. > >Something that would be nice is if we could instruct

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2013 19:45, schrieb Kay Sievers: > I put an SSD in that crappy box today; it's down from 25 to 7 sec on > the otherwise identical system. :) > > So I'll not need to debug any rotating media issues, I don't have any > of them again. :) this is nice for you but keep in mind that for pro

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: > On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: >> Here is a chart: >> http://people.freedesktop.org/~kay/bootchart-20130317-1434.svg >> >> Rotating media and really cheap hardware looks very sad, and we take >> like 5 times longer t

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Kok, Auke-jan H
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: > Here is a chart: > http://people.freedesktop.org/~kay/bootchart-20130317-1434.svg > > Rotating media and really cheap hardware looks very sad, and we take > like 5 times longer to boot than Windows 8. I've seen many charts like that - in mos

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 4/5] udev: net-name-slot - disable by kernel command line switch

2013-03-18 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> So perhaps "net.predictable-names" > > Pushed this. Feel free to rename. Renamed to net.ifnames= to be more digestible for the kernel. If that ever happens ... I removed the initrd s

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] logind: Make more use of cleanup macros

2013-03-18 Thread Colin Walters
--- src/login/inhibit.c |9 ++--- src/login/loginctl.c| 23 --- src/login/logind-dbus.c | 29 + src/login/logind-seat-dbus.c| 22 +- src/login/logind-session-dbus.c | 29 +++-

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Use bus_maybe_send_reply() where applicable

2013-03-18 Thread Colin Walters
This is a followup to: commit 1a37b9b9043ef83e9900e460a9a1fccced3acf89 It will fix denial messages from dbus-daemon between gdm and systemd-logind on logging into GNOME due to this. See the previous commit for more details. --- src/core/dbus-job.c |4 ++-- src/core/dbus-manager.c

Re: [systemd-devel] doing something as the last activity on boot

2013-03-18 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Britton Kerin at 18/03/13 17:49 did gyre and gimble: > Hi everyone, I just had my first encounter with systemd and all in all I'm > highly impressed. > > One thing saddened me a bit though: its not obvious what to do if I just want > to start a service or do something *after* al

[systemd-devel] what to depend on to avoid file mtime discontinuities?

2013-03-18 Thread Britton Kerin
My service needs reasonably continuous mtimes on files, but at the moment there is a big discontinuity soon after boot. There are a number of web pages out there which tell you to put stuff like this: After=syslog.target network.target WantedBy=multi-user.target In your .service file lin

Re: [systemd-devel] doing something as the last activity on boot

2013-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2013 18:49, schrieb Britton Kerin: > Hi everyone, I just had my first encounter with systemd and all in all I'm > highly impressed. > > One thing saddened me a bit though: its not obvious what to do if I just want > to start a service or do something *after* all the stuff that shipped w

[systemd-devel] doing something as the last activity on boot

2013-03-18 Thread Britton Kerin
Hi everyone, I just had my first encounter with systemd and all in all I'm highly impressed. One thing saddened me a bit though: its not obvious what to do if I just want to start a service or do something *after* all the stuff that shipped with ths OS has happened and the system is fully operatio

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 4/5] udev: net-name-slot - disable by kernel command line switch

2013-03-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > So perhaps "net.predictable-names" Pushed this. Feel free to rename. -t ___ systemd-devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-dev

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/5] udev: builtin - use RUN rather than IMPORT where it makes sense

2013-03-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> If not, I guess we could >> rename it an use RUN, otherwise I suppose we'd have to stick with >> IMPORT... Anyone else have an opinion? > > I would not expect any real problems; the modp

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le lundi 18 mars 2013 à 14:34 +0100, Lennart Poettering a écrit : > On Mon, 18.03.13 09:39, Frederic Crozat ([email protected]) wrote: > > > Le dimanche 17 mars 2013 à 14:54 +0100, Kay Sievers a écrit : > > > Here is a chart: > > > http://people.freedesktop.org/~kay/bootchart-20130317-1434.svg >

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/5] udev: builtin - use RUN rather than IMPORT where it makes sense

2013-03-18 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: >> IMPORT is used to be called immediately and not be queued up to th

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/5] udev: builtin - use RUN rather than IMPORT where it makes sense

2013-03-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: > >>> IMPORT is used to be called immediately and not be queued up to the >>> end of the rules handling, so that later rules could as

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 3/5] man: udev - document kernel commandline options

2013-03-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 02:17:26PM +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: >>Every line in the rules file contains at least one key-value >> pair. >> - There are two kinds of keys: match and assignment. >> - If all match

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/5] udev: builtin - use RUN rather than IMPORT where it makes sense

2013-03-18 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: >> IMPORT is used to be called immediately and not be queued up to the >> end of the rules handling, so that later rules could assume that this >> rule has finished. PROGRAM would do the s

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/5] udev: builtin - use RUN rather than IMPORT where it makes sense

2013-03-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> The 'kmod' and 'firmware' builtin's do not set any variables, so no need to >> use >> IMPORT. Use RUN as is already the case for the 'uaccess' builtin. > > IMPORT is used to be called i

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 5/5] udev: make firmware loading optional and disable by default

2013-03-18 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > Distros that whish to support old kernels should set > --with-firmware-dirs="/usr/lib/firmware/updates:/usr/lib/firmware" > to retain the old behaviour. Applied. > The hack which makes firmware events skip the dependency tracking is still

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 4/5] udev: net-name-slot - disable by kernel command line switch

2013-03-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> The properties will still be set in the udev database, but they will not be >> used >> for setting the interface names. As for the other kernel commandline >> switches, >> we allow it

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 3/5] man: udev - document kernel commandline options

2013-03-18 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >>> --- >>> man/udev.xml | 43 --- >>> 1 file changed, 36 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) >>

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 4/5] udev: net-name-slot - disable by kernel command line switch

2013-03-18 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > The properties will still be set in the udev database, but they will not be > used > for setting the interface names. As for the other kernel commandline switches, > we allow it to be prefixed by 'rd.' to only apply in the initrd. > +IMPORT

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 3/5] man: udev - document kernel commandline options

2013-03-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> --- >> man/udev.xml | 43 --- >> 1 file changed, 36 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) > > Hmm, they are documented in systemd-udevd, what's the right

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 3/5] man: udev - document kernel commandline options

2013-03-18 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > --- > man/udev.xml | 43 --- > 1 file changed, 36 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) Hmm, they are documented in systemd-udevd, what's the right place? Kay ___

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/5] udev: builtin - use RUN rather than IMPORT where it makes sense

2013-03-18 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > The 'kmod' and 'firmware' builtin's do not set any variables, so no need to > use > IMPORT. Use RUN as is already the case for the 'uaccess' builtin. IMPORT is used to be called immediately and not be queued up to the end of the rules handl

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 3/5] man: udev - document kernel commandline options

2013-03-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 02:17:26PM +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: > --- > man/udev.xml | 43 --- > 1 file changed, 36 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/man/udev.xml b/man/udev.xml > index 34b1e6f..fed8a5e 100644 > --- a/man/udev.xml > +++ b/man/ud

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/5] man: document 'builtin'

2013-03-18 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > The new IMPORT{builtin} and RUN{builtin} were not documented. Also make it > clear that RUN= is > really an alias for RUN{program}=. Applied. Thanks, Kay ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-de

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 18.03.13 09:39, Frederic Crozat ([email protected]) wrote: > Le dimanche 17 mars 2013 à 14:54 +0100, Kay Sievers a écrit : > > Here is a chart: > > http://people.freedesktop.org/~kay/bootchart-20130317-1434.svg > > > > Rotating media and really cheap hardware looks very sad, and we take

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] [RFCv2 (typos)] Add sync timer to journal server

2013-03-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 16.03.13 18:45, Oleksii Shevchuk ([email protected]) wrote: > +int journal_file_sync(JournalFile *f) { > +if (! (f->writable && f->fd >= 0)) > +return -1; > + > +if (fdatasync(f->fd)) > +return -errno; > + > +return 0; > +} I'd really

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 5/5] udev: make firmware loading optional and disable by default

2013-03-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
Distros that whish to support old kernels should set --with-firmware-dirs="/usr/lib/firmware/updates:/usr/lib/firmware" to retain the old behaviour. The hack which makes firmware events skip the dependency tracking is still preserved, this would allow adding back firmware handling by a custom ud

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 4/5] udev: net-name-slot - disable by kernel command line switch

2013-03-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
The properties will still be set in the udev database, but they will not be used for setting the interface names. As for the other kernel commandline switches, we allow it to be prefixed by 'rd.' to only apply in the initrd. --- TODO | 2 -- man/udev.xml | 6

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 3/5] man: udev - document kernel commandline options

2013-03-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
--- man/udev.xml | 43 --- 1 file changed, 36 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) diff --git a/man/udev.xml b/man/udev.xml index 34b1e6f..fed8a5e 100644 --- a/man/udev.xml +++ b/man/udev.xml @@ -55,14 +55,12 @@ Configuration -udev configuration files

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/5] udev: builtin - use RUN rather than IMPORT where it makes sense

2013-03-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
The 'kmod' and 'firmware' builtin's do not set any variables, so no need to use IMPORT. Use RUN as is already the case for the 'uaccess' builtin. --- rules/50-udev-default.rules | 2 +- rules/80-drivers.rules | 12 ++-- 2 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) diff --git a/r

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/5] man: document 'builtin'

2013-03-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
The new IMPORT{builtin} and RUN{builtin} were not documented. Also make it clear that RUN= is really an alias for RUN{program}=. --- man/udev.xml | 36 ++-- 1 file changed, 30 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-) diff --git a/man/udev.xml b/man/udev.xml index 415cf8e..34

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] journalctl: add short version for _SYSTEMD_UNIT=

2013-03-18 Thread Harald Hoyer
Am 18.03.2013 14:08, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 02:04:39PM +0100, [email protected] wrote: >> From: Harald Hoyer >> >> Instead of typing the rather unusual: >> $ journalctl _SYSTEMD_UNIT=sshd.service > What about -u sshd.service? If anything, I think this should

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] journalctl: add short version for _SYSTEMD_UNIT=

2013-03-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 02:04:39PM +0100, [email protected] wrote: > From: Harald Hoyer > > Instead of typing the rather unusual: > $ journalctl _SYSTEMD_UNIT=sshd.service What about -u sshd.service? If anything, I think this should follow the same rules as -u. Zbyszek __

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] journalctl: add short version for _SYSTEMD_UNIT=

2013-03-18 Thread harald
From: Harald Hoyer Instead of typing the rather unusual: $ journalctl _SYSTEMD_UNIT=sshd.service one can now type $ journalctl sshd.service -- Logs begin at So 2013-02-24 20:54:44 CET, end at Mo 2013-03-18 14:01:01 CET. -- Mär 18 07:48:26 lenovo sshd[400]: Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22.

Re: [systemd-devel] Enlightenment and systemd user session.

2013-03-18 Thread Simon McVittie
On 16/03/13 15:10, Cedric BAIL wrote: > I think I am a little bit late about integrating systemd user > session in a desktop Not really; as far as I can see, non-trivial systemd user sessions under X11 need some more thought, and some more code. Specifically, they need at least a change to lo

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Holger Winkelmann [TP]
And make acceptance tests on such machines ;-) - Original Message - > 'Twas brillig, and Kay Sievers at 18/03/13 10:42 did gyre and gimble: > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 02:54:01PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: > >>> H

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Kay Sievers at 18/03/13 10:42 did gyre and gimble: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 02:54:01PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: >>> Here is a chart: >>> http://people.freedesktop.org/~kay/bootchart-20130317-1434.svg >>

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Harald Hoyer
Am 17.03.2013 14:54, schrieb Kay Sievers: > Here is a chart: > http://people.freedesktop.org/~kay/bootchart-20130317-1434.svg > > Rotating media and really cheap hardware looks very sad, and we take > like 5 times longer to boot than Windows 8. > > Why does bootchart stop before all the *really

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2013 11:42, schrieb Kay Sievers: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 02:54:01PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: >>> Here is a chart: >>> http://people.freedesktop.org/~kay/bootchart-20130317-1434.svg >>> >>> Rotating media and r

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 02:54:01PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: >> Here is a chart: >> http://people.freedesktop.org/~kay/bootchart-20130317-1434.svg >> >> Rotating media and really cheap hardware looks very sad, and we take >> l

Re: [systemd-devel] bootchart issues on slow hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le dimanche 17 mars 2013 à 14:54 +0100, Kay Sievers a écrit : > Here is a chart: > http://people.freedesktop.org/~kay/bootchart-20130317-1434.svg > > Rotating media and really cheap hardware looks very sad, and we take > like 5 times longer to boot than Windows 8. > > Why does bootchart stop be