Re: permissions and security

2002-03-04 Thread Frank Carreiro
Ahhh yes.. I completely forgot about this. I've messed around with rsync long ago. It worked reliably and supported ssh. Shouldn't be all that tough to install rsync on the remote system if they don't already have it. I'd recommend it. Frank Cameron Simpson wrote: >>On 10:33 04 Mar 200

Re: permissions and security

2002-03-04 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cameron Simpson wrote: >On 10:33 04 Mar 2002, Frank Carreiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >| >ncftp IS ftp. Comparing it to scp doesn't make sense. >| >Why not use sftp instead? You are not required to input the path and >| >it's very mu

Re: permissions and security

2002-03-04 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 10:33 04 Mar 2002, Frank Carreiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | >ncftp IS ftp. Comparing it to scp doesn't make sense. | >Why not use sftp instead? You are not required to input the path and | >it's very much like what you are doing now. | >>> | >>>Except that, as far as I can te

Re: permissions and security

2002-03-04 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frank Carreiro wrote: >I'll have to check out ncftp. I heard it was a good product. Just >didn't realize how good :-) It's good software, and so is the ncftpd server. Unfortunately, the latter isn't open source, but it's free for personal use.

Re: permissions and security

2002-03-04 Thread Frank Carreiro
Hmmm... Just tried it with sftp and no can do. Returns an error stating that it cannot download/upload a directory. Only thing then would be to tar/gzip then sftp the file or scp with the -r option. I'll have to check out ncftp. I heard it was a good product. Just didn't realize how good :-

Re: permissions and security

2002-03-04 Thread rpjday
On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Frank Carreiro wrote: > Does ncftp do directories? I was unaware of any ftp product with this > ability. If you could I would simply tar/gzip it then sftp the file(s) > across. if by this, do you mean, does it work recursively, yup. ncftp> get -r rday __

Re: permissions and security

2002-03-04 Thread Frank Carreiro
> > >* and then David Talkington declared > >>> Frank Carreiro wrote: >>> >> >ncftp IS ftp. Comparing it to scp doesn't make sense. > >Why not use sftp instead? You are not required to input the path and >it's very much like what you are doing now. >>> >>> >>> Except

Re: permissions and security

2002-03-04 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then David Talkington declared > Frank Carreiro wrote: > > >ncftp IS ftp. Comparing it to scp doesn't make sense. > > > >Why not use sftp instead? You are not required to input the path and > >it's very much like what you are doing now.

Re: permissions and security

2002-03-04 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frank Carreiro wrote: >ncftp IS ftp. Comparing it to scp doesn't make sense. > >Why not use sftp instead? You are not required to input the path and >it's very much like what you are doing now. Except that, as far as I can tell, sftp doesn't do

Re: permissions and security

2002-03-04 Thread Frank Carreiro
ncftp IS ftp. Comparing it to scp doesn't make sense. Why not use sftp instead? You are not required to input the path and it's very much like what you are doing now. I like openssh personally. I believe it comes with RedHat 7.x Frank > >Hmmm... good question, perhaps cumbersome is a bad

Re: permissions and security

2002-03-02 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Sat, 2002-03-02 at 12:15, Nick Wilson wrote: > * and then Gordon Messmer declared > > > My problem is that ssh and scp seem so cumbersome. Is there a ssh > > > equivalent to ncftp I might try? > > > > Cumbersome in what way? I've always found them to be much easier to use > > than the old

Re: permissions and security

2002-03-02 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Gordon Messmer declared > > My problem is that ssh and scp seem so cumbersome. Is there a ssh > > equivalent to ncftp I might try? > > Cumbersome in what way? I've always found them to be much easier to use > than the older telnet/ft

Re: permissions and security

2002-03-02 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 00:53, Nick Wilson wrote: > > * and then Gordon Messmer declared > > As others have suggested, ftp probably isn't the best transfer method in > > terms of security... or anything else for that matter. > > > > Think of "root" as "the big hammer". Its use should be reserv

RE: permissions and security

2002-03-01 Thread Paul Hamm
nt: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: permissions and security -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Gordon Messmer declared > As others have suggested, ftp probably isn't the best transfer method in > terms of security... o

Re: permissions and security

2002-03-01 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nick Wilson wrote: >My problem is that ssh and scp seem so cumbersome. Is there a ssh >equivalent to ncftp I might try? sftp? - -d - -- David Talkington PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp - -- http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley

Re: permissions and security

2002-03-01 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Paul Hamm declared > Oh and please tell me you are not running the local machine as root < > Very bad thing to do. Use sudo instead much better idea. Of course not, I'm no Linux guru but I'm not a complete twonk (despite what my

Re: permissions and security

2002-03-01 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Gordon Messmer declared > As others have suggested, ftp probably isn't the best transfer method in > terms of security... or anything else for that matter. > > Think of "root" as "the big hammer". Its use should be reserved for > sit

Re: permissions and security

2002-03-01 Thread Benny Pedersen
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RE: permissions and security

2002-02-28 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gordon Messmer wrote: >On Thu, 2002-02-28 at 14:06, ashley thomas wrote: > >>Oh and please tell me you are not running the local machine as root >< >>Very bad thing to do. Use sudo instead much better idea. > >i have heard this a lot of times

RE: permissions and security

2002-02-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Thu, 2002-02-28 at 14:06, ashley thomas wrote: >Oh and please tell me you are not running the local machine as root < >Very bad thing to do. Use sudo instead much better idea. i have heard this a lot of times ...how is it different ? could you pls explain it to me ? Logging in and ac

Re: permissions and security

2002-02-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Thu, 2002-02-28 at 08:35, Nick Wilson wrote: > Hi all, > someone told me it was a *very* bad idea to have passwords sitting in > text files on my machine. It can be, but it's usually better than having the resource which would otherwise require a password left unprotected. For example, I use

Re: permissions and security

2002-02-28 Thread Matthew Baxa
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RE: permissions and security

2002-02-28 Thread ashley thomas
midifications - Calvin Ashley Thomas, N.C.S.U >From: Paul Hamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: permissions and security >Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:09:20 -0500 > &

RE: permissions and security

2002-02-28 Thread Paul Hamm
tell me you are not running the local machine as root < Very bad thing to do. Use sudo instead much better idea. -Original Message- From: Nick Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:36 AM To: RedHat-List Subject: permissions and security -BEGIN

Re: permissions and security

2002-02-28 Thread Ed Wilts
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 05:35:57PM +0100, Nick Wilson wrote: > someone told me it was a *very* bad idea to have passwords sitting in > text files on my machine. They were right! > Okay, I can see that, I'm the root user though and I'd like to have a > little script to connect via ncftp to my rem

permissions and security

2002-02-28 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, someone told me it was a *very* bad idea to have passwords sitting in text files on my machine. Okay, I can see that, I'm the root user though and I'd like to have a little script to connect via ncftp to my remote server. (complete with pass