On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 12:47, Mike Burger wrote:
> Ok...another experiment proved me wrong, again.
>
> Geez...I really ought to learn to test my theories before I spout off.
>
> Sorry.
>
I guess you can disregard my test I just sent.
BTW Mike is there a particular reason that you always repl
On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 12:45, Mike Burger wrote:
> That hasn't been my experience. If root creates a file in my home
> directory, I can't delete it unless I'm root, or I'm part of the group
> that owns it and the file is set for group write permissions.
>
always been that way for me. I never re
I blame Redhat too...for sleeping with my wife1
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> Sorry but I just can't help rep
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On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:06:21 -0500, Rend, Jon (Jon) % wrote:
> Actually, I need to defend myself hehehe.
>
> I did not go CHMODING for the sake of it. I in fact have a RAIDZONE
> box which is a fileserver that back ends REDHAT 7.2 with lets all do
> t
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Michael Schwendt wrote:
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> On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:34:09 -0500 (EST), Robert P. J. Day wrote:
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> > the fact that the original poster could create a file as root, and
> > remove it as a "dumb test user" means he must have eithe
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On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:34:09 -0500 (EST), Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> the fact that the original poster could create a file as root, and
> remove it as a "dumb test user" means he must have either modified an
> existing directory and removed its sticky b
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On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:45:35 -0500 (EST), Mike Burger wrote:
> That hasn't been my experience. If root creates a file in my home
> directory, I can't delete it unless I'm root, or I'm part of the group
> that owns it and the file is set for group wri
obert P. J. Day [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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you know, before everyone starts psychoanalyzing my interpersonal
skills, a small observation on what really griped my
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Subject: Re: The "rm" command and non root users
you know, before everyone starts psychoanalyzing my interpersonal
skills, a small observation on what really griped my wagger about the
original post:
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Rend, Jon (Jon) % wrote:
> I am n
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you know, before everyone starts psychoanalyzing my interpersonal
skills, a small observation on what really griped my wagger about the
original post:
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Rend, Jon (Jon) % wrote:
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Ok...another experiment proved me wrong, again.
Geez...I really ought to learn to test my theories before I spout off.
Sorry.
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Thornton Prime wrote:
> > I am new to RED-HAT Linux but I was amazed at this behavior and can't
> > find anything on it.
> >
> > I created some dummy
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> > To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: The "rm" command and non root users
> >
> > I am new to RED-HAT Linux but I was amazed at t
There's nothing to fix. Log back in as that test user, try to rm the
file, and tell it yes when it asks about removing the write protected
file. You'll see that you get an error that you couldn't do it.
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Rend, Jon (Jon) % wrote:
> I am new to RED-HAT Linux but I was amazed
you know, before everyone starts psychoanalyzing my interpersonal
skills, a small observation on what really griped my wagger about the
original post:
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Rend, Jon (Jon) % wrote:
> I am new to RED-HAT Linux but I was amazed at this behavior and can't find
> anything on it.
this
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Andrew MacKenzie wrote:
> +++ Robert P. J. Day [RedHat] [Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:49:29AM -0500]:
> > > I am new to RED-HAT Linux but I was amazed at this behavior and can't find
> > > anything on it.
>
>
>
> > if you're going to be the admin on a linux box, it's time to take
+++ Robert P. J. Day [RedHat] [Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:49:29AM -0500]:
> > I am new to RED-HAT Linux but I was amazed at this behavior and can't find
> > anything on it.
> if you're going to be the admin on a linux box, it's time to take
> responsibility for learning at least how basic permissi
On 12/05/02 08:24 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
> Would be nice if Red Hat and others would include by default for root a
> "motd" that displayed as root reading:
IIRC, Red Hat 7.3 Gnome login did just that. I'm away from my Red Hat
8.0 machine as I write this, but I think this feature went away
On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 07:49, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> since others have already explained how this works, let me point out a
> larger problem. if you don't understand how simple directory permissions
> work, you are *definitely* not ready for root privilege. you need to take
> a course or spen
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Rend, Jon (Jon) % wrote:
> I am new to RED-HAT Linux but I was amazed at this behavior and can't find
> anything on it.
no, you are not simply new to red hat linux, you are clearly new to unix
in general, to which i will return shortly.
> I created some dummy files as/owned b
> I am new to RED-HAT Linux but I was amazed at this behavior and can't
> find anything on it.
>
> I created some dummy files as/owned by root on my WS with only "r"
> permission bit set for group and world. Then I logged into the same box
> as a dumb test user with no privileges and used "rm" to r
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> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: The "rm" command and non root users
>
> I am new to RED-HAT Linux but I was amazed at this behavior and can't find
> anyt
I am new to RED-HAT Linux
but I was amazed at this behavior and can't find anything on
it.
I created some dummy files
as/owned by root on my WS with only "r" permission bit set for group and world.
Then I logged into the same box as a dumb test user with no privileges and used
"rm" to rem
> the file /etc/passwd is readable by everyone and anyone with a userid of
> 0 has root privilages I think. I have never tried this but seems like I
> read that you could change a userid to 0 and have an effective root.
Yes, the above is true. And when you do it you'll be surprised that
there
On Wed, 2002-09-11 at 19:59, ebinc wrote:
> Hi
> Is their somthing I can type in after I remotly log in as su, that will
> display if anybody else has root privalige
> or users in general
> Thanks Ed
>
if you are wanting to see who is logged in you can do
w
if you want to see processes running
On Wed, 2002-09-11 at 21:41, ebinc wrote:
> Thanks for helping
> Do I just type cat /etc/passwd like this at the prompt
> what exactly do I type for group
Yes, in your terminal window just type "cat /etc/passwd". That will
display the entire list of the users with accounts on your system. Mos
Thanks for helping
Do I just type cat /etc/passwd like this at the prompt
what exactly do I type for group
You wrote
Your users are recorded in /etc/passwd... just do a 'cat /etc/passwd' to
see all the users on that system. Then for anyone you wish to determine
the group allocation for you ca
> to see all the groups on your system run 'groups'.
>
sorry.. to see the groups.. cat /etc/group
Anthony
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On Wed, 2002-09-11 at 20:59, ebinc wrote:
> Hi
> Is their somthing I can type in after I remotly log in as su, that will
> display if anybody else has root privalige
> or users in general
> Thanks Ed
Your users are recorded in /etc/passwd... just do a 'cat /etc/passwd' to
see all the users on th
Hi
Is their somthing I can type in after I remotly log in as su, that will
display if anybody else has root privalige
or users in general
Thanks Ed
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When Gnome is started by non-root user the following two error
msgs occur. While gnome does at least come up, the control-
center apps are unavailable as might be expected by 2nd error msg.
"Could not open Help Topics File NULL" and "Unable to reach the
Control-Center"
Is anyone familiar with
>Greetings!
>I've created a couple of users using usercfg. I've assigned them
>passwords and they login fine now, but they use any apps or issue >most of
>the commands:
>[steve@HAL steve]$ ls -la
>total 14
>drwxr-xr-x 2 stevesteve1024 Jun 7 18:52 .
>drwxr-xr-x 7 root root
Sorry. I've asked about this problem before, but i just can't seem to get
it. (Bear in mind that i'm a newbie.) Anyways...
When i log in as root i can open Netscape. When i login as another user, i
can't. If i try to open netscape from the shell using
/usr/bin/netscape
i get error messa
Maxwell,
Well, that wasn't quite it, but you got me thinking down the right path.
Along with the "You don't have Netscape installed" messages, i was also
getting "/dev/null permission denied" messages. So, i went to
/usr/bin/netscape, which is a script. And lo and behond, I found that this
script
On 07-Jun-98 Leston Buell wrote:
> When i log in as root i can open Netscape. When i login as another user,
> i
> can't. If i try to open netscape from the shell using
>
> /usr/bin/netscape
>
> i get error messages saying that i don't have Netscape installed. When i
> asked about this pr
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