I blame Redhat too.......for sleeping with my wife!!!!!!!!1

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Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: The "rm" command and non root users


> Sorry but I just can't help replying to this one, but how can you say
> that you're a very competent UNIX and PC System ADMIN when you were lazy
> enough to check out simple things like the sticky bit. I doubt you even
> knew about that sticky bit and blamed it on Red Hat.
>
> His reply to you was just appropriate, for someone who brags he knows
sh*t.
>
> Rend, Jon (Jon) % wrote:
> > Lets drop it ALL, it's getting boring.
> >
> > My mistake, was being lazy and of course forgetting about the Sticky Bit
> > impact.
> >
> > Big Bobs, well I think he knows his mistake.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert P. J. Day [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 12:34 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: Re: The "rm" command and non root users
> >
> >
> >
> > you know, before everyone starts psychoanalyzing my interpersonal
> > skills, a small observation on what really griped my wagger about the
> > original post:
> >
> > On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Rend, Jon (Jon) % wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I am new to RED-HAT Linux but I was amazed at this behavior and can't
find
> >>anything on it.
> >
> >
> > this is well documented in a number of places, but that's not the issue
> > here.
> >
> >
> >>I created some dummy files as/owned by root on my WS with only "r"
> >>permission bit set for group and world. Then I logged into the same box
as
> >
> > a
> >
> >>dumb test user with no privileges and used "rm" to remove the file and
god
> >>damn it I was given the option to remove the "write protected file"
> >
> > ^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > i see no compelling reason for vulgarity in a simple post -- that was
> > social faux pas number one.
> >
> >
> >>How do you turn this off, do I have to use the non GNU "rm". Anyone help
> >
> > ???
> >
> > and *this* suggests that something is somehow misconfigured when, in
fact,
> > the command is doing exactly what it's supposed to.  but wait ...
there's
> > more.
> >
> > as most of you know, the "sticky bit" on directories is used to
*prevent*
> > exactly this kind of behavior:
> >
> >   $ ls -ld /tmp
> >   drwxrwxrwt
> >
> > this means that, while anyone can *create* a file in /tmp, only root or
> > the owner can remove it.
> >
> > the fact that the original poster could create a file as root, and
remove
> > it as a "dumb test user" means he must have either modified an existing
> > directory and removed its sticky bit, or created a new directory with
> > perms 777.  in short, what he is describing could *not* have happened
> > on a standard red hat install.  i just had one of my students do a
> >
> >   # find / -type d -perm 777
> >
> > and it found only one match -- a hidden directory under /tmp.
therefore,
> > i am concluding that the original poster either "chmod"ed an existing
> > directory to remove its sticky bit, or created a new directory with
> > notoriously dangerous perms of 777 -- neither of which he admitted to
> > in his posting.
> >
> > quite simply, i'm convinced that what he is describing could not have
> > happened on a standard RH install without some help from him.  if i'm
> > wrong, then mea culpa.
> >
> > we now return you to your regular frothing at the mouth.
> >
> > rday
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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