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On Behalf Of Dmitry Melekhov
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:43 AM
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Subject: Re: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?
Dan Bar Dov wrote:
BTW, I talked directly with a SuSE distributor regarding their SLES
product, same concept as
003 11:43 AM
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> Subject: Re: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?
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> Dan Bar Dov wrote:
> >
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> > BTW, I talked directly with a SuSE distributor regarding their SLES
> > product, same concept as AS, and he confirmed my ideas. You pa
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:33:50 +0200, Dan Bar Dov wrote:
> However, the issue at hand is the license agreement.
> Reading the quotes sent by Dmitry Melekhov [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > The term "Installed Servers" means the number of servers on which
> > C
Dan Bar Dov wrote:
BTW, I talked directly with a SuSE distributor regarding their SLES
product, same concept as AS, and he confirmed my ideas. You pay for the
services, you are allowed to do with the software whatever you want.
Sorry, you are wrong :-(
They also force you to buy "service" on
> -Original Message-
> done.
>
> Red Hat has made, and is continuing to made, an important and
expensive
> contribution to the community. Although you may legally continue to
> distribute your own copies of the AS SRPMs, if everyone does it,
> eventually Red Hat will be forced to discon
Roger wrote:
This means you cannot install it on multiple servers from the CDs you
received when you buy a subscription, without licensing the additional
servers. As you are free to 'roll your own' version of Advanced Server,
it is quite acceptable to have one server that is licensed from CDs and
This means you cannot install it on multiple servers from the CDs you
received when you buy a subscription, without licensing the additional
servers. As you are free to 'roll your own' version of Advanced Server,
it is quite acceptable to have one server that is licensed from CDs and
other servers
or Service per
Installed Server, pay a penalty equal to twenty percent (20%) of the
underreported fees.
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On Behalf Of Dmitry Melekhov
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 1:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Samuel Flory wrote:
> Actually I was trying to point out how silly it is to use AS outside
> of RH's program. The reason to use AS is not that there is anything
> special about 95% of the AS packages. The reason to use AS is to have
> someone standing behind you when you r
Ed Wilts wrote:
On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 09:30:11AM -0800, Samuel Flory wrote:
For the most part RH is simply packaging these programs in an rpm.
Take a quick look through the changelogs:
rpm -q --changelog | less
Now tell me that it's a simple packaging. You're so far out of line
On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 09:30:11AM -0800, Samuel Flory wrote:
> Ed Wilts wrote:
>
> >Morally, it's another story. You should by a subscription for all your
> >systems, but you don't have to legally do it as long as the packages you
> >redistribute are GPL'd.
> >
> >
> >
> I'm missing me the m
Ed Wilts wrote:
On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 12:20:34PM +0400, Dmitry Melekhov wrote:
I disagree with you too :-)
Original post says that one want to buy subscription to one server
and then install updates from sources to several servers.
This is impossible according to Service Agreement.
You must
Dmitry Melekhov wrote:
I disagree with you too :-)
Original post says that one want to buy subscription to one server
and then install updates from sources to several servers.
This is impossible according to Service Agreement.
You must pay for service for all servers.
If you can't read this is n
On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 12:20:34PM +0400, Dmitry Melekhov wrote:
> I disagree with you too :-)
> Original post says that one want to buy subscription to one server
> and then install updates from sources to several servers.
> This is impossible according to Service Agreement.
> You must pay for ser
14, 2003 1:23 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?
>
> Roger wrote:
> >>>The reason for wanting to subscribe for the SRPMS is for some level
of
> >>>service in receiving the SRPMS as quickly as possible after a
securit
Roger wrote:
The reason for wanting to subscribe for the SRPMS is for some level of
service in receiving the SRPMS as quickly as possible after a security
release. Although Red Hat makes the SRPMS publicly available on
updates.redhat.com, they may choose to delay the release of them except
for th
> > The reason for wanting to subscribe for the SRPMS is for some level of
> > service in receiving the SRPMS as quickly as possible after a security
> > release. Although Red Hat makes the SRPMS publicly available on
> > updates.redhat.com, they may choose to delay the release of them except
> >
Roger wrote:
I disagree with you too :-)
Original post says that one want to buy subscription to one server
and then install updates from sources to several servers.
This is impossible according to Service Agreement.
You must pay for service for all servers.
If you can't read this is not my proble
> I disagree with you too :-)
> Original post says that one want to buy subscription to one server
> and then install updates from sources to several servers.
> This is impossible according to Service Agreement.
> You must pay for service for all servers.
> If you can't read this is not my problem
Roger wrote:
I do not think it is possible to distribute these ISOs outside my
organisation as it will violate Red Hat's trademarks, however it is quite
easy to create your own version, I may publish some instructions on how I
did it if people are interested.
Yes, this is interesting :-)
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Dan Bar Dov wrote:
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On Behalf Of Roger
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?
According to http://www.redhat.com/licenses/rhlas_us.html
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> On Behalf Of Roger
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:41 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?
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> According to http://www.redhat.com/li
Dan Bar Dov wrote:
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If so, I guess I'll have to purchase one subscription just to
^
get
the
SRPMS from RHN, which I then have it automatically build the RPM
and
distributed to my other servers.
> -Original Message-
> >
> > > >
> > > > If so, I guess I'll have to purchase one subscription just to
get
> > the
> > > > SRPMS from RHN, which I then have it automatically build the RPM
and
> > > > distributed to my other servers.
> > >
> > > This is impossible :-)
> > > Accroding to Se
According to http://www.redhat.com/licenses/rhlas_us.html you cannot
install the purchased product on more that one machine, without buying
additional licenses. In addition you also give Red Hat the authority to
conduct on site audits to verify compliance.
However, as Red Hat Advanced Server is n
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From: "Dan Bar Dov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?
>
>
> > >
> > > If so, I guess I'll have to purchase
> >
> > If so, I guess I'll have to purchase one subscription just to get
the
> > SRPMS from RHN, which I then have it automatically build the RPM and
> > distributed to my other servers.
>
> This is impossible :-)
> Accroding to Service Agreement you have to buy subscription to all
> Installed
Roger wrote:
I have recently created my own version of Advanced Server 2.1 using the
SRPMS that Red Hat have made available and intend on using it on a few
dozen servers.
I have noticed that so far this year, 8 security packages for AS 2.1 have
been released, but none of the SRPMS have yet appear
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can I donwload RH Advcanced Server 2.1 from a ftp server ??
If not from RedHat they are playing a M$ role ..
Does anywone have the RH 2.1 AS iso's ??
Keep in mind that AS is really just 7.1, with a few extra packages,
and some updates. What you are really pay
> Can I donwload RH Advcanced Server 2.1 from a ftp server ??
>
> If not from RedHat they are playing a M$ role ..
> Does anywone have the RH 2.1 AS iso's ??
ISOs are not available but you can download the source rpms
and compile it. Redhat is under no obligation to make their
software easy t
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