Re: RH9 mouse cursors

2003-10-04 Thread Jim Hayward
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 23:15, Jim Hayward wrote: > > Then restart X. Shez, what was I thinking. :-P Forget I said that. Just logout and login back in. Regards, Jim H signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: RH9 mouse cursors

2003-10-04 Thread Jim Hayward
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 09:11, NiteOwl wrote: > Anyone knows how to get rid of those annoying color mouse cursors in RH9? > I need the old, plain, default, non-flashing, vanilla X11R6 cursors, please!!! Well, if you "really" don't want the new cursors... Create the file ( if you don't already hav

RE: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread bruce
hey... my $0.02 worth..and i don't normally follow this group/thread for linux to compete/succeed against windows/msoft on the desktop... there needs to be a rock solid office set of apps... for 20% of the price... then you would see msoft fall like a rock... if oracle put in a $1 billion, an

Samba DC question

2003-10-04 Thread Thomas Fortner
Yes, but it is easier to use a couple of workstation class systems running DC services under Windows than it is to do this with Samba. There is a HOWTO on the Samba web site that documents this procedure. Tom Thomas S. Fortner Burleson, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] "but we preach Christ cruc

TX2000 RAID controller

2003-10-04 Thread Thomas Fortner
Earl, Promise gave me the same run around when I called them for help. The problem is that the controller's BIOS loads into memory, but the driver doesn't automatically find that BIOS in memory. The result is that each drive in the array is treated by the OS as a separate drive and not a membe

Re: How to force BASH to re-evaluate PS1

2003-10-04 Thread TK
TK wrote: Lets say: PS1="[${INSTALL_DIR##*/}]" Bash is able to evalute it for the first time; but later, after INSTALL_DIR's value changes, Bash prompt wouldn't change accordingly. So is there a systematic way to force BASH to reflect the change? Thanks. -tk 5 minutes after sending out the

How to force BASH to re-evaluate PS1

2003-10-04 Thread TK
Lets say: PS1="[${INSTALL_DIR##*/}]" Bash is able to evalute it for the first time; but later, after INSTALL_DIR's value changes, Bash prompt wouldn't change accordingly. So is there a systematic way to force BASH to reflect the change? Thanks. -tk -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mail

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread Bret Hughes
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 17:55, Hal Burgiss wrote: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:49:46PM -0500, Jeff Wimmer wrote: > > > at a reasonable price and marketed correctly with Openoffice, they'll have a > > desktop that competes hands down with Windows. > > There's still one big difference ... windows is

Re: RULE (branch of former 'Minimal install RH8?')

2003-10-04 Thread Michael Fratoni
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 04 October 2003 07:49 pm, Ed Wilts wrote: > On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 01:40:48AM +0200, R Sánchez wrote: > > What it IS: > > * A project that makes avaidable an installer which picks > > those apps from your original redhat iso's. > > > > Rea

Re: strange files

2003-10-04 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Martin Mewes wrote: > Howdy, > > Am Sam, den 04.10.2003 schrieb Sasa Stupar um 23:38: > > > How can I debug them to see which program is dying? > > I kew this would come up, but unfortunately I have to leave this to the > experts for I do not know myself ... > > kind regards >

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto
Ed Wilts: >What makes you think that Red Hat has given up on the desktop? There is >the current RHEL WS line although I will agree that for the home user, >this doesn't compete with Windows for pricing. Well, we all know now that the Red Hat Linux boxed set was not profitable.. It seems to me

Re: Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread Tom Pollerman
On 04 Oct 2003 18:33:56 +0100 Paula Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sáb, 2003-10-04 at 17:03, Klaus Zahradnik wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 04:44:38PM +0100, Paula Fernandes wrote: > > > > > > Hi list, > > > > > > > > > I need to mount a disk with a windows system to recover some

Re: RULE (branch of former 'Minimal install RH8?')

2003-10-04 Thread R Sánchez
Ok Ed. I'm not trying to convince anyone. But I just don't see it that way. If I install postfix instead of sendmail, it's still RedHat. So if I use a script to automate that election, it's still RedHat. If I make a script (or app) to choose the packages I want, it's still... Reven - Origin

Re: RULE (branch of former 'Minimal install RH8?')

2003-10-04 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz
At 17:49 10/4/2003, you wrote: Copyright issues - NO. Trademark issues - YES, if you call the result Red Hat Linux. It's simply not Red Hat Linux. From what I've read, it is a very valuable project to a lot of people, but the result is not Red Hat Linux. But Ed... nobody is calling the result "R

Re: RULE (branch of former 'Minimal install RH8?')

2003-10-04 Thread Ed Wilts
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 01:40:48AM +0200, R Sánchez wrote: > There's a lot being said about RULE, and I regret the fact that most > of the things said are pointed out by people who don't know what RULE > is. [snip] > What it IS: > * A project that makes avaidable an installer which picks > thos

RULE (branch of former 'Minimal install RH8?')

2003-10-04 Thread R Sánchez
There's a lot being said about RULE, and I regret the fact that most of the things said are pointed out by people who don't know what RULE is. What it is NOT: * A distro * A distro that takes packages made by Redhat and cracks them to fit their own logo. What it IS: * A project that tests which l

Re: Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread alex
Paula Fernandes wrote: On Sáb, 2003-10-04 at 17:03, Klaus Zahradnik wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 04:44:38PM +0100, Paula Fernandes wrote: Hi list, I need to mount a disk with a windows system to recover some files from the disk. I plug it into the secondary IDE has slave. I have created a new

Re: Minimal install RH8?

2003-10-04 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz
At 15:13 10/4/2003, you wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 03:04:08PM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: > Did you even look at the RULE page that someone suggested to you? That is > exactly what RULE does: allow you to install a Red Hat Linux system into > older hardware, or any hardware with less memory (

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread Jeff Wimmer
So very true. JEFFREY WIMMER - Original Message - From: "Hal Burgiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 5:55 PM Subject: Re: OS Desktop Business Model? > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:49:46PM -0500, Jeff Wimmer wrote: > > > at a reasonable pri

Re: SpeedStream 5200 ADSL Modem

2003-10-04 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:18:02PM -0500, Bob wrote: > What I am wondering is when the DSL service is connected (they use DHCP to > provide my computer with the IP address) will that disable my manually > configured NIC? It shouldn't at all, as long as you have compatible hardware and everything

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:49:46PM -0500, Jeff Wimmer wrote: > at a reasonable price and marketed correctly with Openoffice, they'll have a > desktop that competes hands down with Windows. There's still one big difference ... windows is for weenies, and Linux is not. -- Hal Burgiss -- red

Proper way to upgrade several RPMs

2003-10-04 Thread Andrew Schott
Hello. I have built a list of GNOME 2.4 RPMs that I wish to upgrade a RHL 9 install. However even though I have satisfied the new installation RPMS, the old versions are still causing me issues. Any ideas? I am not going to use force. There has yet to be a reason for me EVER to go to the ext

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread Jeff Wimmer
- Original Message - From: "Ed Wilts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 4:36 PM Subject: Re: OS Desktop Business Model? > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 06:28:16PM -0300, Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto wrote: > > Given that most of Microsoft's profit c

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread Jason Dixon
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 17:36, Ed Wilts wrote: > I believe that we will soon see Red Hat make a push back into the SOHO > market with a new boxed product that will be very competitive against > Windows (financially)... It would not surprise me to see a big push > into other markets with this produc

Re: SpeedStream 5200 ADSL Modem

2003-10-04 Thread Jeff Wimmer
Is your old LAN a 10Base2 lan? Why would you want to keep that rather than getting nic's for your other systems and going 10BaseT? That way, with an inexpensive ethernet hub, plug your DSL modem into it, then plug your other systems into it. Seems 2 nics should work in your system, but it will b

RE: SpeedStream 5200 ADSL Modem

2003-10-04 Thread Bob
Hal, I checked with the DSL provider and the modem does the authentication so I don't need to worry about that. What I am concerned about now though is that the system board has an onboard Ethernet NIC. I haven't been using that for my home LAN because I needed a plug-in NIC that supported BNC (o

Re: strange files

2003-10-04 Thread Martin Mewes
Howdy, Am Sam, den 04.10.2003 schrieb Sasa Stupar um 23:38: > How can I debug them to see which program is dying? I kew this would come up, but unfortunately I have to leave this to the experts for I do not know myself ... kind regards Martin -- http://webmin.mamemu.de/WebMin

Re: strange files

2003-10-04 Thread Sasa Stupar
Martin Mewes wrote: Howdy, Am Sam, den 04.10.2003 schrieb Sasa Stupar um 19:05: I have noticed lately that I have some files with name core.x where is a different number at each file. They are all 2 megs and they are all in the / directory. Running RH8. Any idea? Seems to me, that y

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread Ed Wilts
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 06:28:16PM -0300, Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto wrote: > Given that most of Microsoft's profit comes from the desktop, I'm wondering: > if Linux, as I see it, is on its way to becoming a complete, competitive > desktop system, would this money simply cease to flow? Is the

OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto
Given that most of Microsoft's profit comes from the desktop, I'm wondering: if Linux, as I see it, is on its way to becoming a complete, competitive desktop system, would this money simply cease to flow? Is there any model at sight for profitable Desktop distros? It looks like RedHat has given

Re: Minimal install RH8?

2003-10-04 Thread Ed Wilts
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 03:04:08PM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: > Did you even look at the RULE page that someone suggested to you? That is > exactly what RULE does: allow you to install a Red Hat Linux system into > older hardware, or any hardware with less memory (down to 6MB RAM in some > ca

High CPU usage for simple window tasks

2003-10-04 Thread Harold Martin
Hello, My CPU usage goes to 100% whenever I do simple window tasks like resizing, opening new windows, opening menus, etc (for any application). It's really driving me crazy how slow it is :( I doubt it's due to my hardware, my CPU/memory/video card is an Athlon 2600/1GB/Radeon 7500, respectively.

Re: strange files

2003-10-04 Thread Martin Mewes
Howdy, Am Sam, den 04.10.2003 schrieb Sasa Stupar um 19:05: > I have noticed lately that I have some files with name core.x where > is a different number at each file. They are all 2 megs and they > are all in the / directory. Running RH8. > Any idea? Seems to me, that you have some c

Re: Minimal install RH8?

2003-10-04 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz
At 11:29 10/4/2003, you wrote: L. K. Pierce wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:17, R Sánchez wrote: Wasn't there some type of distro proyect that was precisely a RedHat adaptation for minimal systems? Yes, it's called RULE. http://www.rule-project.org Yes, that's nice but I would like that guys fro

Re: strange files

2003-10-04 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz
At 11:05 10/4/2003, you wrote: I have noticed lately that I have some files with name core.x where is a different number at each file. They are all 2 megs and they are all in the / directory. Running RH8. Any idea? One of your programs is dying and the core. files are where it dumps

Setting delay on WLAN-interface in RH9 during boot

2003-10-04 Thread christian jacobsen
Hi. I'm fortunate that I've just bought a laptop, and I've installed Redhat 9. Installation and use is mostly problemless, it's smooth and elegant. Except for one little feature. I've got two network interfaces, eth0 which is a standard ethernet card, and eth1 which is a WLAN card, loaded by o

Re: 8139too.o: init module: No such device

2003-10-04 Thread Tom
I have had numerous issues with the 8139too and Linux machines. I know others have them working just fine, but then are a constant headache for me. So I switched to INTEL or 3COM nic cards and don't have any issues there. Tom - Original Message - From: "regis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <

Shared user questions.....

2003-10-04 Thread bruce
Hi... Not sure where to turn for now, so we figured we'd ask the list... So.. a couple of basic issues/questions... If I set up a basic linux box, assume it's a 1GHz, 1GMem, 80GHD, how difficult is it to configure the box, so a given user can only access the files in his section of the hard drive

Backup not working

2003-10-04 Thread Thomas Smith
I'm trying to get a Seagate IDE tape drive working under RH 7.2. The drive is detected by the kernel as: hdd: Seagate STT2A, ATAPI TAPE drive The problem is that I can't seem to find any information for setting up the tape drive or using it for backups. Can anyone direct me to docs for con

Re: 8139too.o: init module: No such device

2003-10-04 Thread regis
Thanks for the response Raymond, I considered that, but the network card works fine when I boot the machine to Windows. That leads me to another thought. The last time in Windows I did an "upgrade" of the Yahoo Messenger. Is it possible that the "upgrade" hosed the network card so that it cause

Re: Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread Paula Fernandes
On Sáb, 2003-10-04 at 17:03, Klaus Zahradnik wrote: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 04:44:38PM +0100, Paula Fernandes wrote: > > > > Hi list, > > > > > > I need to mount a disk with a windows system to recover some files from > > the disk. I plug it into the secondary IDE has slave. > > > > I have cr

Re: Minimal install RH8?

2003-10-04 Thread Sasa Stupar
L. K. Pierce wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:17, R Sánchez wrote: Wasn't there some type of distro proyect that was precisely a RedHat adaptation for minimal systems? Yes, it's called RULE. http://www.rule-project.org Yes, that's nice but I would like that guys from Redhat make a minimal insta

Re: Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread Klaus Zahradnik
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 04:44:38PM +0100, Paula Fernandes wrote: > > Hi list, > > > I need to mount a disk with a windows system to recover some files from > the disk. I plug it into the secondary IDE has slave. > > I have created a new directory this way: > > mkdir /mnt/alf > > Then I try to

strange files

2003-10-04 Thread Sasa Stupar
Hi! I have noticed lately that I have some files with name core.x where is a different number at each file. They are all 2 megs and they are all in the / directory. Running RH8. Any idea? Sasa -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mail

RE: Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 00:42, Paula Fernandes wrote: > Nop, I never try it before. Can you give some clues? Does kernel.org > have everything I need even for this specific situation? Yes Since you are using Red Hat why not go to the most obvious place? http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux

Re: Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread Paula Fernandes
Ok, I am going to try. Thanks On Sáb, 2003-10-04 at 17:49, Jeff Wimmer wrote: > Depending on what you have installed on your machine, you should have > everything you need to recompile your kernel. There are numerous HOW-TO's > on how to recompile your kernel. As Jason said, kernel.org has the

Re: Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread Jeff Wimmer
Depending on what you have installed on your machine, you should have everything you need to recompile your kernel. There are numerous HOW-TO's on how to recompile your kernel. As Jason said, kernel.org has the info, your machine should have all the software, since you're not updating to a newer

RE: Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread Paula Fernandes
Nop, I never try it before. Can you give some clues? Does kernel.org have everything I need even for this specific situation? On Sáb, 2003-10-04 at 17:31, Jason Staudenmayer wrote: > Not really, have you ever rebuilt a kernel before? There are plenty of > how-to's on kernel.org > You need the ker

Re: 8139too.o: init module: No such device

2003-10-04 Thread Raymond Fung
Regis, Looks like your network card was dead. Try swapping in a spare and you can tell. Regards, Raymond Fung. On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 04:32, regis wrote: > I've had a working desktop installation of Redhat 7.1 for about 2 > years. No big problems. Yesterday it failed to boot giving the > follow

Re: Newbie! How to set alias with Apache configuration GUI

2003-10-04 Thread Klaus Zahradnik
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:20:02PM +0100, Rui Miguel Cruz wrote: > Hi! [...snip...] > I'm using Apache as web server, and i don't know how to implement a > directory alias in the Apache (like a virtual directory in the Win IIS). > Suppose my web server has the following base name: "/www.my_server.c

RE: Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread Jason Staudenmayer
Not really, have you ever rebuilt a kernel before? There are plenty of how-to's on kernel.org You need the kernel source installed along with the headers and some dev libs and a compiler. -Original Message- From: Paula Fernandes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 1

RE: Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread Paula Fernandes
Yes, with ntfs I get this: fs type ntfs not supported by kernel. I suppose that task (enable NTFS in the kernel) is quite difficult, is it? On Sáb, 2003-10-04 at 17:14, Jason Staudenmayer wrote: > You have to enable NTFS in the kernel I don't think it come turned on by > default. Also you will

Re: Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread Jeff Wimmer
Then you can't use the "vfat" filesystem type I earlier suggested. You have to use ntfs in it's place. JEFFREY WIMMER - Original Message - From: "Paula Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 11:15 AM Subject: RE: Mount new disk... >

RE: Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread Jason Staudenmayer
You have to enable NTFS in the kernel I don't think it come turned on by default. Also you will only be able to read from it. Try "mount -t ntfs /dev/hdd1 /mnt/alf" if it bitches about the filesystem or module then you'll have to recompile your kernel. -Original Message- From: Paula Fernan

RE: Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread Paula Fernandes
The drive is set to slave on the second IDE. There are 2 partitions in that disk. The first one is NTFS, and the second is FAT. The important one (with the data) is the first one (NTFS). On Sáb, 2003-10-04 at 17:01, Jason Staudenmayer wrote: > Are you sure it detected it as hdd and not hdc. If t

RH9 mouse cursors

2003-10-04 Thread NiteOwl
Hello. Anyone knows how to get rid of those annoying color mouse cursors in RH9? I need the old, plain, default, non-flashing, vanilla X11R6 cursors, please!!! ;'( Thanks! --NiteOwl -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redha

RE: Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread Jason Staudenmayer
Are you sure it detected it as hdd and not hdc. If the drive is set to master it will be hdc. Is the something else on the second IDE channel? How many partitions are on the drive your looking to mount? -Original Message- From: Paula Fernandes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, Oct

Re: Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread Paula Fernandes
I get the same answer. I am using RedHat 9.0 On Sáb, 2003-10-04 at 16:54, Jeff Wimmer wrote: > I believe you need to do the following, although you didn't say which > version of redhat you're running: > > mount -t vfat /dev/hdd /mnt/alf > > > JEFFREY WIMMER > - Original Message - > F

Re: Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread Jeff Wimmer
I believe you need to do the following, although you didn't say which version of redhat you're running: mount -t vfat /dev/hdd /mnt/alf JEFFREY WIMMER - Original Message - From: "Paula Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 10:44 AM Subje

Mount new disk...

2003-10-04 Thread Paula Fernandes
Hi list, I need to mount a disk with a windows system to recover some files from the disk. I plug it into the secondary IDE has slave. I have created a new directory this way: mkdir /mnt/alf Then I try to mount the disk this way: mount /dev/hdd /mnt/alf And I get this answer: /dev/hdd is no

RE: Why I can`t do telnet or ftp in local? But i can loggin with ssh

2003-10-04 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz
At 10:33 10/2/2003, you wrote: You'll have to edit the xinetd script file for it. /etc/xinetd.d/telnet Easier to type (as root): "chkconfig telnet on" -- Rodolfo J. Paiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redha

hangs in evolution, galeon, gthumb

2003-10-04 Thread gregory mott
hello redhatters, seems recently i'm experiencing frequent hangs in evolution, galeon, and gthumb (under rh9/kde). i'm suspicious it's something they all use, like maybe gconf? i always launch evolution first, so that it launches gconf2 before anything else launches gconf1, this used to keep thi

Re: Using RJ45 crimp tool

2003-10-04 Thread Jeff Wimmer
That is exactly correct. You wire one end to the 568B standard and the other end to the 568A standard.easy way to remember how a Crossover is wired. You ONLY do this to connect 2 computers together (2 Ethernet devices) without a hub, or to wired 2 hubs together if the hubs don't have a crosso

RE: Using RJ45 crimp tool

2003-10-04 Thread Keith & Patty Birchfield
Can you clarify on the X-Over Wiring Order? Would It Be Like This : > 1 White-orange-> White-green > 2 Orange -> Green > 3 White-green -> White-orange > 4 Blue -> Blue > 5 White-blue -> White-blue > 6 Green-> Orange > 7 White-brown -> W

Re: SpeedStream 5200 ADSL Modem

2003-10-04 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:53:57PM -0500, Bob wrote: > Hal, > > The 5200 supports Ethernet and USB. > > My DSL provider uses PPPoA. Does the modem do all of the PPPoA > authentication with the provider or do I need to use PPoE over PPPoA to > authenticate from the Linux box? I doubt that would w

Re: kppproblem

2003-10-04 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 03:37, gamalt tant wrote: > was try to connect to the internet > redhat8. the modem dialed the number then i get error > messages > terminal is: Did you check to make sure you can SEE the modem? What kind of modem do you have? Do you have the right drivers? Just a bit more

non local user with same domain- sendmail

2003-10-04 Thread Nilesh Vaghela
Hi, My sendmail server working fine accept one. domain = mycomopany.com nonlocaluser = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any local user sending mail to this perticuler user it gives message unknown user. As user is not a local. xyz user use his account with some different places. I tried to use LUSER_RELAY,`m

Re: where to put user xset commands?

2003-10-04 Thread Anthony E. Greene
On 03-Oct-2003/13:10 -0300, Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Anthony E. Greene wrote: >> Add the commands to ~/.bash_profile within an if loop that checks to see >> if you're running X: >> >> if [ -n "$DISPLAY" ] ; then >> xset whatever >> fi > > Thanks, that wil