Re: [R] Probit function

2009-08-31 Thread Noah Silverman
It is my understanding that they ARE using a binary model. In fact, they even discuss "exploding" the model to count second and third place finishers as "winners". Otherwise, how can one calculate the probability of the positive class (winner)? If I'm mistaken and they are in fact predicting

Re: [R] Probit function

2009-08-31 Thread Achim Zeileis
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Noah Silverman wrote: Um. I did my research. Have been for years. I assume you're referring to Boltman and Chapmanm "A multinomial logit model for handicapping horse races" included in "Efficiency of racetrack betting markets". Page 155 references what they call a "

Re: [R] Probit function

2009-08-31 Thread Noah Silverman
Um. I did my research. Have been for years. I assume you're referring to Boltman and Chapmanm "A multinomial logit model for handicapping horse races" included in "Efficiency of racetrack betting markets". Page 155 references what they call a "multinomial model". From equation 14 in th

Re: [R] Probit function

2009-08-31 Thread Achim Zeileis
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Noah Silverman wrote: Thanks Achim, I discovered the Journal article just after posting this question. It did help explain more. My original inspiration for looking at this package came from a seminar "summary" given in 2002. Unfortunately , I can not find any actual

Re: [R] Probit function

2009-08-31 Thread Achim Zeileis
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Noah Silverman wrote: I get that. Still trying to figure out what the "multi" nominal labels they used were. That's why I passed on the reference to the seminar summary. So that I could do the research for you? Come on...the usual strategy applies: Look at the reference

Re: [R] Probit function

2009-08-31 Thread Noah Silverman
I get that. Still trying to figure out what the "multi" nominal labels they used were. That's why I passed on the reference to the seminar summary. On 8/31/09 5:40 PM, Achim Zeileis wrote: > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Noah Silverman wrote: > >> Thanks Achim, >> >> I discovered the Journal article ju

Re: [R] Probit function

2009-08-31 Thread Noah Silverman
Thanks Achim, I discovered the Journal article just after posting this question. It did help explain more. My original inspiration for looking at this package came from a seminar "summary" given in 2002. Unfortunately , I can not find any actual published paper or lecture notes that explain

Re: [R] Probit function

2009-08-31 Thread Achim Zeileis
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Noah Silverman wrote: Hello, I want to start testing using the MNP probit function in stead of the lrm function in my current experiment. I have one dependant label and two independent varaibles. The lrm is simple model <- lrm(label ~ val1 + val2) I tried the same thi

[R] Probit function

2009-08-31 Thread Noah Silverman
Hello, I want to start testing using the MNP probit function in stead of the lrm function in my current experiment. I have one dependant label and two independent varaibles. The lrm is simple model <- lrm(label ~ val1 + val2) I tried the same thing with the mnp function and got an error tha