Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font - multiple y-axes

2007-10-01 Thread hadley wickham
12:13:46 -0500 > From: "hadley wickham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font > To: "Frank E Harrell Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: R-help <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> &g

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font - multiple y-axes

2007-10-01 Thread Monica Pisica
Well, I agree that plots with multiple y-axes can be very confusing but i am not sure that always they are also misleading One time i was asked to make a 2 y-axes plot, one y axes was for elevation (heights in meters) and one for rugosity (values between 1 and 2 - unitless). The ide

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font [double-Y-axis graphs]

2007-09-30 Thread hadley wickham
> Thanks for trying this, Hadley, because the comparison > is instructive in terms of the difference between the > communication goals of analysis and presentation graphs. Yes, and I think it's a difference that not enough people are familiar with. > Actually, one should regard income as the inde

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-29 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
jiho wrote: > On 2007-September-28 , at 18:25 , Frank E Harrell Jr wrote: >> jiho wrote: >>> On 2007-September-28 , at 16:57 , Frank E Harrell Jr wrote: jiho wrote: > On 2007-September-28 , at 15:18 , Paul Smith wrote: >> On 9/28/07, Prof Brian Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font [double-Y-axis graphs]

2007-09-29 Thread Michael Friendly
hadley wickham wrote: > On 9/29/07, hadley wickham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 9/29/07, Michael Friendly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> hadley wickham wrote: I was interested to see that you have code for drawing scatterplots with multiple y-axes. As far as I know the only legitima

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-29 Thread jiho
On 2007-September-28 , at 18:25 , Frank E Harrell Jr wrote: > jiho wrote: >> On 2007-September-28 , at 16:57 , Frank E Harrell Jr wrote: >>> jiho wrote: On 2007-September-28 , at 15:18 , Paul Smith wrote: > On 9/28/07, Prof Brian Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I know how to e

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-29 Thread hadley wickham
On 9/29/07, hadley wickham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/29/07, Michael Friendly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > hadley wickham wrote: > > >> > > > I was interested to see that you have code for drawing scatterplots > > > with multiple y-axes. As far as I know the only legitimate use for a

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-29 Thread hadley wickham
On 9/29/07, Michael Friendly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hadley wickham wrote: > >> > > I was interested to see that you have code for drawing scatterplots > > with multiple y-axes. As far as I know the only legitimate use for a > > double-axis plot is to confuse or mislead the reader (and this

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-29 Thread Michael Friendly
hadley wickham wrote: >> > I was interested to see that you have code for drawing scatterplots > with multiple y-axes. As far as I know the only legitimate use for a > double-axis plot is to confuse or mislead the reader (and this is not > a very ethical use case). Perhaps you have a counter-ex

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-28 Thread Daniel Lakeland
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 12:13:46PM -0500, hadley wickham wrote: > > Yes there is harm. But to make bold lines, easy to read titles is fine. > > See the spar function in > > http://biostat.mc.vanderbilt.edu/SgraphicsHints for a starter. Also see > > the setps, ps.slide, and setpdf functions in t

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-28 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
hadley wickham wrote: >> Yes there is harm. But to make bold lines, easy to read titles is fine. >> See the spar function in >> http://biostat.mc.vanderbilt.edu/SgraphicsHints for a starter. Also see >> the setps, ps.slide, and setpdf functions in the Hmisc package. > > I was interested to see

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-28 Thread Austin, Matt
ch is not my intent. --Matt Austin Statistician, Amgen Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hadley wickham Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:14 AM To: Frank E Harrell Jr Cc: R-help Subject: Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-28 Thread Henrik Bengtsson
On 9/28/07, hadley wickham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes there is harm. But to make bold lines, easy to read titles is fine. > > See the spar function in > > http://biostat.mc.vanderbilt.edu/SgraphicsHints for a starter. Also see > > the setps, ps.slide, and setpdf functions in the Hmisc p

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-28 Thread hadley wickham
> Yes there is harm. But to make bold lines, easy to read titles is fine. > See the spar function in > http://biostat.mc.vanderbilt.edu/SgraphicsHints for a starter. Also see > the setps, ps.slide, and setpdf functions in the Hmisc package. I was interested to see that you have code for drawin

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-28 Thread Paul Smith
On 9/28/07, Frank E Harrell Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I know how to export graphics as pdf files and then how to include > >> them in LaTeX documents. However, I do not know how to do in > >> order to > >> have the text of the graphics written with the font selected for the

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-28 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
jiho wrote: > > On 2007-September-28 , at 16:57 , Frank E Harrell Jr wrote: >> jiho wrote: >>> On 2007-September-28 , at 15:18 , Paul Smith wrote: On 9/28/07, Prof Brian Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I know how to export graphics as pdf files and then how to include >> them i

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-28 Thread jiho
On 2007-September-28 , at 16:57 , Frank E Harrell Jr wrote: > jiho wrote: >> On 2007-September-28 , at 15:18 , Paul Smith wrote: >>> On 9/28/07, Prof Brian Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know how to export graphics as pdf files and then how to include > them in LaTeX documents. Ho

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-28 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
jiho wrote: > On 2007-September-28 , at 15:18 , Paul Smith wrote: >> On 9/28/07, Prof Brian Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know how to export graphics as pdf files and then how to include them in LaTeX documents. However, I do not know how to do in order to have the text

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-28 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
Paul Smith wrote: > On 9/28/07, Prof Brian Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I know how to export graphics as pdf files and then how to include >>> them in LaTeX documents. However, I do not know how to do in order to >>> have the text of the graphics written with the font selected for the >>>

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-28 Thread jiho
On 2007-September-28 , at 15:18 , Paul Smith wrote: > On 9/28/07, Prof Brian Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I know how to export graphics as pdf files and then how to include >>> them in LaTeX documents. However, I do not know how to do in >>> order to >>> have the text of the graphics w

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-28 Thread Paul Smith
On 9/28/07, Prof Brian Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know how to export graphics as pdf files and then how to include > > them in LaTeX documents. However, I do not know how to do in order to > > have the text of the graphics written with the font selected for the > > LaTeX document. Is t

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-28 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All, > > I know how to export graphics as pdf files and then how to include > them in LaTeX documents. However, I do not know how to do in order to > have the text of the graphics written with the font selected for the > LaTeX document. Is that possibl

Re: [R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-28 Thread Dietrich Trenkler
Paul Smith schrieb: > Dear All, > > I know how to export graphics as pdf files and then how to include > them in LaTeX documents. However, I do not know how to do in order to > have the text of the graphics written with the font selected for the > LaTeX document. Is that possible? > > Thanks in adv

[R] Graphics and LaTeX documents with the same font

2007-09-28 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, I know how to export graphics as pdf files and then how to include them in LaTeX documents. However, I do not know how to do in order to have the text of the graphics written with the font selected for the LaTeX document. Is that possible? Thanks in advance, Paul _