Re: [Rd] [External] Re: Update on rtools4 and ucrt support

2021-08-23 Thread Gabriel Becker
Hi all, I will preface this with the fact that I don't do work on windows and the following is based on remembered conversations/talks/etc from a while ago so may be either incorrect or out of date, but I recall one of the major things Jeroen was targeting was use of/integration with a meaningful

Re: [Rd] [External] Re: Update on rtools4 and ucrt support

2021-08-23 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
As I type this, we are eight messages into this thread -- but I am not sure it has been made clear what the actual contentious issues are. There appear to be two toolchains, and they appear to be interoperate (though Duncan stated he had issues with an (arguably demanding) package). Now, I have

Re: [Rd] [External] Re: Update on rtools4 and ucrt support

2021-08-23 Thread Simon Urbanek
Avi, thanks. Yes, the whole point of the developer blog posts by R-core are for uses to provide feedback, so that's great - it's odd that it required a somewhat orthogonal post to start the discussion several months later, but I'm glad we got here. Note that the point of the switch is to iro

Re: [Rd] [External] Re: Update on rtools4 and ucrt support

2021-08-23 Thread Tomas Kalibera
On 8/24/21 12:03 AM, Avraham Adler wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 12:47 AM Simon Urbanek wrote: Avi, please see the announcement: https://developer.r-project.org/Blog/public/2021/03/12/windows/utf-8-toolchain-and-cran-package-checks/index.html the documentation is in https://svn.r-proj

Re: [Rd] [External] Re: Update on rtools4 and ucrt support

2021-08-23 Thread Avraham Adler
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 12:47 AM Simon Urbanek wrote: > Avi, > > please see the announcement: > > > https://developer.r-project.org/Blog/public/2021/03/12/windows/utf-8-toolchain-and-cran-package-checks/index.html > > the documentation is in > > > https://svn.r-project.org/R-dev-web/trunk/Windows

Re: [Rd] [External] Re: Update on rtools4 and ucrt support

2021-08-23 Thread Simon Urbanek
Avi, please see the announcement: https://developer.r-project.org/Blog/public/2021/03/12/windows/utf-8-toolchain-and-cran-package-checks/index.html the documentation is in https

Re: [Rd] [External] Re: Update on rtools4 and ucrt support

2021-08-23 Thread Avraham Adler
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:09 PM wrote: > On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > > > On 23/08/2021 8:15 a.m., jan Vitek via R-devel wrote: > >> Hi Jeroen, > >> > >> I mostly lurk on this list, but I was struck by your combative tone. > >> > >> To pick on two random bits: > >> > >>> … a 6gb

Re: [Rd] [External] Re: Update on rtools4 and ucrt support

2021-08-23 Thread luke-tierney
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, Duncan Murdoch wrote: On 23/08/2021 8:15 a.m., jan Vitek via R-devel wrote: Hi Jeroen, I mostly lurk on this list, but I was struck by your combative tone. To pick on two random bits: … a 6gb tarball with manually built things on his personal machine… … a black-box s