Re: [Rd] Problem with accessibility in R 4.2.0 and 4.2.1.

2022-09-22 Thread Tomas Kalibera
On 9/22/22 23:13, Jonathan Godfrey wrote: Hello all, I can confirm Andrew's assessment of the situation for screen reader users (both JAWS and NVDA) for R GUI version 4.2.1; I don't intend to go back and verify how/when the problem first arose though. The situation is not new, or at least t

Re: [Rd] Problem with accessibility in R 4.2.0 and 4.2.1.

2022-09-22 Thread Andrew Hart via R-devel
On 22/09/2022 16:42, Toby Hocking wrote: Another option is to use https://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/ (version of emacs editor/ide which can speak letters/words/lines -- has a blind maintainer) with https://ess.r-project.org/

Re: [Rd] Problem with accessibility in R 4.2.0 and 4.2.1.

2022-09-22 Thread Tomas Kalibera
On 9/22/22 18:24, peter dalgaard wrote: Tomas Kalibera has related that he has some scars from fighting with some unexpected interactions between UTF-8 and the GraphApp library that is used for RGui and I think he said that screen readers were involved. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a le

Re: [Rd] Problem with accessibility in R 4.2.0 and 4.2.1.

2022-09-22 Thread Toby Hocking
Another option is to use https://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/ (version of emacs editor/ide which can speak letters/words/lines -- has a blind maintainer) with https://ess.r-project.org/ (interface for editing and running R code from within emacs) On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 9:42 AM Duncan Murdoch wrote

Re: [Rd] Problem with accessibility in R 4.2.0 and 4.2.1.

2022-09-22 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 22/09/2022 9:48 a.m., Andrew Hart via R-devel wrote: Hi. I'm having an issue with R 4.2.1 on Windows but I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask about it. If it's not, I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction. I'm blind and have been using R for about 11 years now. The ba

Re: [Rd] Problem with accessibility in R 4.2.0 and 4.2.1.

2022-09-22 Thread peter dalgaard
Tomas Kalibera has related that he has some scars from fighting with some unexpected interactions between UTF-8 and the GraphApp library that is used for RGui and I think he said that screen readers were involved. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a leftover issue. (This is obviously a kind of

Re: [Rd] Problem with accessibility in R 4.2.0 and 4.2.1.

2022-09-22 Thread Ben Bolker
There was a long apparently related thread back in May: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-devel/2022-May/081708.html but that problem was supposedly patched in 4.2.1 ... On 2022-09-22 9:48 a.m., Andrew Hart via R-devel wrote: Hi. I'm having an issue with R 4.2.1 on Windows but I'm not sure if

[Rd] Problem with accessibility in R 4.2.0 and 4.2.1.

2022-09-22 Thread Andrew Hart via R-devel
Hi. I'm having an issue with R 4.2.1 on Windows but I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask about it. If it's not, I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction. I'm blind and have been using R for about 11 years now. The base build available on CRAN is quite accessible and wor