Another option is to use https://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/ (version of emacs editor/ide which can speak letters/words/lines -- has a blind maintainer) with https://ess.r-project.org/ (interface for editing and running R code from within emacs)
On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 9:42 AM Duncan Murdoch <[email protected]> wrote: > On 22/09/2022 9:48 a.m., Andrew Hart via R-devel wrote: > > Hi. I'm having an issue with R 4.2.1 on Windows but I'm not sure if this > > is the right place to ask about it. If it's not, I'm hoping someone can > > point me in the right direction. > > > > I'm blind and have been using R for about 11 years now. The base build > > available on CRAN is quite accessible and works pretty well with > > screen-reading software such as JAWS for Windows and NVDA. R-studio is > > not accessible which appears to have something to do with the version of > > QT it uses, but that's not relevant as I don't use it. > > I believe RStudio is in the process of moving away from QT to Electron. > I don't know when the non-QT version will be released (if not > already), but you might want to investigate that if Rgui doesn't work out. > > Duncan Murdoch > > > > Recently I installed R 4.2.1 (I tend to upgrade two or three times a > > year and this time I was jumping from R 4.1.2 to 4.2.1). > > However, I've encountered a serious problem which makes the latest > > version more or less unusable for doing any kind of serious work. > > The issue is that the screen-reading software is unable to locate the R > > cursor and behaves as though the cursor is near the top left of the R > > application window. Practically, this means I can't tell what characters > > I'm passing over when cursoring left and right, nor can I hear what > > character is being deleted when the backspace is pressed. Most > > importantly, I can't tell where the insertion point is. This is a major > > regression in the ability to work with and edit the command line in the > > R console. There are ways of actually viewing the command line but the > > way I work is frequently calling up a previous command and making a > > change so as to not have to type the whole command again. > > > > I Went and installed R 4.1.3 and R 4.2.0 in an attempt to find out > > exactly when things went awry and the issue first appeared in R 4.2.0. > > Looking through the release notes, the only things mentioned that seem > > likely to be relevant are the following: > > > > • R uses a new 64-bit Tcl/Tk bundle. The previous 32-bit/64-bit bundle > > had a different layout and can no longer be used. > > > > and > > > > • R uses UTF-8 as the native encoding on recent Windows systems (at > > least Windows 10 version 1903, Windows Server 2022 or Windows Server > > 1903). As a part > > of this change, R uses UCRT as the C runtime. UCRT should be installed > > manually on systems older than Windows 10 or Windows Server 2016 before > > installing > > R. > > > > I can't really see how changing to utf-8 as the native encoding would > > produce the behaviour I'm seeing, so I am guessing that the change in > > TCL/TK might be the culprit. > > > > I'm hoping that someone will be able to help shed some light on what's > > going on here. > > > > Thanks a lot, > > Andrew. > > > > ______________________________________________ > > [email protected] mailing list > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > > ______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
