Re: [Python-Dev] No response to posts

2010-07-31 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 19:48, Mark Lawrence wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been wading through outstanding issues today and have noticed that > there are several where there has been no response at all to the initial > post. Failing that, the only response has been Terry Reedy back in May > 2010, a

Re: [Python-Dev] No response to posts

2010-08-02 Thread Brian Curtin
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:39, Ralf Schmitt wrote: > Benjamin Peterson writes: > > > Please, let's stop messing with the tracker for everything. I think > > the current set up works reasonably well, and we should focus on the > > real problem: manpower > > Ignoring issues (probably even with some

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker status

2010-08-03 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:58, R. David Murray wrote: > On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 16:35:01 +0200, Antoine Pitrou > wrote: > > Apparently you are not the only one experiencing it. > > On #python-dev we get such notifications: > > > > alanwilter roundup * #9485/signal.signal/signal.alarm not > > working

Re: [Python-Dev] Windows

2010-08-03 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 20:08, Steve Holden wrote: > It's a little disappointing to discover that despite the relatively > large number of developers who have received MSDN licenses from > Microsoft, none if us have the time to make sure that the buildbots are > green for the 2.6.6 release. > > I

Re: [Python-Dev] Windows

2010-08-04 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 09:48, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Aug 03, 2010, at 09:08 PM, Steve Holden wrote: > > >It's a little disappointing to discover that despite the relatively > >large number of developers who have received MSDN licenses from > >Microsoft, none if us have the time to make sure tha

Re: [Python-Dev] Windows

2010-08-04 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:49, Tim Golden wrote: > On 04/08/2010 16:38, Steve Holden wrote: > >> On 8/4/2010 11:00 AM, Brian Curtin wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 09:48, Barry Warsaw>> <mailto:ba...@python.org>> wrote: >>> >&

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r83763 - in python/branches/py3k: Doc/library/signal.rst Lib/test/test_signal.py Misc/NEWS Modules/signalmodule.c

2010-08-06 Thread Brian Curtin
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 21:59, Ezio Melotti wrote: > Hi, > > On 06/08/2010 22.27, brian.curtin wrote: > >> Author: brian.curtin >> Date: Fri Aug 6 21:27:32 2010 >> New Revision: 83763 >> >> Log: >> Fix #9324: Add parameter validation to signal.signal on Windows in order >> to prevent crashes. >>

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r83763 - in python/branches/py3k: Doc/library/signal.rst Lib/test/test_signal.py Misc/NEWS Modules/signalmodule.c

2010-08-07 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 08:21, Hirokazu Yamamoto wrote: > On 2010/08/07 19:18, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > >> >> On 7 Aug, 2010, at 10:24, Hirokazu Yamamoto wrote: >> >> This is the idea just popped up. :-) >>> >>> #define SIG(name) if (sig_num != SIG##name) >>>SIG(ABRT) SIG(FPE) SIG(ILL) SIG(INT

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r84559 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/subprocess.py

2010-09-07 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 07:34, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:29 AM, brian.curtin > wrote: > > Author: brian.curtin > > Date: Mon Sep 6 18:29:29 2010 > > New Revision: 84559 > > > > Log: > > Fix #8956. ValueError message was only mentioning one signal. > > > > Rather than list ou

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r84564 - in python/branches/py3k/Lib: ntpath.py test/test_ntpath.py

2010-09-07 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 08:12, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 5:46 AM, brian.curtin > wrote: > > Modified: python/branches/py3k/Lib/ntpath.py > > > == > > --- python/branches/py3k/Lib/ntpath.py (original) >

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r84559 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/subprocess.py

2010-09-07 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 08:19, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Brian Curtin > wrote: > > Sure, seems reasonable to me. > > Does """raise ValueError("Unsupported signal: {}".format(sig))""" look > fine, > >

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r84988 - in python/branches/py3k: Lib/ntpath.py Misc/NEWS

2010-09-23 Thread Brian Curtin
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 17:30, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:38 AM, brian.curtin > wrote: > > Modified: python/branches/py3k/Lib/ntpath.py > > > == > > --- python/branches/py3k/Lib/ntpath.py (original)

Re: [Python-Dev] r84983 - in python/branches/py3k: Doc/library/os.rst Lib/test/test_os.py Misc/NEWS Modules/posixmodule.c

2010-09-24 Thread Brian Curtin
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 06:49, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:38:44 +0200 > "Amaury Forgeot d'Arc" wrote: > > 2010/9/24 Antoine Pitrou : > > > > > > The getlogin test fails on many Unix buildbots, either with errno 2 > > > (ENOENT) or 22 (EINVAL) or "OSError: unable to determine

Re: [Python-Dev] os.path.normcase rationale?

2010-09-26 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 06:36, Paul Moore wrote: > On 26 September 2010 09:01, Paul Moore wrote: > > On 25 September 2010 23:57, Greg Ewing > wrote: > >> Paul Moore wrote: > >> > >>> Windows has (I believe) user definable filesystems, too, but the OS > >>> has "get me the real filename" style c

Re: [Python-Dev] We should be using a tool for code reviews

2010-09-30 Thread Brian Curtin
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:31, Daniel Stutzbach < dan...@stutzbachenterprises.com> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:52 AM, wrote: > >> Of course, this is only true if the core developers *do* submit to the >> same rules. Is anyone proposing that current core committers have all their >> work r

Re: [Python-Dev] Stable build slaves authority

2010-10-13 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 17:42, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > > I'll give it a go; I have all the software needed to run the buildbot on > > it already besides VC Express, which I'm installing now. If ultimately > > it becomes too much of a pain, I'll go back to just providing the mac. > > But, I act

Re: [Python-Dev] Stable build slaves authority

2010-10-14 Thread Brian Curtin
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 01:00, Stephen Hansen > wrote: > On 10/13/10 10:28 PM, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > > -On [20101014 00:55], Brian Curtin (brian.cur...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> Correct. There are a few hacky ways to get Express to use the x64 SDK, > or s

Re: [Python-Dev] Continuing 2.x

2010-10-27 Thread Brian Curtin
2010/10/27 Kristján Valur Jónsson > > So, here is my suggestion: > > Let’s move the current ‘trunk’ into /branches/afterlife-27. Open it for > submissions from people such as myself that use 2.7 on a regular basis and > are willing to give it some extra love. Host it there without the usual > s

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r86000 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/test/test_fileio.py

2010-10-31 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 09:20, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:56 AM, brian.curtin > wrote: > > Author: brian.curtin > > Date: Sun Oct 31 01:56:45 2010 > > New Revision: 86000 > > > > Log: > > Fix ResourceWarning about unclosed file > > > > > > Modified: > > python/branches/py3

Re: [Python-Dev] rlcompleter -- auto-complete dictionary keys (+ tests)

2010-11-07 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 04:19, Valery Khamenya wrote: > Hi, > > A) I missed the auto-complete feature for dictionary keys a lot in python > console. This patch seems to do the job. > > B) There is no rlcompleter tests in trunk for some reason. So, I've taken > the 2.7.x test_rlcompleter.py and ext

Re: [Python-Dev] Stable buildbots

2010-11-15 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:48, David Bolen wrote: > Nick Coghlan writes: > > > Do we have any idea why the workaround to avoid the popup windows > > stopped working? (assuming it ever worked reliably - I thought it did, > > but that impression may have been incorrect) > > Oh, the pop-up handling

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r86540 - in python/branches/py3k: Parser/asdl_c.py Python/Python-ast.c

2010-11-19 Thread Brian Curtin
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 20:01, benjamin.peterson wrote: > Author: benjamin.peterson > Date: Sat Nov 20 03:01:45 2010 > New Revision: 86540 > > Log: > c89 declarations > > Modified: > python/branches/py3k/Parser/asdl_c.py > python/branches/py3k/Python/Python-ast.c > > Modified: python/branches

Re: [Python-Dev] Bug week-end on the 20th-21st?

2010-11-21 Thread Brian Curtin
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 15:04, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:32:42 -0400 > "R. David Murray" wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:22:24 -0200, Rodrigo Bernardo Pimentel < > r...@isnomore.net> wrote: > > >> Am 23.10.2010 19:08, schrieb Antoine Pitrou: > > >>> The first 3.2 beta is s

Re: [Python-Dev] Solaris family and 64 bits compiling

2010-11-22 Thread Brian Curtin
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 17:48, Jesus Cea wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I think this is probably trivial, but is there any foolproof way to > detect 64 bit builds in python, beside "sys.maxint"?. > import platform platform.architecture()

Re: [Python-Dev] http.server - reference to bug #427345

2010-11-23 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 22:28, Glenn Linderman > wrote: > Where might I find the bug #427345 that is referred to in a comment inside > http.server ? Here is a code excerpt: > > # throw away additional data [see bug #427345] > while select.select([self.rfile._sock], [], [

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r86817 - python/branches/py3k-stat-on-windows/Lib/test/test_shutil.py

2010-11-26 Thread Brian Curtin
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 12:44, hirokazu.yamamoto wrote: > Author: hirokazu.yamamoto > Date: Fri Nov 26 19:44:28 2010 > New Revision: 86817 > > Log: > Now can reproduce the error on AMD64 Windows Server 2008 > even where os.symlink is not supported. > > > Modified: > python/branches/py3k-stat-on

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r86817 - python/branches/py3k-stat-on-windows/Lib/test/test_shutil.py

2010-11-26 Thread Brian Curtin
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 13:45, Hirokazu Yamamoto wrote: > On 2010/11/27 3:52, Brian Curtin wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 12:44, hirokazu.yamamoto< >> python-check...@python.org >> >>> wrote: >>> >> >> Author: hirokazu.yamamoto &

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r86817 - python/branches/py3k-stat-on-windows/Lib/test/test_shutil.py

2010-11-26 Thread Brian Curtin
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 14:18, Hirokazu Yamamoto wrote: > On 2010/11/27 5:02, Brian Curtin wrote: > >> We briefly chatted about this on the os.link >> feature issue, but I never found a way around it. >> > > How about implementing os.path.samefile in > Modules/

Re: [Python-Dev] Porting Ideas

2010-12-01 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:51, Prashant Kumar wrote: > Hello everyone. My name is Prashant. I and my friend Zubin recently > ported 'Configobj'. It would be great if somebody can suggest about > any utilities or scripts that are being widely used and need to be > ported. http://onpython3yet.com/

Re: [Python-Dev] Porting Ideas

2010-12-01 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 13:17, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 13:02:00 -0600 > Brian Curtin wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:51, Prashant Kumar < > contactprashan...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone. My name is Prashant. I and m

Re: [Python-Dev] Suggestion for a new built-in - flatten

2006-09-22 Thread Brian Harring
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 12:05:19PM -0700, Bob Ippolito wrote: > On 9/22/06, Josiah Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Michael Foord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I have a suggestion for a new Python built in function: 'flatten'. > > > > This has been brought

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.3.6 for the unicode buffer overrun

2006-10-12 Thread Brian Warner
lace in one directory, but each build is performed from a copy of that checkout. Each offers different tradeoffs between disk usage, network usage, and which sorts of Makefile bugs they are likely to discover. cheers, -Brian (Buildbot author) ___ Python

Re: [Python-Dev] Promoting PCbuild8

2006-10-19 Thread Brian Warner
e same machine. That would prohibit the two Builders from running at the same time. (SlaveLocks wouldn't help here, because as you pointed out there is no way to tell the buildmaster that two slaves share a host). cheers, -Brian ___ P

Re: [Python-Dev] a feature i'd like to see in python #1: better iteration control

2006-12-03 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 06:24:17AM -0600, Ben Wing wrote: > many times writing somewhat complex loops over lists i've found the need > to sometimes delete an item from the list. currently there's no easy > way to do so; basically, you have to write something like > > i = 0 > while i < len(list):

Re: [Python-Dev] a feature i'd like to see in python #1: better iteration control

2006-12-03 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 08:35:58PM -0600, Ben Wing wrote: > but i still don't see why supporting iter.delete() is so wrong. clearly > it doesn't need to work on files or other such things where it doesn't > make sense. > > before you diss this completely, note that java supports exactly the > s

Re: [Python-Dev] a feature i'd like to see in python #1: better iteration control

2006-12-04 Thread Brian Harring
On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 07:15:35PM +0100, "Martin v. L??wis" wrote: > Brian Harring schrieb: > > For dict; it actually *cannot* work. You can't remove keys from a > > dict as you're iterating over it (can change the val of a key, but not > > remove the

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] buildbot failure in amd64 gentoo 2.5

2007-01-23 Thread Brian Warner
I'd be happy to incorporate them into Buildbot. sigh, -Brian ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] dict(keys, values)

2007-02-01 Thread Brian Quinlan
e that the keyword variant is longer than the zip variant e.g. dict(zip(keys, values)) dict(keys=keys, values=values) and the relationship between the keys and values seems far less obvious to me in the keyword variant. Cheers, Brian ___ Pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] dict(keys, values)

2007-02-01 Thread Brian Quinlan
hall not kill". That was a rough week for everyone involved. OK, the non-zip variant saves you 5 characters i.e. dict(zip(keys, values)) vs. dict(keys, values) I still don't like it :-) Cheers, Brian ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-D

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 30XZ: Simplified Parsing

2007-05-02 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 01:53:01PM -0400, A.M. Kuchling wrote: > On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 04:42:09PM +0100, Michael Foord wrote: > > Implicit string concatenation is massively useful for creating long > > strings in a readable way though: > > This PEP doesn't seem very well-argued: "It's a common

Re: [Python-Dev] best practices stdlib: purging xrange

2007-05-07 Thread Brian Harring
ver said range (range). Don't much see the point in making stdlib more wasteful in runtime for an "informally deprecated" func that lots of folks in the real world still use. ~brian pgpgTz8LwpEji.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r87070 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/test/test_shutil.py

2010-12-04 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 20:04, hirokazu.yamamoto wrote: > Author: hirokazu.yamamoto > Date: Sun Dec 5 03:04:16 2010 > New Revision: 87070 > > Log: > Now can reproduce the error on AMD64 Windows Server 2008 > even where os.symlink is not supported. > > > Modified: > python/branches/py3k/Lib/test/

Re: [Python-Dev] futures API

2010-12-09 Thread Brian Quinlan
make some performance improvements so he might have a handle on its overhead. Cheers, Brian Thanks, Thomas ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.o

Re: [Python-Dev] futures API

2010-12-09 Thread Brian Quinlan
On Dec 9, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote: On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Brian Quinlan wrote: On Dec 9, 2010, at 4:26 AM, Thomas Nagy wrote: Hello, I am looking forward to replacing a piece of code (http://code.google.com/p/waf/source/browse/trunk/waflib/Runner.py#86 ) by the

Re: [Python-Dev] futures API

2010-12-10 Thread Brian Quinlan
Oops. I accidentally replied off-list: On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:36 AM, Thomas Nagy wrote: --- El jue, 9/12/10, Brian Quinlan escribió: On Dec 9, 2010, at 4:26 AM, Thomas Nagy wrote: I am looking forward to replacing a piece of code (http://code.google.com/p/waf/source/browse/trunk/waflib

Re: [Python-Dev] futures API

2010-12-10 Thread Brian Quinlan
On Dec 10, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Nagy wrote: --- El vie, 10/12/10, Brian Quinlan escribió: On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:36 AM, Thomas Nagy wrote: I have a process running for a long time, and which may use futures of different max_workers count. I think it is not too far-fetched to create a

Re: [Python-Dev] futures API

2010-12-10 Thread Brian Quinlan
On Dec 10, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Thomas Nagy wrote: --- El vie, 10/12/10, Thomas Nagy escribió: --- El vie, 10/12/10, Brian Quinlan escribió: On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:36 AM, Thomas Nagy wrote: I have a process running for a long time, and which may use futures of different max_workers count. I

Re: [Python-Dev] futures API

2010-12-11 Thread Brian Quinlan
On Dec 11, 2010, at 6:44 AM, Thomas Nagy wrote: --- El vie, 10/12/10, Brian Quinlan escribió: On Dec 10, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Nagy wrote: --- El vie, 10/12/10, Brian Quinlan escribió: On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:36 AM, Thomas Nagy wrote: I have a process running for a long time, and which

Re: [Python-Dev] futures API

2010-12-11 Thread Brian Quinlan
On Dec 11, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Brian Quinlan wrote: Is it still unclear why it is there? Maybe you could propose some additional documentation. Did you get my question the other day as to whether a weakref.WeakKeySet might be a better

Re: [Python-Dev] sqlite, DDL, and transactions

2010-12-20 Thread Brian Curtin
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:48, Scott Urban wrote: > Hi > > The python sqlite module automatically commits open transactions > when it encounters a DDL statement. This is unnecessary; DDL is > transaction in my testing (see attached). > > Attached patch addresses the issue. Patch is against 2.6.1

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue #6210: Exception Chaining missing method for suppressing context

2010-12-27 Thread Brian Curtin
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 13:37, Ethan Furman wrote: > I see the last comment was added on the 4th. > > Where should continued discussion take place -- bug-tracker, python-dev, > ... ? > > ~Ethan~ Preferably on the bug tracker as to keep any discussion attached to the issue. If the discussion bec

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue #10348: concurrent.futures doesn't work on BSD

2010-12-29 Thread Brian Quinlan
ests use 4 Call objects or more. Great detective work! This would suggest that ProcessPoolExecutors are useable on FreeBSD 7.2 so long as the user doesn't create more than two at once (which probably isn't a big deal for most apps). So skipping the test is probably the way t

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue #10348: concurrent.futures doesn't work on BSD

2010-12-29 Thread Brian Quinlan
sive tests while ensuring that I keep the buildbots green on all supported platforms. Thoughts? Cheers, Brian So if the minimal test case fails, I'd claim that the module doesn't work on FreeBSD, period. ISTM that Posix IPC is just not a feasible approach to do IPC synchronization

Re: [Python-Dev] Hello everyone

2011-01-05 Thread Brian Curtin
helpful for getting started, and to supplement David's suggestions. It was written for users like yourself to go from zero to successful contribution as quick as possible. Brian ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.or

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] devguide: Start a doc on running and writing unit tests.

2011-01-05 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 17:00, Terry Reedy wrote: > > +Running >> +--- >> > > Is there a way to skip a particular test, such as one that crashes the test > process? -x {list of tests to skip} ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http:

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] devguide: Start a doc on running and writing unit tests.

2011-01-05 Thread Brian Curtin
On Jan 5, 2011 4:45 PM, "Terry Reedy" wrote: > > >> +The shortest, simplest way of running the test suite is:: >> + >> +./python -m test > > > Not on Windows. > C:\Programs\Python32>./python -m test > '.' is not recognized as an internal or external command, > operable program or batch file. >

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2b2 fails test suite on (my) Windows XP

2011-01-05 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 17:47, Terry Reedy wrote: > To test Brett's test running instruction, I ran > python -m test # not ./Python! > in a Command Prompt window > --- > Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] > > == CPython 3.2b2 (r32b2:87398, Dec 19 2010, 22:51:00) > [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2b2 fails test suite on (my) Windows XP

2011-01-05 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 17:56, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 17:47, Terry Reedy wrote: > >> To test Brett's test running instruction, I ran >> python -m test # not ./Python! >> in a Command Prompt window >> --- >> Microsoft Windows XP

Re: [Python-Dev] API refactoring tracker field for Python4

2011-01-07 Thread Brian Curtin
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:20, anatoly techtonik wrote: > There are many API changes and proposals that were forgotten and > didn't get into Python 3, although they should be, because it was the > only chance to change things with backwards compatibility break. For > example http://bugs.python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] API refactoring tracker field for Python4

2011-01-07 Thread Brian Curtin
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:14, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Brian Curtin > wrote: > >> > >> There are many API changes and proposals that were forgotten and > >> didn't get into Python 3, although they should be, because it was

Re: [Python-Dev] API refactoring tracker field for Python4

2011-01-07 Thread Brian Curtin
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:14, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Brian Curtin > wrote: > >> > >> This mostly because of limitation of our tracker and desire of people > >> to extend it to get damn "stars", module split

Re: [Python-Dev] Where are Python 2.5.5 binaries for Windows?

2011-01-11 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 13:04, anatoly techtonik wrote: > I need Python 2.5.5 binaries to run Google AppEngine SDK 1.4.1 on > Windows, but can't find them on > http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.5.5/ > > Why are they removed? > -- > anatoly t. Nothing was removed. From that page: "This is

Re: [Python-Dev] Where are Python 2.5.5 binaries for Windows?

2011-01-11 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 13:56, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Brian Curtin > wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 13:04, anatoly techtonik > > wrote: > >> > >> I need Python 2.5.5 binaries to run Google AppEngine SDK 1.4.1 on

Re: [Python-Dev] Finally fix installer to add Python to %PATH% on Windows

2011-01-28 Thread Brian Curtin
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:12, anatoly techtonik wrote: > Hi, I'd like to > > You probably know that after installation on Windows system it is > possible to call Python from Explorer's Run dialog (Win-R). It is > because Python path is added to App Paths registry key and Windows > Explorer shell

Re: [Python-Dev] Finally fix installer to add Python to %PATH% on Windows

2011-01-28 Thread Brian Curtin
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 14:34, Christian Heimes wrote: > Am 28.01.2011 20:29, schrieb Raymond Hettinger: > > At the very least, we should add some prominent instructions for getting > the command line version up and running. > > /me pops out of Guido's time machine and says: "execute > Tools/scri

Re: [Python-Dev] MSI: Remove dependency from win32com.client module (issue4080047)

2011-01-31 Thread Brian Curtin
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 14:45, wrote: > There is no b.p.o issue as it's not a bug, but a tiny copy/paste patch > to clean up the code a bit while I am trying to understand how to add > Python to the PATH. > > I see no reason for b.p.o bureaucracy. Mercurial-style workflow [1] is > more beneficial

Re: [Python-Dev] Finally fix installer to add Python to %PATH% on Windows

2011-01-31 Thread Brian Curtin
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 15:13, anatoly techtonik wrote: > Ok. Here is the patch. I used Orca to reverse installer tables of > Mercurial MSI and inserted similar entry for Python. > > Also available for review at: http://codereview.appspot.com/4023055 > -- > anatoly t. That's the easy part. It do

Re: [Python-Dev] Finally fix installer to add Python to %PATH% on Windows

2011-01-31 Thread Brian Curtin
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 15:43, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Brian Curtin > wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 15:13, anatoly techtonik > > wrote: > >> > >> Ok. Here is the patch. I used Orca to reverse installer tables of >

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial style patch submission (Was: MSI: Remove dependency from win32com.client module (issue4080047))

2011-01-31 Thread Brian Curtin
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 15:50, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Antoine Pitrou > wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:45:45 + > > techto...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I see no reason for b.p.o bureaucracy. Mercurial-style workflow [1] is > >> more beneficial to development

Re: [Python-Dev] MSI: Remove dependency from win32com.client module (issue4080047)

2011-02-01 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 01:35, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:59 AM, Benjamin Peterson > wrote: > > I see no reason for b.p.o bureaucracy. > >>> > >>> It provides a place for discussion, and makes it easier to coordinate > >>> multiple efforts. > >> > >> Code revie

Re: [Python-Dev] MSI: Remove dependency from win32com.client module (issue4080047)

2011-02-01 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 09:51, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:58 AM, anatoly techtonik > wrote: > >> To me polluting tracker with the > >> issues that are neither bugs nor feature requests only makes bug > >> triaging p

[Python-Dev] curtin-win2008-amd64 build slave down for a while

2011-02-02 Thread Brian Curtin
I'm having some power issues due to a major snow storm so my build slave is turned off. Don't worry, everyone's favorite OS will be back to work within the next few days. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/li

Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Generate patches without code checkout (Was: devguide: Write a guide to committing a patch.)

2011-02-02 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 06:50, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 6:33 PM, anatoly techtonik > wrote: > >> Making and testing a patch from Python checkout requires compiling > >> Python, which is not possible for Windows use

Re: [Python-Dev] Finally fix installer to add Python to %PATH% on Windows

2011-02-06 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 04:14, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Chris Withers > wrote: > >> > >> I've helped quite a few "python newbies" on Windows who are also > >> surprised / frustrated on learning that "python" on the command line > >> doesn't work after installing

Re: [Python-Dev] Finally fix installer to add Python to %PATH% on Windows

2011-02-06 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 09:22, Chris Withers wrote: > On 06/02/2011 15:20, Brian Curtin wrote: > >> There are still outstanding considerations in the various issues on the >> tracker, so it would be best to address them before requesting >> integration. Example: What sho

Re: [Python-Dev] w9xpopen.exe is still in 3.2

2011-02-20 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 15:22, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:10 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" > wrote: > > Am 20.02.2011 07:43, schrieb anatoly techtonik: > >> Python definitely needs a development Roadmap to avoid things like > >> w9xpopen.exe slipping off radar from release to r

Re: [Python-Dev] Is Demo directory removed from python3.2 ?

2011-02-21 Thread Brian Curtin
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 21:02, wen heping wrote: > Hi, > > I found 2 changes in python-3.2 compared to previous python version: > i) Demo directory removed >From the "What's new in 3.2" document: The unmaintained Demo directory has been removed. Some demos were integrated into the documenta

Re: [Python-Dev] Official Roadmap (Re: Let's get PEP 380 into Python 3.3)

2011-03-03 Thread Brian Curtin
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 06:40, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Guido van Rossum > wrote: > > Now that the language moratorium is lifted, let's make sure to get PEP > > 380 implemented for Python 3.3. > > How about official RoadMap? There is no visibility into what's g

Re: [Python-Dev] Rietveld or Review Board use?

2011-03-04 Thread Brian Curtin
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:05, wrote: > Is Rietveld or Review Board being used within the Python core development > community? I looked at the dev guide but didn't see anything obvious about > code reviews. I don't see how to search the Rietveld instance at > codereview.appspot.com looking just

Re: [Python-Dev] Support the /usr/bin/python2 symlink upstream

2011-03-04 Thread Brian Curtin
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 16:04, Glenn Linderman wrote: > > Sadly, there seems to be strong resistance to the idea of putting the > Python install directory on the Windows path, of course, without some > additional solutions (python2.exe, python3.exe, etc.), that doesn't help the > multi-version inst

Re: [Python-Dev] [PEPs] Support the /usr/bin/python2 symlink upstream

2011-03-06 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 09:07, Michael Urman wrote: > I think Glenn Linderman hit the use cases on the head; I'm unclear why > he was against the overhead of a helper executable. Interpreter startup time is increasing with every version IIRC**, so adding another slowdown means we have to step ve

Re: [Python-Dev] CPython hg transition complete

2011-03-06 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:39, Georg Brandl wrote: > Also please redirect praise to Antoine Pitrou and Dirkjan Ochtman who did > most of the actual work. > > Georg > Many thanks to you three and anyone else who put in effort on this project. It's excellent that this got completed in time for PyCo

Re: [Python-Dev] [PEPs] Support the /usr/bin/python2 symlink upstream

2011-03-06 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:41, Michael Foord wrote: > I would like to see us create version specific (i.e. python32.exe / > python32w.exe) binaries (or links if we drop support for earlier versions of > Windows or some filesystems - I'm agnostic on that issue) *plus* a > python3.exe / python3w.exe

Re: [Python-Dev] Codereview on bugs.python.org ready for testing again

2011-03-07 Thread Brian Curtin
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 09:15, wrote: > >Martin> I ported the code review support on bugs.python.org to hg, and >Martin> reactivated it. Review "issues" are created automatically if the >Martin> attached file is recognized as a patch that applies cleanly. The >Martin> roundup issue

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon blogging?

2011-03-07 Thread Brian Curtin
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 15:45, wrote: > Anybody here (or elsewhere) with plans to blog at PyCon for those of us not > going? > > Thx, > > Skip I've been writing a lot lately for the PyCon blog so I might as well keep that up. I'll try to write something up for the language summit, and I imagine

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCObject_AsVoidPtr removed from python 3.2 - is this documented?

2011-03-07 Thread Brian Curtin
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 17:05, Greg Ewing wrote: > Many people haven't started using 3.x in earnest yet, and by the > time they do, several major releases will have already gone by. Sounds like motivation to me :) ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@

Re: [Python-Dev] public visibility of python-dev decisions "before it's too late" (was: PyCObject_AsVoidPtr removed from python 3.2 - is this documented?)

2011-03-11 Thread Brian Curtin
On Mar 11, 2011 4:52 PM, "Guido van Rossum" wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > On Mar 9, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Tim Lesher wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 01:15, Stefan Behnel wrote: > >>> Actually, why not put up a web page of "upcoming changes" somewhere,

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Fix #11509. Significantly increase test coverage for fileinput.

2011-03-15 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:44, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:29:59 +0100 > brian.curtin wrote: > > + > > +def test_gz_ext(self): > [...] > > + > > +def test_bz2_ext(self): > [...] > > + > > +def test_Gz_ext(self): > > +self.do_test_use_builtin_open("abcd.Gz",

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Fix #11509. Significantly increase test coverage for fileinput.

2011-03-15 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:28, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Brian Curtin > wrote: > > Agreed. I'll rename them to be more expressive. > > Don't forget NEWS and ACKS updates as well. Got the news update in 9448691fe084. Had him in acks f

[Python-Dev] New contributors at the PyCon sprint

2011-03-16 Thread Brian Curtin
Hi all, As I'm sure you're all aware, the PyCon sprints are going on right now and will run for two more days. As a result, you may have noticed an increased number of patches over the last few days -- many of these were from first-time contributors. The turnout for the CPython sprint has been hug

Re: [Python-Dev] Hg: inter-branch workflow

2011-03-17 Thread Brian Curtin
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 07:41, Jesus Cea wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 17/03/11 13:35, Jesus Cea wrote: > > Tonight I was thinking about doing a merge inside the branch, to solve > > the "+1 branch". Something like transforming: > > Another thing I was thinking a

Re: [Python-Dev] VM and Language summit info for those not at Pycon (and those that are!)

2011-03-18 Thread Brian Curtin
dlaziness.org/2011/03/python-vm-summit-somewhat-coherent.html > > http://www.boredomandlaziness.org/2011/03/python-language-summit-rough-notes.html > > http://www.boredomandlaziness.org/2011/03/python-language-summit-highlights.html > > I believe Brian Curtin will also be posting

Re: [Python-Dev] sprints and pushes

2011-03-23 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 16:27, Simon Cross wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Antoine Pitrou > wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:25:01 -0700 > > Ethan Furman wrote: > >> > >> I think the use-case has been lost. Think sprints and multiple push > >> races. No one is arguing that the smoke

Re: [Python-Dev] Dict access with double-dot (syntactic sugar)

2011-03-24 Thread Brian Curtin
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 06:40, Jameson Quinn wrote: > "class attrdict" is a perennial dead-end for intermediate pythonistas who > want to save 3 characters/5 keystrokes for item access. Other languages such > as javascript allow "somedict.foo" to mean the same as "somedict['foo']", so > why not py

Re: [Python-Dev] Dict access with double-dot (syntactic sugar)

2011-03-24 Thread Brian Curtin
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:51, Jameson Quinn wrote: > Consider: > > def fun1(argument): > print argument1 > > fun1(argument="spam") > > def fun2(**kw): > print kw["argument"] > > Why should I need quotes around "argument" in just one of those places? > What if I left them off, and there ha

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Core Mentorship program

2011-03-25 Thread Brian Curtin
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 08:26, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > One other thing I would hope to be able to do with the list is to try > to stay in touch with new contributors that participate in sprints. > > Cheers, > Nick. This was exactly my thought. We were there in person to get ~10 PyCon sprinters t

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue Tracker

2011-03-28 Thread Brian Curtin
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 15:05, Ethan Furman wrote: > Greetings! > > I'm not sure where the best place is to ask this question, so I'll start > here -- feel free to redirect me if necessary. > > I would like to have some software to keep track of bugs, to-do's, ideas, > etc., etc. -- you know, an

[Python-Dev] Supporting Visual Studio 2010

2011-04-04 Thread Brian Curtin
Would it be reasonable to begin supporting Visual Studio 2010 for Windows builds of 3.3? I now have a personal interest in this happening for some stuff at work, and there's been a lot of questions in the last few months about when we'll support it coming from python-list, #python-dev, and in perso

Re: [Python-Dev] Supporting Visual Studio 2010

2011-04-05 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 07:48, wrote: > On 09:55 am, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: > >> Am 05.04.2011 00:21, schrieb Antoine Pitrou: >> >>> On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 23:40:33 +0200 >>> "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >>> - users have expressed concerns that they constantly need to upgrade VS releases w

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbot status

2011-04-06 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 09:05, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > Hello, > > For the record, we have 9 stable buildbots, one of which is currently > offline: 3 Windows, 2 OS X, 3 Linux and 1 Solaris. > Paul Moore's XP buildbot is back in the stable stable. > (http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/all/waterfal

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