zaar/
In particular:
What do I need?
* Bazaar 1.0 or newer. As of this writing (04-Nov-2008) Bazaar 1.8
is the most recent release. As Bazaar is written in Python (yay!),
it is available for all major platforms, See the Bazaar home page
for information about versions for your pl
ike getfirst() would be worth while here?
But you must decide if what you want really does LRU -- does accessing
the oldest entry make it the most recent entry?
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for a single file should probably push back out to a full sync. This
would be trickier to accomplish if the using code had to suss out how
to get to the fp. Clearly I have plans for a ZipFile expansion, but
this could only conceivably hit 2.7, and 2.8 / 3.2 is a lot more likely.
--Scott
g for). In any case, even a charter of "unit tests to 50%
coverage" of Idle would be a huge improvement.
I've run after specific bugs in Idle, but don't really know the lay of
the land.
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Nick Coghlan wrote:
Collin Winter wrote:
That would be a bikeshed discussion of such
magnitude, you'd have to invent new colors to paint the thing.
Octarine. Definitely octarine :)
I'm not so sure of the color itself, but its name should definitely
rhyme with "orange.&
s, and tools to strip whitespace off the end of lines as
information-destroying.
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e, it's non-associative, which is a
much rarer and more surprising thing. We do
at least have
('1' + '2') + '3' == '1' + ('2' + '3')
But we don't have:
(1e40 + -1e40) + 1 == 1e40 + (-1e40 + 1)
Non-associativity is
massive number of zeroes, how about we replace
only the trailing zeroes with the e, so we wind up with:
1157920892373161954235709850086879078532699846656405640e+23
or 115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564.0e+24
or some such, rather than
1.157920892373162e+77
or 1.
Mark Dickinson wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Scott David Daniels
> wrote:
>> As a user of Idle, I would not like to see the change you seek of
>> having %f stay full-precision. When a number gets too long to print
>> on a single line, the wrap depends on
ark Dickinson wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Scott David Daniels wrote:
>...
>> I had also said (without explaining:
>>>> only the trailing zeroes with the e, so we wind up with:
>>>> 11579208923731619542357098500868
st_creation_time
Speaking as somebody who thought the c in ctime meant creation, I'm +1
on this proposal with Greg's modification.
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I tend to prefer zero-ish defaults, how about:
def peek(self, size=None, nonblocking=False)
We still don't have "at most one read" code, but something a bit like
data = obj.peek(size=desired, nonblocking=True)
if len(data) < desired:
data = obj.peek(size
only one of the four I checked; I suspect
the other three are similarly mislabeled.
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works:
$ python setup.py uninstall some_package
Then explicitly say so for us poor schlubs.
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On Jun 30, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote:
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Scott David
Daniels wrote:
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
[1] I'd actually like it if the PEP defined an uninstall command -
something like "
ber correctly, the default csv dialect is just the Excel dialect, so
this would be two different ways of saying the same things.
Right, but Guido's point is, decide which one is the is the definition
and stick to talking about it in that form.
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ere some page I overlooked? Is there a better forum
in which to ask this question?
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come back on the patch.
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Raymond Hettinger wrote:
[Scott David Daniels]
I find I have a need in randomized testing for a shorter version
of getstate, even if it _is_ slower to restore. [blah about big state]
Sounds like you could easily wrap the generator to get this.
It would slow you down but would give the
[x for x in res][0]
x, = res # I didn't think of this one before recently
Are all answers, but none of them I would consider *obvious*.
And from my SQL-hacking experience:
x = min(s)
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>> Ah. Well, I can assure you that it's not the oldest trick in the book,
>> and not everyone uses it.
> ...
> Can't this just be enabled for platforms where it's known to work and let
> Python as it currently is for the users of these legacy systems ?
Ah, but that
ote: the Os/X universal seems to include a Tix runtime for the
non-Intel processor, but not for the Intel processor. This
makes me think there is a build problem.
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> On 9/30/06, Scott David Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Christos Georgiou wrote:
>>> Does anyone know why this happens? I can't find any information pointing to
>>> this being deliberate.
>> Also note: the Os/X univ
fval)
{ ...
if (fval == 0.0 && raw_match(&fval, cached)) {
PY_INCREF(cached);
return cached;
}
...
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as incorrect, and have work-arounds. As these files now show
> up with "no extension", I rather expect that the work-around
> won't trigger, and the default behavior will be the correct one.
c) Given a filename, make an appropriately named associated file.
pyo_name =
quot;perfect" patch costs me more like
> between half an hour and an hour.
>
QOTW. I think this excerpt should show up in the
new developer area.
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re in the
logging in process, there should be an indication of how much your box
must be opened up before you can "log on," at least in the screen you
get to when you log on.
However, each time I went to enter such a note, I needed to "log on."
I just
deos (former My Videos)
> yay, next up posix support
I suspect that the whole thing was done to make sure that developers
of applications could:
A: cope with stupidly long path names.
V: cope with spaces in path names.
I bet they never intended to keep the huge names, just t
Jeffrey Yasskin wrote:
> The second returns the simplest rational within some distance. For
> instance, it'll prefer 22/7 over 333/106 if both are close enough. We
> might call it .simplest_within() for now. This seems useful for
> converting from float and displaying results to users, where we pre
Alessandro Guido wrote:
> Nick Coghlan wrote:
> Eric Smith wrote:
>> Because None means 'use the default value'. You probably want:
>> print('a', 'b', sep='', end='')
>
> I think this is a "not optimally designed" API
> because you have to read the documentation to understand why
Excuse me, I do
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I just noticed that the bz2lib version was updated to 1.0.5 in December
of 2007, for security reasons. I suspect it would be good to be sure
to ship this with 2.6 or 3.0.
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self.failure_exception("%(first)r %(op)r %(second): %(msg)"
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I would rather something more like:
def assert_compare_true(op, first, second, msg=None):
if op(first, second):
return
raise self.failure_exception(msg)
if ms
t,
I implemented my own versions of these asserts (Le, Lt, ...) a year or
so ago, and still find them so useful that I'll re-implement them where-
ever I am working without similar tests available.
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accidentally escalating warnings into errors, and it looked
to me like this would accidentally swallow errors getting
warning context and make them fail silently. The Idle issue
that I'm fiddling with is that it doesn't take the new
showwarning call format, and it looked like this shou
gs.formatwarning and
warnings.showwarning. If you get it wrong, a deprecation warning can
prevent a module like md5 from loading (for example).
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> Match the new warning protocol exactly:
> def showwarning(message, category, filename, lineno,
> file=None, line=None):
> ...
> If the line is not None, use it (which will happen if you pass it
>
held[number_to_hold]
...
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he keyword arg "delimited," rather than "delimiter."
On Windows, I'd like to see:
os.path.commonprefix(['a/b/c.d/e'f', r'a\b\c.d\eve'], delimited=True)
return either
'a/b/c.d'
or r'a\b\c.d'
Perhaps even ['a', 'b&#
ath.dirname(os.path.commonprefix([
os.path.normpath(p) for p in paths]))
give '/a', not '/a/b'.
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** Text overwrite **
20K modify one unit at a time 0.296 0.0721.320 4.09 18.26
400K modify 20 units at a time 5.690 1.360 22.500 4.18 16.54
400K modify 4096 units at a time 151.000 88.300 509.000 1.71 5.76
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d be an
the Ellipsis instance.
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It is computationally hard to do that (may have to chase chains of
**kwarg-passing functions), but even hard to document.
So, I'd avoid it.
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... The performance penalty is slime to nothing for the common case
Sorry, I love this typo.
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Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation 1984-2002. All rights reserved.
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Brett C. wrote:
A few things can be done to make sure that development goes smoothly when
experimenting with Python's bytecode. One is to delete all .py(c|o|w)
Don't you mean ".pyc or .pyo (remember such files in zips as well)"
.pyw is normal python source.
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PEP.
I can open a pseudo-file for STORED files in binary read mode, for
example, to allow reading zip-in-zip files without fully occupying
memory.
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Scott David Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm hoping to add BZIP2 compression to zipfile for 2.5. My primary
motivation is that Project Gutenberg seems to be starting to use BZIP2
compression for some of its zips. What other wish list things do
people aroun
Brett C. wrote:
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I'm hoping to add BZIP2 compression to zipfile for 2.5. My primary
motivation is that Project Gutenberg seems to be starting to use BZIP2
compression for some of its zips. What other wish list things do
people around here have for zipfile? I th
tents.)"
This means to me we can put these in Python's library, but it is
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warrants that the code is his/her own work and not encumbered by
any patent.
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Terry Reedy wrote:
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I believe our current policy is that the author warrants that the code
is his/her own work and not encumbered by any patent.
Without a qualifier such as 'To the best of my knowledge', the latter is an
impossibl
one-time-only
overhead you can afford to reduce the per-search-character cost.
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about 300 probes once the table is set (the underscores below):
not the xyznot the xyznot the xyz...
not ther_
not the__
not ther_
not the__
not ther_
...
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erhaps your final summary
could be a personal view of PyCon for those of us unable to get there.
If you make no more contribution to Python than you have so far, you
will have done us a great service.
Hip-hip-hooray-ly y'rs
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a twenty-two
page document with no real content. Really, the twenty two pages
included an introduction, conclusion, table of contents, appendix,
and index. It just didn't have anything but section headings. It
was a thrilling triumph of form over function; a real Suahuab
aesthetic, to coi
he data structures with:
converter('flour', 'bread')(BakingClass)
_But_ (at least for the app I was fiddling with) decorating at the top
of declaration helps show the purpose of the class.
Have a look at:
http://aspn.activesta
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#x27;f\x061.#INF') == 1.0
Should loads raise an exception?
Somehow, I thing 1.0 is not the best possible representation for +Inf.
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detect code if that is what is wanted.
I just want to know what the consensus is on the "should." If we cause
exceptions, should they be one encode or decode or both? If not, do we
replicate all NaNs, Infs of both signs, Indeterminates?
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"not all marshalled float text read");
+ return NULL;
+ }
return PyFloat_FromDouble(dx);
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to PEP
> 3000 instead.
Since PEP 313 has been rejected, the trailing L no longer introduces
ambiguity in the representation of roman(40) vs. roman(10L).
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Chermside, Michael wrote:
> ... I will say that if there were no legacy I'd prefer the tounicode()
> and tostring() (but shouldn't itbe 'tobytes()' instead?) names for Python 3.0.
Wouldn't 'tobytes' and 'totext' be better for 3.0 where text == un
stock profits, rather than a solid value proposition.
Trying to satisfy the profit-lust of angels has redirected more than one
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use for implementations that can give better guarantees, and I'd
like to be able to distinguish the two.
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ackage "py". Would
'std' do as well for the top level, or should we use "python"
for the python-coded versions?
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ke groupby() for this sort of
> thing, with the aforementioned caveats. Functional code seems a little
> clearer to me, although I realize that preference is not held
> universally.
However, sorted requires ordering. Try seq = [1, 1j, -1, -1j] * 5
Alex's tally works, but yours does no
ame ancestors as
CheeseShop, but is True simply because issubclass(SillyWalks, Sketch)
is True. More a document issue than anything, but to be considered.
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ot sure about your compiler, but if I remember the standard
correctly, the following code shouldn't complain:
PyObject_CallFunction((PyObject*) (void *) &PyRange_Type,
"lll", start, start+len*step, step)
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> Scott David Daniels wrote:
>> ... if I remember the standard
>> correctly, the following code shouldn't complain:
>>
>> PyObject_CallFunction((PyObject*) (void *) &PyRange_Type,
>> "lll"
the code based on old behavior (it might be
nice only when the jailer is around). So, reading your restrictions is
a capability I'd like to be able to control.
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illegal Viagra prescription into the country.
Well... a least we know his back is feeling better.
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Aahz wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2006, Scott David Daniels wrote:
>> .
> I'm hoping this was a typo of an e-mail address for sending, because
> this is not appropriate for python-dev.
This absolutely was a matter of clicking the wrong spot. I completely
agree it would be in
>
>> Maybe 'turtleplus' or something?
>
> When it goes into Python, it will be 'turtle'.
>
Perhaps in the meantime (if xturtle is not loved),
you could go with "turtle_" as in "like the standard
turtle, but my definition."
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Michael Hudson wrote:
> Gary Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>... bus error 100% of the time ...:
We've boiled it down pretty far, and I've sent him off to
the mac-python folks (looks gcc-compilerish to me, or maybe
fallout from slight changes in C function call s
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dynamic blocks with no distance codes
* Fix crc check bug in gzread() after gzungetc()
* Do not return an error when using gzread() on an empty file
I'd guess this belongs in 2.5, with a possible retrofit for 2.4.
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Michael Hudson wrote:
> How does a copying gc differ much from a non-copying non-refcounted gc
> here?
One important issue for C coded modules is that addresses may change
when a GC is invoked, so no remembering addresses in your module; you
must recalculate before each use.
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emselves:
Installer:
http://members.dsl-only.net/~daniels/dist/to_int-0.10.win32-py2.4.exe
Just the 2.4 dll:
http://members.dsl-only.net/~daniels/dist/to_int-0.10.win32.zip
Sources:
http://members.dsl-only.net/~daniels/dist/to_int-0.10.zip
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Well, wouldn't you know it.
I get the code right and mess up the directions.
Scott David Daniels wrote:
> if you build this module, I'd suggest using
> "from to_int import chomp" to get a function that works like int
> (producing a long when needed and so on).
We
t directory, cd to that dir, and
run test_hi_powers.py. Let me know if the tests pass or fail.
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Since I am fiddling with int/long conversions to/from string:
Is the current behavior intentional (or mandatory?):
v = int(' 5 ')
works, but:
v = int(' 5L ')
f
ated feature
> - Generate deprecation warnings when it is used?
>(This might be too much.)
Perhaps "The __ name convention is designed for 'mixins'; as a means of
enforcing "private" it is both ineffective and annoying. For example,
distutils.msvccompiler uses a
Jeremy Hylton wrote:
> On 12/12/05, Scott David Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Perhaps "The __ name convention is designed for 'mixins'; as a means of
>> enforcing "private" it is both ineffective and annoying. For example,
>> distutils.m
can then easily go in a Python25.zip).
My (admittedly weak) understanding of how packages work is that all
parts of a package should lie off the same node of the PYTHONPATH.
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> On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 09:56 -0800, Scott David Daniels wrote:
>> One good reason for this is that the .pyd's or .so's cannot necessarily
>> be used from zip files
> When you say "cannot necessarily", are the situations where they can be
more than a single
process. If the .egg strategy is followed, I expect that either the
file shared is in a user(or even process)-specific location or there
is a shared folder that is writable by many processes from which
executable code can be run. The one solution reduces sharing, the
othe
Michael Chermside wrote:
> ... a meme will spread which says (and PLEASE don't quote this!)
> "ElementTree has a great API, but it's just too slow for real work."
+1 DNQOTW :-) (Do Not Quote Of The Week)
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g zip formats that
are starting to be created from other sources). Would it make
sense to include bzip2 in here as well (if the zipfile changes
go in)?
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ing an explicit __lt__
> isn't much of an extra burden, and will make
> the ordering much more useful for debugging
> and output.
Tell me:
>>> a = [0] * 3
>>> b = [0] * 3
>>> a[0] = b
>>> b[0] = a
What order should a and b have?
--Scott David
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>>> Let's add another line that says
>>> Type "quit()" to exit
>>> ...
Or, perhaps:
class _Quitter(str):
def __call__(self): raise SystemExit
quit = _Quitter('The quit command. Typ
ttest.TestCase.failureException:
pass
else:
raise BrokenTest(test_method.__name__, reason)
return replacement
wrapper.todo = reason
return wrapper
So your use looks like:
class SomeTests(unittest.TestCase
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