Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing buildbot/external(-amd64).bat files on Windows

2008-02-29 Thread Thomas Heller
Trent Nelson schrieb: > Howdy, > > I'm going through the motions of getting my newly added build slave in a half > decent state. I think the buildbot should have a name different from 'x86 XP'. (Martin, Neal?) Thomas ___ Python-Dev mailing list Pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] Code freeze?

2008-02-29 Thread Scott Dial
Barry Warsaw wrote: >> Alterntaively, I guess you could just suggest that people check the >> buildbot page for their platforms before downloading > > Yes, good idea. I'm only going to cut source tarballs for the alphas. > I apologize for having doubt in your plan, and I can certainly app

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing buildbot/external(-amd64).bat files on Windows

2008-02-29 Thread Thomas Heller
Trent Nelson schrieb: > Howdy, > > I'm going through the motions of getting my newly added build slave in a half > decent state. The external.bat and external-amd64.bat files needed the > following in order to build db-4.4.20: > > Index: external.bat > =

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing buildbot/external(-amd64).bat files on Windows

2008-02-29 Thread Christian Heimes
Thomas Heller wrote: > I guess it will be merged automatically by Christian. I won't have time today. Sorry Christian ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing buildbot/external(-amd64).bat files on Windows

2008-02-29 Thread Trent Nelson
> > I'm going through the motions of getting my newly added build slave > in a half decent state. > > I think the buildbot should have a name different from 'x86 XP'. > (Martin, Neal?) > > Thomas Yeah, I've dropped Martin a note regarding this. The community bots refer to Windows Server 2003 box

Re: [Python-Dev] Code freeze?

2008-02-29 Thread Georg Brandl
Scott Dial schrieb: > Barry Warsaw wrote: >>> Alterntaively, I guess you could just suggest that people check the >>> buildbot page for their platforms before downloading >> >> Yes, good idea. I'm only going to cut source tarballs for the alphas. >> > > I apologize for having doubt in your

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing buildbot/external(-amd64).bat files on Windows

2008-02-29 Thread Christian Heimes
Trent Nelson wrote: > - vcbuild db-4.4.20\build_win32\Berkeley_DB.sln /build Debug /project > db_static > + devenv /upgrade db-4.4.20\build_win32\Berkeley_DB.sln > + devenv db-4.4.20\build_win32\Berkeley_DB.sln /build Debug /project > db_static The upgrade is requires only once. It probabl

Re: [Python-Dev] Code freeze?

2008-02-29 Thread Tim Golden
Georg Brandl wrote: > For one thing, releases generate "news", meaning that people will be made > aware that things are moving, that Python is well underway to its next > major versions, and maybe will be more inclined to look at what's new, > or check out a release. I'd like to second that point

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Code freeze?

2008-02-29 Thread Nick Coghlan
Christian Heimes wrote: > Barry Warsaw wrote: >> Okay, let's go ahead and make it official. >> >> I plan on cutting the alphas for 2.6 and 3.0 at about 6pm Eastern >> (UTC-5) time or 2300 UTC. Let's freeze the tree one hour prior to >> that: 2200 UTC Friday 29-Feb-2008. > > Linux is looking good.

Re: [Python-Dev] Code freeze?

2008-02-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 29, 2008, at 5:21 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: > Scott Dial schrieb: >> Barry Warsaw wrote: Alterntaively, I guess you could just suggest that people check the buildbot page for their platforms before downloading >>> >>> Yes, good ide

Re: [Python-Dev] Code freeze?

2008-02-29 Thread Nick Coghlan
Barry Warsaw wrote: > Think of it this way: the alphas are for /us/ as much as for our users. In that vein, I think the monthly alphas may also help as a means for setting personal deadlines for things we're working on. "Implement for 2.6" is a bit of a wishy-washy deadline at some vague point i

Re: [Python-Dev] Code freeze?

2008-02-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 29, 2008, at 7:39 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > Barry Warsaw wrote: >> Think of it this way: the alphas are for /us/ as much as for our >> users. > > In that vein, I think the monthly alphas may also help as a means > for setting personal deadl

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing buildbot/external(-amd64).bat files on Windows

2008-02-29 Thread Trent Nelson
Christian Heimes: > Trent Nelson wrote: > > - vcbuild db-4.4.20\build_win32\Berkeley_DB.sln /build Debug > /project db_static > > + devenv /upgrade db-4.4.20\build_win32\Berkeley_DB.sln > > + devenv db-4.4.20\build_win32\Berkeley_DB.sln /build Debug > /project db_static > > The upgrade is req

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing buildbot/external(-amd64).bat files on Windows

2008-02-29 Thread Thomas Heller
Trent Nelson schrieb: > Christian Heimes: >> Trent Nelson wrote: >> > - vcbuild db-4.4.20\build_win32\Berkeley_DB.sln /build Debug >> /project db_static >> > + devenv /upgrade db-4.4.20\build_win32\Berkeley_DB.sln >> > + devenv db-4.4.20\build_win32\Berkeley_DB.sln /build Debug >> /project db

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing buildbot/external(-amd64).bat files on Windows

2008-02-29 Thread Christian Heimes
Thomas Heller wrote: > What's the difference between these two? > > vcbuild db-4.4.20\build_win32\Berkeley_DB.sln /build Debug > > devenv db-4.4.20\build_win32\Berkeley_DB.sln /build Debug Devenv is the name of the VS GUI executable but it can *also* be used as a CLI to build stuff. devenv d

Re: [Python-Dev] Code freeze?

2008-02-29 Thread Christian Heimes
Nick Coghlan wrote: > In composing this response, I also realised why the new tempfile tests > worked for me before I checked them in: I was testing it on the trunk, > where _TemporaryFileWrapper is a classic class. Special method lookup on > classic classes doesn't include the 'direct-to-type'

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing buildbot/external(-amd64).bat files on Windows

2008-02-29 Thread Trent Nelson
Christian Heimes: > Thomas Heller wrote: > > What's the difference between these two? > > > > vcbuild db-4.4.20\build_win32\Berkeley_DB.sln /build Debug > > > > devenv db-4.4.20\build_win32\Berkeley_DB.sln /build Debug > > Devenv is the name of the VS GUI executable but it can *also* be used as

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Code freeze?

2008-02-29 Thread Nick Coghlan
Christian Heimes wrote: > Is this documented somewhere? The docs say "See the > :meth:`__getattribute__` method below for a way to actually get total > control over attribute access.". I just checked, and the restriction is now documented in the development docs in the section on special methods

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing buildbot/external(-amd64).bat files on Windows

2008-02-29 Thread Christian Heimes
Trent Nelson wrote: > S:\buildbots\python\trunk.nelson-windows\db-4.4.20\build_win32>devenv > Berkeley_DB.sln /build Debug /project db_static > Microsoft (R) Visual Studio Version 9.0.21022.8. > Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp. All rights reserved. > == Build: 0 succeeded, 0 failed, 1 up-to-d

[Python-Dev] Summary of Tracker Issues

2008-02-29 Thread Tracker
ACTIVITY SUMMARY (02/22/08 - 02/29/08) Tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue number. Do NOT respond to this message. 1711 open (+34) / 12326 closed (+13) / 14037 total (+47) Open issues with patches: 457 Average durati

Re: [Python-Dev] download python-2.6 docs?

2008-02-29 Thread Georg Brandl
Neal Becker schrieb: > http://docs.python.org/dev/download.html > > I want a pdf. The above link says: > "To download an archive containing all the documents for this version of > Python in one of various formats, follow one of links in this table. " > > But there are no links. Unfortunately, w

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Code freeze?

2008-02-29 Thread Eric Smith
Barry Warsaw wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Feb 28, 2008, at 4:03 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > >> Barry Warsaw wrote: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> On Feb 28, 2008, at 2:49 PM, Christian Heimes wrote: Hey Barry! >>> Hi Christian! W

Re: [Python-Dev] Code freeze?

2008-02-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Not speaking for Barry or anyone else but myself. This is an explanation of how I understand the process and why I welcome it. Scott Dial writes: > I don't understand who these alpha releases are supposed to be for, and > who they will serve. An alpha test is internal. It is comprised of th

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Code freeze?

2008-02-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 29, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > I think that it probably is desirable to to put that deadline pressure > on. Individuals who rush to get their work in, and cause alpha-to- > alpha regressions, can be advised to wait in the f

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Code freeze?

2008-02-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 29, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > Barry Warsaw wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> On Feb 28, 2008, at 4:03 PM, Eric Smith wrote: >>> Barry Warsaw wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing buildbot/external(-amd64).bat files on Windows

2008-02-29 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>>> I'm going through the motions of getting my newly added build >>> slave >> in a half decent state. >> >> I think the buildbot should have a name different from 'x86 XP'. >> (Martin, Neal?) >> > Yeah, I've dropped Martin a note regarding this. The community bots > refer to Windows Server 200

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing buildbot/external(-amd64).bat files on Windows

2008-02-29 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I'm going through the motions of getting my newly added build slave > in a half decent state. The external.bat and external-amd64.bat > files needed the following in order to build db-4.4.20: I've fixed that in a different way. devenv.exe should not be used, as it is unavailable in VS Express.

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing buildbot/external(-amd64).bat files on Windows

2008-02-29 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>> - vcbuild db-4.4.20\build_win32\Berkeley_DB.sln /build Debug /project >> db_static >> + devenv /upgrade db-4.4.20\build_win32\Berkeley_DB.sln >> + devenv db-4.4.20\build_win32\Berkeley_DB.sln /build Debug /project >> db_static > > The upgrade is requires only once. It probably belongs n

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing buildbot/external(-amd64).bat files on Windows

2008-02-29 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I don't know how the existing vcbuild line ever worked, given the following > output from vcbuild /?: > > Usage: vcbuild [options] [project|solution] [config|$ALL] It didn't. All the existing slaves already had a checkout when we switched to VS 2008, so a fresh checkout was never tested. Tha

[Python-Dev] No releases tonight

2008-02-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I tried, I really did. Python 2.6 is nearly ready, I'm mostly trying to figure out how to build the web pages properly. I haven't started on 3.0, but huge thanks go to Brett Cannon, Neal Norwitz, Mark Dickinson, and Fred Drake for helping out t

Re: [Python-Dev] No releases tonight

2008-02-29 Thread Steve Holden
Barry Warsaw wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I tried, I really did. > > Python 2.6 is nearly ready, I'm mostly trying to figure out how to > build the web pages properly. I haven't started on 3.0, but huge > thanks go to Brett Cannon, Neal Norwitz, Mark Dickinson