One other thing: There is no man cups-enable. Also one cant get help.
Personally I like to use it in /etc/rc.local to do this if links are not
set, but I could
not get any infos about any options - also not via cups-enable -h or
cups-enable --help.
regards,
Thilo
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:38:10AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > .It Fl M
> > Show the install-message file (if any) for each package.
> > +If any step not documented in the manual must be taken before a package
> > +can be used, this file will often mention it.
>
> That is an attempt to entir
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008, Jacob Meuser wrote:
>
> I think it would also be nice if README.OpenBSD were in pkg/ dirs
> and handled automatically, kinda like MESSAGE is now. adding files/
> dirs seems like a waste.
I like this.
--
Antoine
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 09:15:46PM -0500, Steve Shockley wrote:
> On 12/12/2008 2:40 PM, Jacob Meuser wrote:
>>> Who knows about -M? I'm serious. I've never used that option before,
>>> and it's totally nonobvious that I should look through the man page to
>>> find it.
>>
>> uh, you're saying it'
On 12/12/2008 2:40 PM, Jacob Meuser wrote:
Who knows about -M? I'm serious. I've never used that option before,
and it's totally nonobvious that I should look through the man page to
find it.
uh, you're saying it's totally nonobvious that people should read the
manuals of tools they are using
> .It Fl M
> Show the install-message file (if any) for each package.
> +If any step not documented in the manual must be taken before a package
> +can be used, this file will often mention it.
That is an attempt to entirely push the problem under the table.
The default message should be releva
Ted Unangst wrote on Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 05:20:19PM -0500:
> Why would I know to use -M? Because I read the man page and want to
> see the "install-message file"? I already installed the damn thing,
> so obviously I don't want to see that file.
The install message is not a "message explaining
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008, Jacob Meuser wrote:
> how is "too big" defined? is the above abbreviated CUPS message too
> big to add to the default pkg_info output?
At one point I was told that too big = >15 lines.
> how about a standard directory for README.OpenBSD files?
> ${PREFIX}/share/README.OpenBS
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:10:26AM +0100, Landry Breuil wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:27:44PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> > Ted is right. I do know about -M but I use it so frequently that I
> > always have to find it in the man. pkg_info could should be able to
> > display this info li
* Landry Breuil wrote:
[...]
> about. But i think sthen@'s proposal to add a message like 'This package
> has additional information, view it with pkg_info -M' is the most
> 'user-friendly'.
Yes, I'd second that.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:27:44PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> Ted is right. I do know about -M but I use it so frequently that I
> always have to find it in the man. pkg_info could should be able to
> display this info like pkg_info cups. That makes intuitive sense to me
> and I think other
Ted is right. I do know about -M but I use it so frequently that I
always have to find it in the man. pkg_info could should be able to
display this info like pkg_info cups. That makes intuitive sense to me
and I think others as well.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:00:20PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote:
>
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Marc Espie wrote:
> Like, gcc tells you to use -W -Wall if you forget to mention them ?
> Or sh tells you to use set -e whenever it runs a shell script ?
Duh, of course not. But why am I running pkg_info? Because I want
*info*. That's the whole freaking purpose
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 04:40:23PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Marc Espie wrote:
> >> These are too easy to miss at some point after installation.
> >> What does anyone think about doing something like this?
> >
> > Blech
> >
> > The issue is mostly to have less st
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 08:31:07PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 09:50:15AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> > On 2008/12/12 08:06, Marc Balmer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's also not mentioned by pkg_info as something of interest. It
> > > > should be, right?
> > >
> > > Your
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Marc Espie wrote:
>> These are too easy to miss at some point after installation.
>> What does anyone think about doing something like this?
>
> Blech
>
> The issue is mostly to have less stuff displayed during installation, which
> is not yet done, but should be.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 09:58:01PM +0100, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Jacob Meuser wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 09:48:35PM +0100, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> > > On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Jacob Meuser wrote:
> > > > one last note: pretty much every driver that can be used with
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Jacob Meuser wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 09:48:35PM +0100, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Jacob Meuser wrote:
> > > one last note: pretty much every driver that can be used with cups
> > > can be used with base lpd, it's just a little more work ... imo t
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 09:48:35PM +0100, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Jacob Meuser wrote:
> > one last note: pretty much every driver that can be used with cups
> > can be used with base lpd, it's just a little more work ... imo the
>
> This is true except it is much more compli
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Jacob Meuser wrote:
> one last note: pretty much every driver that can be used with cups
> can be used with base lpd, it's just a little more work ... imo the
This is true except it is much more complicated to pass options to stock
lpd than it is for cups if I want e.g. a4 wi
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 03:08:03PM +0100, Artur Grabowski wrote:
> Marc Balmer writes:
>
> > Your are wrong. When you install CUPS, a message is displayed.
> > That message can be redisplayed at any time using 'pkg_info -M cups'.
>
> Is this like Postfix where postfix is disabled by pkg_add -u
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 09:46:32AM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:06 AM, Marc Balmer wrote:
> >> It's also not mentioned by pkg_info as something of interest. It
> >> should be, right?
> >
> > Your are wrong. When you install CUPS, a message is displayed.
> > That message
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 09:50:15AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> On 2008/12/12 08:06, Marc Balmer wrote:
> > >
> > > It's also not mentioned by pkg_info as something of interest. It
> > > should be, right?
> >
> > Your are wrong. When you install CUPS, a message is displayed.
> > That messag
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:50 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> On 2008/12/12 08:06, Marc Balmer wrote:
>> >
>> > It's also not mentioned by pkg_info as something of interest. It
>> > should be, right?
>>
>> Your are wrong. When you install CUPS, a message is displayed.
>> That message can be redispl
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:06 AM, Marc Balmer wrote:
>> It's also not mentioned by pkg_info as something of interest. It
>> should be, right?
>
> Your are wrong. When you install CUPS, a message is displayed.
> That message can be redisplayed at any time using 'pkg_info -M cups'.
Who knows about
Marc Balmer writes:
> Your are wrong. When you install CUPS, a message is displayed.
> That message can be redisplayed at any time using 'pkg_info -M cups'.
Is this like Postfix where postfix is disabled by pkg_add -u and the
message about enabling it drowns in the bazillion of lines about
rebu
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 09:50:15AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> On 2008/12/12 08:06, Marc Balmer wrote:
> > >
> > > It's also not mentioned by pkg_info as something of interest. It
> > > should be, right?
> >
> > Your are wrong. When you install CUPS, a message is displayed.
> > That messag
* Stuart Henderson wrote:
> On 2008/12/12 08:06, Marc Balmer wrote:
> > >
> > > It's also not mentioned by pkg_info as something of interest. It
> > > should be, right?
> >
> > Your are wrong. When you install CUPS, a message is displayed.
> > That message can be redisplayed at any time using '
On 2008/12/12 08:06, Marc Balmer wrote:
> >
> > It's also not mentioned by pkg_info as something of interest. It
> > should be, right?
>
> Your are wrong. When you install CUPS, a message is displayed.
> That message can be redisplayed at any time using 'pkg_info -M cups'.
These are too easy t
* Ted Unangst wrote:
> wondering why things stopped working after an upgrade, it took me a
> little while to remember that lpr was overwritten. but then it took a
> while longer to find cups-enable, even after I remembered that I
> needed to run it, because it's not cupsenable, which is the only o
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 05:33:17AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:00:21AM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote:
> > While on the subject, the lpd.pre-cups test is a little broken. I had
> > my old lpd backed up (pre-upgrade). Now the 4.4 tools are gone, and
> > the backups are from
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:00:21AM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote:
> wondering why things stopped working after an upgrade, it took me a
> little while to remember that lpr was overwritten. but then it took a
> while longer to find cups-enable, even after I remembered that I
> needed to run it, because
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