Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 07:16:47PM +0200, Johan Torin wrote: > On Saturday 20 May 2006 15:03, Lars Hansson wrote: > > What "make update" does is eactly what the pkg tools does, ie pkg_add -r so > > it's neather better or worse. Well, it's worse because you need to install > > the entire ports tree

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread viq
On Saturday 20 May 2006 10:23, Liviu Daia wrote: > On 20 May 2006, steven mestdagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > Liviu Daia [2006-05-20, 10:20:54]: > > > More no_x11 fun, this time with nmap. Nmap depends on libdnet, > > > which depends on Python (huh?), which depends on Tk, which depends

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Johan Torin
On Saturday 20 May 2006 15:03, Lars Hansson wrote: > What "make update" does is eactly what the pkg tools does, ie pkg_add -r so > it's neather better or worse. Well, it's worse because you need to install > the entire ports tree and compile the port into a package etc. Just using > packages is fas

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 09:44:51PM +0800, Lars Hansson wrote: > On Saturday 20 May 2006 21:29, Keith Matthews wrote: > > And not so long ago there was a no_x11 version of tk. > > There has never been a no_x11 version of Tk. Ever. There has, however, been a no-Tk version ('no_tkinter') of python f

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Lars Hansson
On Saturday 20 May 2006 21:29, Keith Matthews wrote: > And not so long ago there was a no_x11 version of tk. There has never been a no_x11 version of Tk. Ever. --- Lars Hansson

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Keith Matthews
On Sat, 20 May 2006 15:14:55 +0200 steven mestdagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lars Hansson [2006-05-20, 20:26:14]: > > > Something along the lines of "In case you want to use ports later, you > > > will need X even on a non-X system to satisfy dependencies." in the > > > Installation-FAQ will re

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Liviu Daia
On 20 May 2006, steven mestdagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Liviu Daia [2006-05-20, 11:23:29]: [...] > > Is building from ports still supported on OpenBSD? > > Yes. People who build ports are expected to have all filesets > installed, including X. Having used OpenBSD for 7+ years, 3.9 is

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread steven mestdagh
Lars Hansson [2006-05-20, 20:26:14]: > > Something along the lines of "In case you want to use ports later, you > > will need X even on a non-X system to satisfy dependencies." in the > > Installation-FAQ will remedy the situation for newcomers proactively. > > Except that you dont need X to build

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Lars Hansson
On Saturday 20 May 2006 20:52, Uwe Dippel wrote: > Since you are up-to-date, please share with me: which ? man pkg_add > True. "make clean" won't neither. But "make update" does. Surprised ? What "make update" does is eactly what the pkg tools does, ie pkg_add -r so it's neather better or worse.

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/05/20 20:52, Uwe Dippel wrote: > >No, packages has a better method. > Since you are up-to-date, please share with me: which ? pkg_add -ui

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Uwe Dippel
Lars Hansson wrote: No, packages has a better method. Since you are up-to-date, please share with me: which ? "make install" for a port will not update an already installed port. True. "make clean" won't neither. But "make update" does. Surprised ? If you cant figure that out by yourse

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 07:05:47PM +0800, Uwe Dippel wrote: > Joachim Schipper wrote: > > >OTOH, it is expected you either know what you are doing or just install > >packages - and in fact, if you do know what you are doing, you typically > >*still* install packages. > > Or, maybe, if you know wha

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Lars Hansson
On Saturday 20 May 2006 19:05, Uwe Dippel wrote: > Or, maybe, if you know what you are doing, you still install ports, for > their IMHO better method of updating. No, packages has a better method. "make install" for a port will not update an already installed port. There's a reason Theo, Espie et

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 11:24:47AM +0100, Keith Matthews wrote: > On Sat, 20 May 2006 10:44:23 +0200 > steven mestdagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes. People who build ports are expected to have all filesets installed, > > including X. > > Oh, where is this documented please ? Well, for one,

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Uwe Dippel
Joachim Schipper wrote: OTOH, it is expected you either know what you are doing or just install packages - and in fact, if you do know what you are doing, you typically *still* install packages. Or, maybe, if you know what you are doing, you still install ports, for their IMHO better method

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Keith Matthews
On Sat, 20 May 2006 10:44:23 +0200 steven mestdagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes. People who build ports are expected to have all filesets installed, > including X. > Oh, where is this documented please ?

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Florin Iamandi
Joachim Schipper dixit (2006-05-20, 11:22:35): > On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 10:53:21AM +0200, Florin Iamandi wrote: > > Liviu Daia dixit (2006-05-20, 10:26:02): > > > > > Is building from ports still supported on OpenBSD? > > > > I don't think it was ever "supported"... > > http://openbsd.org/faq/f

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 10:53:21AM +0200, Florin Iamandi wrote: > Liviu Daia dixit (2006-05-20, 10:26:02): > > > Is building from ports still supported on OpenBSD? > > I don't think it was ever "supported"... > http://openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#PkgVsPorts Well, it *is* supported to the extent th

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Florin Iamandi
Liviu Daia dixit (2006-05-20, 10:26:02): > Is building from ports still supported on OpenBSD? I don't think it was ever "supported"... http://openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#PkgVsPorts -- Florin Iamandi (Slippery) Reason is the first victim of emotion. -- Scytale, Dune Messiah

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread steven mestdagh
Liviu Daia [2006-05-20, 11:23:29]: > On 20 May 2006, steven mestdagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Liviu Daia [2006-05-20, 10:20:54]: > > > More no_x11 fun, this time with nmap. Nmap depends on libdnet, > > > which depends on Python (huh?), which depends on Tk, which depends > > > on X. Bu

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Liviu Daia
On 20 May 2006, steven mestdagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Liviu Daia [2006-05-20, 10:20:54]: > > More no_x11 fun, this time with nmap. Nmap depends on libdnet, > > which depends on Python (huh?), which depends on Tk, which depends > > on X. Building a no_python flavor of libdnet first solv

Re: Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread steven mestdagh
Liviu Daia [2006-05-20, 10:20:54]: > More no_x11 fun, this time with nmap. Nmap depends on libdnet, > which depends on Python (huh?), which depends on Tk, which depends on X. > Building a no_python flavor of libdnet first solves the problem... Which "problem" is that? We do not consider X a p

Problem building nmap-no_x11

2006-05-20 Thread Liviu Daia
More no_x11 fun, this time with nmap. Nmap depends on libdnet, which depends on Python (huh?), which depends on Tk, which depends on X. Building a no_python flavor of libdnet first solves the problem... Regards, Liviu Daia -- Dr. Liviu Daia http://w