re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-10-25 Thread Shaun Reich
(changing title as the other thread was freaking huge and a bit bikesheddy). seems the man-plasmaenginexplorer in workspace/doc/plasma-desktop has not been moved out, along with the tool itself in that move, tereitor, care to fix? (i don't have that cloned) -- Shaun Reich, KDE Software Developer

Re: Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-28 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Tuesday 28 August 2012 10:06:54 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > Also, Plasmate (again afaik) is not done using kdevplatform, I have been > > told since day 1 that it will be at some point but apparently it is not. I > > don't know if kdevplatform is the solution but what I know is that we need > > t

Re: Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-28 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Tuesday 28 August 2012 10:37:10 Marco Martin wrote: > yeah, but disappointing indeed that all parts of kdesdk are still in svn, > some of the apps still seem to have regular commits, so is not even > "because unmaintained" > in that repo there is something that i would definitely want, and some

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-28 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:37:10 Marco Martin wrote: > i would like again a repo like that with all needed (did i already > mentioned i'm definitely not a fan of micro git repos?;) > that may include plsmate, plasma tools and some of the tools in kdesdk, > intersection between those that make

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-28 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 28 August 2012, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > Plasmate only allows to create plasmoids javascript based afaik and it is > > desgined to do only that (which is cool). Imho it is wy far from > > being an sdk. > > Plasmate is not a complete SDK for everything, sure. The point here is no

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-28 Thread Sebastian Kügler
Hey, On Monday, August 27, 2012 10:17:21 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > Since we are adding "yet another" repo, our tools will be segregated > > > across > > > more repositories, making worse the already not ideal situation. > > > > The idea is to consolidate all those development tools into one repo,

Re: Re: Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-27 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Monday 27 August 2012 14:25:30 Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > On 27 August 2012 11:17, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > Plasmate only allows to create plasmoids javascript based afaik and it is > > desgined to do only that (which is cool). Imho it is wy far from being > > an > > sdk. > > A side note

Re: Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-27 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
On 27 August 2012 11:17, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > Plasmate only allows to create plasmoids javascript based afaik and it is > desgined to do only that (which is cool). Imho it is wy far from being > an > sdk. > A side note here, it is also able to 1. create datanengines, themes, runners, wind

Re: Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-27 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Saturday 25 August 2012 18:19:37 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 19:42:16 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > I have changed my mind on this topic with the following conclusion (hope > > it > > is useful for future actions). > > I think it is =) > > > The main reason why I don't lik

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-25 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 19:42:16 Alex Fiestas wrote: > I have changed my mind on this topic with the following conclusion (hope it > is useful for future actions). I think it is =) > The main reason why I don't like this movement is because it adds an extra > dependency for the random KDE h

Re: Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-21 Thread Alex Fiestas
I have changed my mind on this topic with the following conclusion (hope it is useful for future actions). The main reason why I don't like this movement is because it adds an extra dependency for the random KDE hacker that wants to do something. This hacker will compile everything so he will h

Re: Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-20 Thread Aleix Pol
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > Also just out of curiosity why I didn't saw any objections back in > February/March? > > http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2012-March/018838.html > http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2012-March/018838.html > > P.S.: y

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-20 Thread Aleix Pol
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Monday 20 August 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: >> >> I agree with aleix, typical example is Designer and Creator or Assistant. >> >> In the QML area, people are being forced to use Creator because the tools >> aren't exported as a different to

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-20 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 20 August 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > I agree with aleix, typical example is Designer and Creator or Assistant. > > In the QML area, people are being forced to use Creator because the tools > aren't exported as a different tool, and that pisses people off (all > emacs,vim,kdevelop,kat

Re: Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-20 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
Also just out of curiosity why I didn't saw any objections back in February/March? http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2012-March/018838.html http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2012-March/018838.html P.S.: yes this is the second time that we discuss this change -- Giorgos Tsiapal

Re: Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-20 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
On 20 August 2012 02:32, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > I agree with aleix, typical example is Designer and Creator or Assistant. > > In the QML area, people are being forced to use Creator because the tools > aren't exported as a different tool, and that pisses people off (all > emacs,vim,kdevelop,kate

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-20 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
On 20 August 2012 02:15, Aleix Pol wrote: > > That's a packaging decision. The Plasmate should depend on the plasma > tools. The Plasmate IDE will depend on the plasma tools, either if they are in the kde-workspace or in the plasmate repo. > > From a technical point of view, > > those are a fe

Re: Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-19 Thread Aleix Pol
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Monday 20 August 2012 01:15:07 Aleix Pol wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas >> >> wrote: >> > On 17 August 2012 16:24, Aleix Pol wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I don't really see the point of doing that. I don't see w

Re: Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-19 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Monday 20 August 2012 01:15:07 Aleix Pol wrote: > On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas > > wrote: > > On 17 August 2012 16:24, Aleix Pol wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I don't really see the point of doing that. I don't see why it's > >> better not to have them in kde-workspace is it t

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-19 Thread Aleix Pol
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > > > On 17 August 2012 16:24, Aleix Pol wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I don't really see the point of doing that. I don't see why it's >> better not to have them in kde-workspace is it troublesome for anyone? > > > From an aesthetic point of vie

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-19 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
On 19 August 2012 08:13, Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: > > Well you cannot, if you want both plasmoidviewer and plasmate to be able > to use it, you'll have to move the stuff to some qwidget (or maybe a > KPart?) so that they can share it. > >> >> 2. Some tools when they are used as standalone applic

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-18 Thread Shantanu Tushar Jha
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > > > On 17 August 2012 16:24, Aleix Pol wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I don't really see the point of doing that. I don't see why it's >> better not to have them in kde-workspace is it troublesome for anyone? >> > > From an aesthetic point of vi

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-18 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
If there aren't any new replies in this thread until Monday morning, I will push the changes into master. Regards, Giorgos -- Giorgos Tsiapaliokas (terietor) KDE Developer terietor.gr ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-18 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
Can I proceed with the change? -- Giorgos Tsiapaliokas (terietor) KDE Developer terietor.gr ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-17 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
On 17 August 2012 16:24, Aleix Pol wrote: > > Hi, > I don't really see the point of doing that. I don't see why it's > better not to have them in kde-workspace is it troublesome for anyone? > >From an aesthetic point of view, Q: Hello, where are the plasma tools? I want to create a new plasmoid.

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-17 Thread Aleix Pol
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > Hello, > > my GSoC tasks included to move the plasma tools(those are > kde-workspace/plasma/generic/tools) into plasmate. > In order to do that I will use the "git subtree" command. > > With git subtree I will make a copy of kde-worksp

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-17 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
If nobody complains about the change, tomorrow morning I will merge terietor/tools into master and I will git rm kde-workspace/plasma/generic/tools -- Giorgos Tsiapaliokas (terietor) KDE Developer terietor.gr ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-16 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
I have just pushed a new branch in plasmate named terietor/tools. In this branch I have moved everything from kde-workspace/plasma/generic/tools to plasmate/ . (I haven't modified the kde-workspace repository) I have created this branch in order to get more feedback about the move. Is there anyth

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 16 August 2012, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Hey, > > First of all: if anybody objects to having these tools (plasmoidviewer, > etc.) not shipped with kde-workspace anymore, speak now or forever hold > your peace. > > :) > i think that is makes sense -- Marco Martin

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-16 Thread Daker Fernandes Pinheiro
2012/8/16 Sebastian Kügler > Hey, > > First of all: if anybody objects to having these tools (plasmoidviewer, > etc.) > not shipped with kde-workspace anymore, speak now or forever hold your > peace. > :) > Agreed. > > On Monday, August 13, 2012 17:40:39 Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > > my GSoC

Re: move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-16 Thread Sebastian Kügler
Hey, First of all: if anybody objects to having these tools (plasmoidviewer, etc.) not shipped with kde-workspace anymore, speak now or forever hold your peace. :) On Monday, August 13, 2012 17:40:39 Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > my GSoC tasks included to move the plasma tools(those are > kde-w

move plasma tools to plasmate

2012-08-13 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
Hello, my GSoC tasks included to move the plasma tools(those are kde-workspace/plasma/generic/tools) into plasmate. In order to do that I will use the "git subtree" command. With git subtree I will make a copy of kde-workspace/plasma/generic/tools into plasmate and then I will remove with git rm