On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas <terie...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > On 17 August 2012 16:24, Aleix Pol <aleix...@kde.org> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I don't really see the point of doing that. I don't see why it's >> better not to have them in kde-workspace is it troublesome for anyone? >> > > From an aesthetic point of view, > > Q: Hello, where are the plasma tools? I want to create a new plasmoid. > A: Inside kde-workspace you will find some tools which will make you life > easier > and in the plasmate repository you will find the plasma ide. > > That's why we want to move those tools in plasmate, we want our sdk to be > neat. No? > +1 For The Plasma SDK, this makes sense. > > > From a technical point of view, > those are a few issues for which we have to move the plasma tools inside > plasmate, > 1. How can someone embed a binary inside a qwidget? > Example: How can I embed the binary named plasmoidviewer inside > plasmate's MainWindow::CentralContainer::CentralContainer?? > Well you cannot, if you want both plasmoidviewer and plasmate to be able to use it, you'll have to move the stuff to some qwidget (or maybe a KPart?) so that they can share it. > > 2. Some tools when they are used as standalone applications require a few > extra ui stuff. > Example: when I execute plasmaremoteinstaller from plasmate I have a known > source directory for my plasmoid(thanks to plasmate), but when > I execute it as a standalone application I don't., so I need an extra > kurlrequester. How can I hide a kurlrequester from a binary? > Not sure about how to solve this > > > 3. duplication of code, plasmoidviewer vs plasma-previewer > where's plasma-previewer? Looks like I missed some news :P > > etc... > > >> In any case, maybe you should put them in a separate repository? >> > > I believe that this is an overkill and also we don't solve the above > technical issues. > > >> Everyone who has been using these tools so far, has done so without >> Plasmate, so there's definitely a use case outside Plasmate. >> > > When you say "plasmate" do you refer to the ide named plasmate or the > repository? > The plasma tools will be accessible both as standalone applications and as > plasmate plugins. > > Also those tools aren't a use case outside plasmate. When those tools had > been created plasmate didn't exist. > Also after the creation of plasmate, the project wasn't really usable, > but this has changed by now. > > -- > Giorgos Tsiapaliokas (terietor) > KDE Developer > > terietor.gr > > > _______________________________________________ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > > Overall I +1 this proposal, and thanks for all the awesome work :) -- Shantanu Tushar (UTC +0530) http://www.shantanutushar.com
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