Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

I guess I am sooo not the dude to say this as it's technical in nature but Aurorae theme is, as far as I recall, out as it has some issues speed wise (?) it was too taxing if I recall correctly (I'm sure I don't Martin G gave a handful of really good reasons why we shouldn't use it) But I have

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On 06/17/2014 10:56 AM, Marco Martin wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Marco Martin > wrote: On Thursday 15 May 2014 11:39:00 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was > coming have happened.

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 15 May 2014 11:39:00 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > > Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was > > coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of > > anything technical, people have

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Thursday, May 29, 2014 15:09:33 Marco Martin wrote: > > just to give a shot on every and single options, i gave a try to > modifying > > oxygen in order to make it look like breeze (therefore sharing all the > > things that it does tha

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 15:09:33 Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 15 May 2014 11:39:00 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > > Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was > > coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of > > anything technical, people have

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday 15 May 2014 11:39:00 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was > coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of > anything technical, people have reacted negatively to the lack of change. just to give a shot

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Monday 19 May 2014, Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 15 May 2014, Marco Martin wrote: > > btw, i added a small kde4 application in the breeze repo in the branch > > mart/kde4breeze > > that tries to set qtcurve, apply colors etc in the kde4 session. > > Do we go in this direction? > > so, this

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday 15 May 2014, Marco Martin wrote: > > btw, i added a small kde4 application in the breeze repo in the branch > mart/kde4breeze > that tries to set qtcurve, apply colors etc in the kde4 session. > Do we go in this direction? so, this is in now. please test. one problem is: i need with

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Jens Reuterberg wrote: > I am already pinged and have pinged Andrew > > Best I can tell, the new Plasma Next plan for visuals is: * Widget style: QtCurve with Breeze settings applied for qt4 and qt5 QWidget apps * Window decoration: Oxygen with background gradi

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Friday 16 May 2014, Ivan Čukić wrote: > > > at the moment is a kde4 application to be safer to access config of > > > kde4 (otherwise i guess would be possible by just accessing ~/.kde or > > > ~/kde4 going by attempts, but a bit more error prone perhaps) > > > > We should be able to check KDE

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

> > at the moment is a kde4 application to be safer to access config of kde4 > > (otherwise i guess would be possible by just accessing ~/.kde or ~/kde4 > > going by attempts, but a bit more error prone perhaps) > > We should be able to check KDEDIRS first here? (It's unused in KF5, but > could

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Friday, May 16, 2014 16:20:26 Marco Martin wrote: > On Friday 16 May 2014, David Edmundson wrote: > > We have an extra month. Lets do it. > > > > > > > > As for your application, I think we need a guard on > > if (QFile::exists( theQStyleRcFile ) { > > > > return; > > > > } > > so we don't tr

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Friday 16 May 2014, David Edmundson wrote: > We have an extra month. Lets do it. > > As for your application, I think we need a guard on > if (QFile::exists( theQStyleRcFile ) { > return; > } > so we don't trash user configs. > > group.writeEntry("widgetStyle", "oxygen"); > seems wrong > >

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

We have an extra month. Lets do it. As for your application, I think we need a guard on if (QFile::exists( theQStyleRcFile ) { return; } so we don't trash user configs. group.writeEntry("widgetStyle", "oxygen"); seems wrong Is the plan to add a kconf_update script to run this? Or have it run b

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Friday 16 May 2014, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > i see here a giant thread of opinions wether "would look nice" or not, > > and zero about concrete steps about how to solve the whole mess. > > that's not cool > > Do you need input from developers or designers? If designer input is > needed, just

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

I am already pinged and have pinged Andrew On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Friday 16 May 2014 13:37:34 Marco Martin wrote: > > On Thursday 15 May 2014, Marco Martin wrote: > > > btw, i added a small kde4 application in the breeze repo in the branch > > > mart/kde

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Friday 16 May 2014 13:37:34 Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 15 May 2014, Marco Martin wrote: > > btw, i added a small kde4 application in the breeze repo in the branch > > mart/kde4breeze > > that tries to set qtcurve, apply colors etc in the kde4 session. > > Do we go in this direction? > >

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday 15 May 2014, Marco Martin wrote: > btw, i added a small kde4 application in the breeze repo in the branch > mart/kde4breeze > that tries to set qtcurve, apply colors etc in the kde4 session. > Do we go in this direction? err, would be cool at least to know if i have to invest time in t

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Friday 16 May 2014, David Edmundson wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Jens Reuterberg wrote: > > Screenshot? > > http://imgur.com/Px6n2YO the buttons are quite alien, but may be bearable -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma

Re: Re: Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Friday 16 May 2014 13:11:37 David Edmundson wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Jens Reuterberg wrote: > > Screenshot? > > http://imgur.com/Px6n2YO true, looks quite good. That's with gradient disabled, isn't it? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. _

Re: Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Jens Reuterberg wrote: > Screenshot? http://imgur.com/Px6n2YO ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

Screenshot? On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:41 PM, David Edmundson < da...@davidedmundson.co.uk> wrote: > QtCurve QStyle + Oxygen window dec is an option. > > I run it here, it looks ok. > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mai

Re: Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

QtCurve QStyle + Oxygen window dec is an option. I run it here, it looks ok. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday 15 May 2014 22:37:55 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Thursday 15 May 2014 12:49:31 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > I really don't want to have an Aurorae theme as default. It would > > undermine > > the fact that I told distros to not do that. We cannot bend ourselves like > > that :-) > > Plan

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday 15 May 2014 12:49:31 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > I really don't want to have an Aurorae theme as default. It would undermine > the fact that I told distros to not do that. We cannot bend ourselves like > that :-) Plan B: Use a QtCurve-based windeco together with the QtCurve widget style?

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday 15 May 2014, Martin Klapetek wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > QtCurve is also there for Qt4, no? In that case, can't we share the > > > theme and make both, Qt4 and Qt5 apps looks the same that way? > > > > yes, but we would change it also for thei

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

In data giovedì 15 maggio 2014 14:31:27, Martin Klapetek ha scritto: > I'm thinking...would that be a problem? We should perhaps warn users first, > yes, but then it was their choice to co-install it on the very same machine Most distros will *not* ship PN as default configuration. So you might e

Re: Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday 15 May 2014 14:28:49 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 15.05.2014 14:10, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > On Thursday 15 May 2014 14:08:29 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > >> On Thursday, May 15, 2014 13:58:04 Marco Martin wrote: > >>> On Thursday 15 May 2014 13:35:21 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 15.05

Re: Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > > QtCurve is also there for Qt4, no? In that case, can't we share the theme > > and make both, Qt4 and Qt5 apps looks the same that way? > > yes, but we would change it also for their KDE 4 setup. > I'm thinking...would that be a probl

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday 15 May 2014 14:23:47 Marco Martin wrote: > * install the color scheme in the kf5 *and* kde4 proper folders, that are > different > > * make the breeze color scheme default in both kf5 and kde4 ah, was forgetting: * apply the new icon theme too in both kde4/kf5 as soon we have it --

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On 15.05.2014 14:10, Martin Gräßlin wrote: On Thursday 15 May 2014 14:08:29 Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Thursday, May 15, 2014 13:58:04 Marco Martin wrote: On Thursday 15 May 2014 13:35:21 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: On 15.05.2014 12:16, David Edmundson wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Jens

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday 15 May 2014 14:10:15 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Thursday 15 May 2014 14:08:29 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > On Thursday, May 15, 2014 13:58:04 Marco Martin wrote: > > > On Thursday 15 May 2014 13:35:21 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > > > On 15.05.2014 12:16, David Edmundson wrote: > > > > > On

Re: Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday 15 May 2014 14:08:29 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Thursday, May 15, 2014 13:58:04 Marco Martin wrote: > > On Thursday 15 May 2014 13:35:21 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > > On 15.05.2014 12:16, David Edmundson wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Jens Reuterberg > > wrote: > >

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday, May 15, 2014 13:58:04 Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 15 May 2014 13:35:21 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > On 15.05.2014 12:16, David Edmundson wrote: > > > On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Jens Reuterberg wrote: > > > > > > > > > People always react whatever you do. > > > Do not get

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday 15 May 2014 13:35:21 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 15.05.2014 12:16, David Edmundson wrote: > > On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Jens Reuterberg wrote: > >> Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was > >> coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On 15.05.2014 12:16, David Edmundson wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Jens Reuterberg wrote: Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of anything technical, people have reacted negatively

Re: Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday 15 May 2014 12:21:34 Martin Klapetek wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > The performance will be bad with Aurorae (worse than with Oxygen). The > > crashes > > are now gone as we disabled the multi-threading. > > > > My position doesn't change on that:

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:40:55 Ivan Čukić wrote: > > > Don't we have a plasmoid already for that? That "report a bug" thing? We > > > could have that (or a similar one with warning text) placed on the > > > desktop > > > by default? > > Can somebody with good writing skills whip up something f

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

> > Don't we have a plasmoid already for that? That "report a bug" thing? We > > could have that (or a similar one with warning text) placed on the desktop > > by default? Can somebody with good writing skills whip up something for this? > hm, don't know, a plasmoid is too easy to remove and for

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday 15 May 2014 12:15:07 Kai Uwe Broulik wrote: > Am 15.05.2014 12:10 schrieb =?UTF-8?B?SXZhbiDEjHVracSH?= : > > A bit off: > > What do people think about adding an evil dialogue on startup, similar to > > what e17 had - to warn the users about the state of the software and its > > use in

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

> Maybe we could make it the default and in combination with what Ivan is I'm actually not talking only about the style :) -- When the pupil is ready to learn, a teacher will appear. -- Basho ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org http

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

In data giovedì 15 maggio 2014 11:39:00, Jens Reuterberg ha scritto: > The issue WOULD be more ok from my POV if it could be contained towards me > personally but its affecting VDG work not to mention being a massive PR As David said, the feedback on Slashdot and Reddit is *always* negative and

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > The performance will be bad with Aurorae (worse than with Oxygen). The > crashes > are now gone as we disabled the multi-threading. > > My position doesn't change on that: Aurorae is not suited as a default > theme. > This has just never b

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Jens Reuterberg wrote: > Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was > coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of anything > technical, people have reacted negatively to the lack of change. > People always re

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

Am 15.05.2014 12:10 schrieb =?UTF-8?B?SXZhbiDEjHVracSH?= : > > A bit off: > What do people think about adding an evil dialogue on startup, similar to > what > e17 had - to warn the users about the state of the software and its use in > production environment? Don't we have a plasmoid already

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

> QtCurve, i would say it's definitely possible. > the thing that doesn't look that right is that is a 3rd party package that > i'm not sure is maintained (since maintainers don't answer) I'm afraid that if we change it, that it will communicate that it is a final and usable version (talking abou

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday 15 May 2014 11:39:00 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was > coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of > anything technical, people have reacted negatively to the lack of change. > > The issue WOULD

Re: Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

On Thursday 15 May 2014 11:39:00 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was > coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of > anything technical, people have reacted negatively to the lack of change. > > The issue WOULD

Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of anything technical, people have reacted negatively to the lack of change. The issue WOULD be more ok from my POV if it could be contained towards me per