On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 01:09, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Saturday 05 February 2011, Jeffery MacEachern wrote:
>> I agree on the call for mocks; I wonder, though, if it might be good
>> to make some of the ideas discussed here more concrete (or at least,
>> more well-defined), and post them as "seed"
On 05-02-2011 at 11:06:08 Jeffery MacEachern
wrote:
>>> I have definitely seen this applet before Maybe it is in the
>>> playground
>>
>> hm.. i see something in playground/base/plasma/applets/runnapplet
> Aaron, I haven't checked there, but I know of a similar plasmoid that
> exists here:
On Saturday 05 February 2011, Jeffery MacEachern wrote:
> I agree on the call for mocks; I wonder, though, if it might be good
> to make some of the ideas discussed here more concrete (or at least,
> more well-defined), and post them as "seed" ideas when putting out the
> call.
> - Jeffery MacEach
>> I have definitely seen this applet before :) Maybe it is in the playground
>
> hm.. i see something in playground/base/plasma/applets/runnapplet
Aaron, I haven't checked there, but I know of a similar plasmoid that
exists here: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Run+Command?content=91495
I'm j
I agree on the call for mocks; I wonder, though, if it might be good
to make some of the ideas discussed here more concrete (or at least,
more well-defined), and post them as "seed" ideas when putting out the
call.
- Jeffery MacEachern
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:50, todd rme wrote:
> On Thu, Fe
>> i don't think there's been a lot of critical thinking about dock usage.
>> in fact, the mac dock was roundly criticized when it came out by
>> usability folks. i'm not dead set against a dock, but i am against
>> doing something because it's a trend. and with docks, that's what we
>> have
- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
> On Thursday, February 3, 2011, alex.tolar wrote:
> > Good night everybody,
> >
> > I'm not using Windows since Ubuntu Dapper Drake, and Macintosh since
> > before the colored iMacs: can't care less. Win7, OsX, Gnome3, Unity
> > and many minor distros adopted
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, alex.tolar wrote:
> Good night everybody,
>
> I'm not using Windows since Ubuntu Dapper Drake, and Macintosh since before
> the colored iMacs: can't care less. Win7, OsX, Gnome3, Unity and many
> minor distros adopted a Dock: maybe not for a fool reason at all. I'm n
On Thursday 03 February 2011, alex.tolar wrote:
> Good night everybody,
>
Yo, good evening.
thanks for the feedback I really think you should subscribe to the list, will
be easier to keep the discourse pen ;)
>
> About Activities
> - detail: switch "Add spacer" button on the Panel menu with "Act
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Ivan Čukić wrote:
>> This is IceWM, very useful feature when you have very limited resources.
>> ;-)
>
> Strangely enough, I use it from time to time, but completely forgot it
> was from there :)
> ---
>
> Well, we definitely need mocks of everything, this idea, and
> This is IceWM, very useful feature when you have very limited resources.
> ;-)
Strangely enough, I use it from time to time, but completely forgot it
was from there :)
---
Well, we definitely need mocks of everything, this idea, and
everything else people can devise.
Maybe we should ask the co
Well seems that despite of the differences in our thoughts, there are a
couple of points that everybody agrees on:
1-Maximize the usage of Favorites
2-Maximize the usage of KRunner
3-Find new ways of showing Favorites.
Going beyond that in the mailist will be difficult, maybe an irc session
cou
On 03-02-2011 at 18:57:41 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> hm.. i see something in playground/base/plasma/applets/runnapplet
> will have to check it out.
I guess you mean runcommand, there is no directory runnapplet there (at
least on SVN).
It uses own dialog for results and maybe some other things that
On 03-02-2011 at 19:05:56 Ivan Cukic wrote:
> BTW, on of the free DEs (forgot which one) had the standard win-like
> taskbar, and on Alt+Space (I encountered it by accident) it would replace
> the taskbar with a 'run' text field. I liked it, but it was no krunner -
> simple shell exec.
This is Ic
> the suggestion is then to put favorites and runners in physical locality
> to each other?
I have no clue about the specifics of the original idea, just saying how it
could be ;)
BTW, on of the free DEs (forgot which one) had the standard win-like
taskbar, and on Alt+Space (I encountered it by
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Ivan Cukic wrote:
> > > 1. Get rid of favorites from the application launcher. Focus on
> > > making runners easy, intuitive, and clear. These go in the middle.
> >
> > don't favourites and krunner do rather different things?
>
> They do, but when you use krunner,
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Ivan Cukic wrote:
> A.S. I might sound like I'm totally against the ideas proposed, I'm not -
> I'm just pointing out the potential problems instead of just +1-ing the
> good parts.
>
>> That doesn't seem to be a problem with the add widgets dialog, or with
>> the
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 2, 2011, todd rme wrote:
>
> what would be helpful is to do a mockup of your ideas below, and keep evolving
> it as we continue the discussion.
>
>> 1. Get rid of favorites from the application launcher. Focus on
>> m
> > 1. Get rid of favorites from the application launcher. Focus on
> > making runners easy, intuitive, and clear. These go in the middle.
>
> don't favourites and krunner do rather different things?
They do, but when you use krunner, that means you don't have the thing you
want in favs. (this
A.S. I might sound like I'm totally against the ideas proposed, I'm not -
I'm just pointing out the potential problems instead of just +1-ing the
good parts.
> That doesn't seem to be a problem with the add widgets dialog, or with
> the default Dolphin icons view, either.. I think it is fine if
On Wednesday, February 2, 2011, todd rme wrote:
what would be helpful is to do a mockup of your ideas below, and keep evolving
it as we continue the discussion.
> 1. Get rid of favorites from the application launcher. Focus on
> making runners easy, intuitive, and clear. These go in the middl
On Wednesday, February 2, 2011, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> On 02/02/2011 09:57 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> >> --- About taskmanager:
> >>
> >> (1) use only icons (this already happens when taskbar is full):
> >>- icon size on the panel should be shortcut size (>launcher size,
> >>
> >> =Kickoff)
>
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Ivan Cukic wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry, I forgot to write who wrote which quote...
>
> 1 On the horizontal application launchers
>
> While the horizontal format is fine for a few icon-only launchers (quick
> launch, docks etc.), the idea to
>> Have it open a horizont
Hi all,
Sorry, I forgot to write who wrote which quote...
1 On the horizontal application launchers
While the horizontal format is fine for a few icon-only launchers (quick
launch, docks etc.), the idea to
> Have it open a horizontal menu that replaces or covers the panel
> entirely. This men
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:23 PM, todd rme wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Alex Fiestas wrote:
>> On 02/02/2011 09:57 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
--- About taskmanager:
(1) use only icons (this already happens when taskbar is full):
- icon size on the panel should be s
On 02/03/2011 02:23 AM, todd rme wrote:
> So I see advantages to both approach. I think the most important
> factor are ultimately:
> 1. Do you have a lot of launchers? If so, then the icon-based task
> manager is probably better
> 2. Do you use grouping? If not, then the icon-based task manager
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> On 02/02/2011 09:57 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>>> --- About taskmanager:
>>>
>>> (1) use only icons (this already happens when taskbar is full):
>>> - icon size on the panel should be shortcut size (>launcher size,
>>> =Kickoff)
>>
>> i'm no
On 02/02/2011 09:57 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>> --- About taskmanager:
>>
>> (1) use only icons (this already happens when taskbar is full):
>>- icon size on the panel should be shortcut size (>launcher size,
>> =Kickoff)
>
> i'm not interested in making it a clone of windows7 :)
I'm not inter
On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > - more user interface, user experience, simplicity, very.. tactile.
>
> people who have various custom panel layouts will utterly, utterly hate
> this and i have no desire to deal with the horrible flaming that will
> result if we were to
On Wednesday, February 2, 2011, alex.tolar wrote:
> Why not a do-it-yourself gimpy mock-up?
> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-panel-470
oh, btw loved the mock up :)
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On Wednesday, February 2, 2011, alex.tolar wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> I'm Alex, I follow with passion your development and particularly this
> thread. I have a modest Panel proposal to present,
does it involve eating babies? (http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html ;)
> simple and agreeable,
> and,
On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Markus Slopianka wrote:
> Am Dienstag 01 Februar 2011, 13:17:51 schrieb Sebastian Kügler:
> > Actually, Aaron expressed my thoughts about your comments exactly.
>
> If that's the case, you guys really should work on your self esteem. Just
> because someone tells his
Am Dienstag 01 Februar 2011, 13:17:51 schrieb Sebastian Kügler:
> Actually, Aaron expressed my thoughts about your comments exactly.
If that's the case, you guys really should work on your self esteem. Just
because someone
tells his opinion he certainly does not necessarily demand his opinion t
On Tuesday, February 1, 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
> (seems even a good jj that someone starting with plasma could do, please
> put it into the wiki)
by which Marco means this page: http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Tasks
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On Tuesday 01 February 2011, todd rme wrote:
>
> Oh yes, another idea someone had that I forgot to mention: automatic
> runner focus. In other words, when focus is on the desktop (or there
> are no windows visible), and you start typing, automatically pull up
> krunner and enter the text there.
>
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 04:40, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 February 2011, Dario Freddi wrote:
>> Aaron, thanks for putting this to attention. I want to add some other
>> points which are relevant to me and I think fit well into this context.
>> Sorry for not replying to other points, but I
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:00 PM, todd rme wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>> hi...
>>
>> back when we started the path towards plasma i said that we needed to slowly
>> evolve the desktop beyond the desktop folder with icons littered on the
>> desktop.
>>
>> now w
On Tuesday 01 February 2011 13:07:58 Dario Freddi wrote:
> Aaron, thanks for putting this to attention. I want to add some other
> points which are relevant to me and I think fit well into this context.
> Sorry for not replying to other points, but I see a lot of enthusiasm,
> which is awesome, but
On Tuesday 01 February 2011 13:45:14 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> - Making KWin's taskswitcher more Activity-aware, for example by grouping
> windows in the Boxswitch, by having some "chapter" visualization in
> Coverswitch, or columns / grid in Present Windows
Easy to achieve as TabBox uses a QAb
On Tuesday, February 1, 2011, J Janz wrote:
> However, it'd be quite helpful to have Video, Audio and Image activities,
> where, taking the same amount of space at the desktop, I could have
> respective folderviews grouped with some more plasmoids to easily provide
> me more related content. For ex
On Tuesday 01 February 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 1, 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
> > if on the other hand we would make possible like windows to send a widget
> > to a subset of activities, this would become quite more complexm and i'm
> > not sure is really something we want
On Tuesday, February 1, 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
> if on the other hand we would make possible like windows to send a widget
> to a subset of activities, this would become quite more complexm and i'm
> not sure is really something we want to go intom, but maybe with nice
> enough use cases... ;)
On Tuesday, February 1, 2011, Mario Fux wrote:
> Yes. Should be more about documents and not about applications. The user
> knows about documents and "files" but shouldn't need to know about
> applications. E.g. "click on a document or media file" and not "start
> application xyz".
for document ce
On Tuesday, February 1, 2011, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> Activities are indeed one of the big things. I think we've got the basics
> right in 4.6, but it's not an obvious thing to integrate into your
> workflow, yet.
yes, seems like a good target for 4.7...
> - easily assigning a window to an Acti
On Tuesday 01 February 2011, J Janz wrote:
> became too small for the needs and has to be resized. Desktop and Dowloads
> folderviews would be resized/repositioned once to all activities and
> activities' specific plasmoids, if grouped, would only take one
> resizing/repositioning to each group.
>
On Tuesday 01 February 2011, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > hm, yes, good points. perhaps we could do some sort of melding of what
> > the newspaper containment does? a search area at the top, with results
> > filling in below it, and a scrollable grid for widgets below that?
>
> Hm, maybe we would
Boy, what a huge thread!
I'm sorry I couldn't read it entirely yet (and even less find out about this
around the web) and I'm sorry if you guys might have talked about it before
but, as don't see it and you've been discussing activities, I want to offer
at least something to polish the edges. I mi
On Monday, January 31, 2011 21:22:51 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > * it's not really done for containing applets, would almost mean
> >
> > dropping desktop widgets:
> > - right now it contains widgets in a little panel like strip with
> >
> > horizontal form factor. now overly pretty.
> >
> > - ma
On Monday, January 31, 2011 18:17:58 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> Ah and they deprecated the systray without having a replacement, but well
> not our problem ;-)
Au contraire. ;) The replacement is "unversioned javascript snippets" which
you dump into some system directory, which then hook into GNOME
Activities are indeed one of the big things. I think we've got the basics
right in 4.6, but it's not an obvious thing to integrate into your workflow,
yet.
On Monday, January 31, 2011 20:55:56 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Monday, January 31, 2011, Ivan Cukic wrote:
> > > * have all activities av
On Tuesday 01 February 2011, Dario Freddi wrote:
> Aaron, thanks for putting this to attention. I want to add some other
> points which are relevant to me and I think fit well into this context.
> Sorry for not replying to other points, but I see a lot of enthusiasm,
> which is awesome, but also tr
On Tuesday, February 01, 2011 01:09:54 Markus Slopianka wrote:
> Dude, calm down a little. I was blaming no one of anything.
Actually, Aaron expressed my thoughts about your comments exactly. It's not
about calming down, but about having a useful discussion among Plasma
developers. People don't
Aaron, thanks for putting this to attention. I want to add some other points
which are relevant to me and I think fit well into this context. Sorry for not
replying to other points, but I see a lot of enthusiasm, which is awesome, but
also translates to: too much text :D
However, preamble: thes
Am Montag 31 Januar 2011, 14.42:01 schrieb Marco Martin:
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
Morning
Finally I have read all the mails of this thread and hope to add some valuable
information and no redundant one.
> > back when we started the path towards plasma i said tha
Am Montag 31 Januar 2011, 21.29:01 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Monday, January 31, 2011, Ivan Čukić wrote:
Morning
> > > hm.. but they don't show up in window titlebar context menus when they
> > > are stopped; so a "bug" in kwin, then? it should be possible imho to
> > > send windows to any def
>> i'm trying to imagine a clever way to make it easy to go from a folder
>> returned as a search result to a folderview on the desktop. it could be
>> offered as an action on the QueryMatch, for instance, and make it easy to
>> "pin" that folder to your current activity layout instead of going thr
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:29, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Monday, January 31, 2011, Ivan Čukić wrote:
>> > hm.. but they don't show up in window titlebar context menus when they
>> > are stopped; so a "bug" in kwin, then? it should be possible imho to
>> > send windows to any defined activity. we
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:22, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Monday, January 31, 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>> > let's try something big and new. let's make that Big Move and step away
>> > from ~/Desktop.
>>
>> to me the biggest dumb thing is
On Monday, January 31, 2011, Markus Slopianka wrote:
> You asked for comments and I commented. So don't be a bitch just because my
> opinion differs from yours!
i was "a bitch" because i don't think it is too much to ask that we come to
these kinds of discussion with informed ideas and opinion. w
Dude, calm down a little. I was blaming no one of anything.
You need to understand that when somebody simply states what he observes (that
programmers
with many programs and windows open tend to like Activities more than people
who execute
only 3 applications) it's not an insult against anyone.
On Monday 31 January 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Monday, January 31, 2011, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> > Well, then I guess that the only thing we can do is wait until desktop
> > summit and try to push the GNOME developers to collaborate again...
>
> +10 to that.
>
> > Is understandable that in t
On Monday 31 January 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Monday, January 31, 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > it is time to go to that next step and move people away from the old
> > > ways.
> >
> > yep, I would still like to push desktop bey
A Segunda, 31 de Janeiro de 2011 21:23:44 Steven Sroka você escreveu:
> On 31 January 2011 14:51, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On Monday, January 31, 2011, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> >> So, if the situation is as bad as you think it is we should organize a
> >> sprint or something and try to fix the curre
On Monday, January 31, 2011, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> Well, then I guess that the only thing we can do is wait until desktop
> summit and try to push the GNOME developers to collaborate again...
+10 to that.
> Is understandable that in their current situation they can't be commited
> to any new sta
On Monday, January 31, 2011, Steven Sroka wrote:
> Discourage people from using GNOME 3, by making KDE even better (as
> stated above) and continue pushing it as a formidable desktop and not
> by outwardly and publicly criticizing GNOME devs attitudes. You are
> tip-toeing on a fine line. I say thi
On 31 January 2011 14:51, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Monday, January 31, 2011, Alex Fiestas wrote:
>> So, if the situation is as bad as you think it is we should organize a
>> sprint or something and try to fix the current freedesktop situation,
>
> that would require GNOME developers attending wi
On 01/31/2011 08:51 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> that would require GNOME developers attending with the same goal in mind.
> unfortunately, they have demonstrated repeatedly during gnome-shell
> devleopment that they have no intention to cooperate more. if anything, they
> have demonstrated that the
On Monday, January 31, 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
> yeah, i see better to introduce changes at small steps.
> for instance, we can put for 4.7 the milestone of screwing bit more with
> the systray and merge toolbox and krunner (even have the activity chooser
> ui there? I'm a bit intrigued with thi
On Monday 31 January 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Sunday, January 30, 2011, todd rme wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > * a new panel layout (TBD: let's work on this together!)
> > > * improve the tasks widget to have some of the nice features of widgets
>
On Monday, January 31, 2011, Ivan Čukić wrote:
> > hm.. but they don't show up in window titlebar context menus when they
> > are stopped; so a "bug" in kwin, then? it should be possible imho to
> > send windows to any defined activity. we could put the stopped
> > activities at the bottom of
>
>
On Monday, January 31, 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > it is time to go to that next step and move people away from the old
> > ways.
>
> yep, I would still like to push desktop beyond the desktop, resistence
> against is so amazing that i f
On Sunday, January 30, 2011, todd rme wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > * a new panel layout (TBD: let's work on this together!)
> > * improve the tasks widget to have some of the nice features of widgets
> > like "smooth tasks" with the mouse over highlights
>
> hm.. but they don't show up in window titlebar context menus when they are
> stopped; so a "bug" in kwin, then? it should be possible imho to send windows
> to any defined activity. we could put the stopped activities at the bottom of
What would that do?
1. Start the activity in question
2. Sto
On Monday, January 31, 2011, Ivan Cukic wrote:
> > * have all activities avaiable in kactivitmanagerd, even if they are
> > "stopped" in plasma-desktop
>
> ? Activities that are stopped are still in kamd.
hm.. but they don't show up in window titlebar context menus when they are
stopped; so a "b
On Monday, January 31, 2011, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> So, if the situation is as bad as you think it is we should organize a
> sprint or something and try to fix the current freedesktop situation,
that would require GNOME developers attending with the same goal in mind.
unfortunately, they have demo
On Monday 31 January 2011 20:40:41 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Monday, January 31, 2011, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
> > Panels, in the current implementation, are shared across different
> > activities: what about adding an option like "stick to current activity",
> > in order to achieve dif
On Monday, January 31, 2011, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
> Panels, in the current implementation, are shared across different
> activities: what about adding an option like "stick to current activity",
> in order to achieve different panels for different activities?
as long as the UI is kep
On Sunday, January 30, 2011, Markus Slopianka wrote:
> > let's try something big and new. let's make that Big Move and step away
> > from ~/Desktop.
>
> Frankly, I like my dumping ground.
and you can retain it. nobody is taking it away from you. even though i
personally think you'd find far bett
> What about just middle-click on the group?
I've had a talk (IRC) with Martin and I decided to pull out the
proposal since due to one reason (at least for the time being) - it is
not useful in general, but only for specific SDI applications.
--
Cheerio,
Ivan
--
While you were hanging yourself
On 01/31/2011 05:29 PM, Marco Martin wrote:
>> and they are developing a new standard and already prepared a wiki page
>> which includes all apps they need to change (also lists various KDE apps);
>> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Guidelines/MessageTray/Compatibili
>> ty
>>
>> Ah and they
On Monday 31 January 2011, todd rme wrote:
> > The same goes when using Konqueror with KWin tabs instead of innter tabs.
> >
> > While my main input device is the keyboard, I missed a button like this
> > quite a few times.
>
> What about just middle-click on the group?
>
taken for ungrouping ;
On 01/31/2011 05:04 PM, Marco Martin wrote:
> duh!
> so wouldn't break something that now is working after all ;)
> all of this should depend on resolutions returning different values, so
Imho we should disable that feature by default and improve the application
default size.
Maybe the correct way
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Ivan Cukic wrote:
>
>> you know ctrl+f7, do you?
>
> Yes, naturally, but having a key-shortcut for something doesn't mean there
> shouldn't be a mouse-way for the same thing. (for example winmenu - alt
> f3, close alt f4 etc.)
>
>> I don't think it's a good idea t
> you know ctrl+f7, do you?
Yes, naturally, but having a key-shortcut for something doesn't mean there
shouldn't be a mouse-way for the same thing. (for example winmenu - alt
f3, close alt f4 etc.)
> I don't think it's a good idea to add random buttons.
It is not like it is a 'run A.M.O.R. ap
On Monday 31 January 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Monday 31 January 2011 17:09:51 Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Monday 31 January 2011, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> > > On 01/31/2011 04:11 PM, Marco Martin wrote:
> > > > eh.
> > > > *cough* statusNotifierItem *cough* ;)
> > >
> > > GNOME 3 doesn't use s
On Monday 31 January 2011 17:38:21 Ivan Cukic wrote:
> On Monday, 31. January 2011. 17.29.04 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > But changing the semantics of Maximized button depending on whether the
> > app is modern or not is also a no go
>
> While we are on the topic of adding new captionbar buttons -
On Monday 31 January 2011 17:49:19 Fredrik Höglund wrote:
> On Monday 31 January 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > - Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
> >
> > > A Segunda, 31 de Janeiro de 2011 13:00:50 Marco Martin você escreveu:
> > > > provocation: remove the maximize button by default? ;) (as t
On Monday 31 January 2011 17:09:51 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Monday 31 January 2011, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> > On 01/31/2011 04:11 PM, Marco Martin wrote:
> > > eh.
> > > *cough* statusNotifierItem *cough* ;)
> >
> > GNOME 3 doesn't use statusNotifierItem?
>
> nope, they are still with xembed ones ;
> yeah, that as well, now it's possible with ctrl+click on the taskbar
> group, but i don't think many people actually know it, it's so
> carefully hidden ;)
And it should work even if people (like me) don't use taskbar groups.
Honestly, I always found that the taskbar was a misguided concept, b
On Monday 31 January 2011, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> On 01/31/2011 04:11 PM, Marco Martin wrote:
> > eh.
> > *cough* statusNotifierItem *cough* ;)
>
> GNOME 3 doesn't use statusNotifierItem?
nope, they are still with xembed ones ;)
i think also support for systray icons at all was rushed in recently
On Monday 31 January 2011, Ivan Cukic wrote:
> On Monday, 31. January 2011. 17.29.04 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > But changing the semantics of Maximized button depending on whether the
> > app is modern or not is also a no go
>
> While we are on the topic of adding new captionbar buttons - the thin
On Monday 31 January 2011, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> On 01/31/2011 03:35 PM, Marco Martin wrote:
> > yeah, tis is a good point indeed.
> > what happens now when ap application that saved its geometry when closed
> > on a bigger screen gets started on the small one?
>
> That you get used to maximize th
On 01/31/2011 04:11 PM, Marco Martin wrote:
> eh.
> *cough* statusNotifierItem *cough* ;)
GNOME 3 doesn't use statusNotifierItem?
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On 01/31/2011 03:35 PM, Marco Martin wrote:
> yeah, tis is a good point indeed.
> what happens now when ap application that saved its geometry when closed on a
> bigger screen gets started on the small one?
That you get used to maximize the window because the window doesn't fit
into the small scre
On Monday 31 January 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> - Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
> > A Segunda, 31 de Janeiro de 2011 13:00:50 Marco Martin você escreveu:
> > > provocation: remove the maximize button by default? ;) (as the netbook
> > > doesn't have minimize)
> >
> > will talk to mgrslin t
On Monday, 31. January 2011. 17.29.04 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> But changing the semantics of Maximized button depending on whether the
> app is modern or not is also a no go
While we are on the topic of adding new captionbar buttons - the thing
that I think would be nice is a a button to invoke p
On Monday 31 January 2011 17:08:59 todd rme wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Martin Gräßlin
>
> wrote:
> > - Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
> >
> >> A Segunda, 31 de Janeiro de 2011 13:00:50 Marco Martin você escreveu:
> >> > provocation: remove the maximize button by default? ;) (
On Monday 31 January 2011 16:11:45 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Monday 31 January 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > - Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
> >
> > > A Segunda, 31 de Janeiro de 2011 13:00:50 Marco Martin você escreveu:
> > > > provocation: remove the maximize button by default? ;) (as the
On Monday 31 January 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> - Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
>
> > A Segunda, 31 de Janeiro de 2011 13:00:50 Marco Martin você escreveu:
> > > provocation: remove the maximize button by default? ;) (as the netbook
> > > doesn't have minimize)
> >
> > will talk to mgrsli
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Martin Gräßlin
wrote:
> - Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
>> A Segunda, 31 de Janeiro de 2011 13:00:50 Marco Martin você escreveu:
>> > provocation: remove the maximize button by default? ;) (as the netbook
>> > doesn't have minimize)
>>
>> will talk to mgrslin
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